Do people who commit suicide go to heaven?, For the Catholics and stuff, I guess. Options

[*Steven*]

Well, do people who commit harakiri go to heaven?

[RAWRstephishere]

I think you should go try it.





I have no idea.

[jesusisthebestth...]

1. no you don't go to heaven if you commit suicide...because u cannot ask the Lord for forgivness of the sin...and committing suicide is a sin.

2. for those who say God doesn't exist i have a point for u...if something/someone doesnt existing it doesnt have a name, does it? so if God doesn't exist who created the term "God"? if no gods exist who creted the term "demigods"? come on people, have faith that there is more to the existence than yourself and your trials/tribulations.

[brooklyneast05]

2. for those who say God doesn't exist i have a point for u...if something/someone doesnt existing it doesnt have a name, does it? so if God doesn't exist who created the term "God"? if no gods exist who creted the term "demigods"? come on people, have faith that there is more to the existence than yourself and your trials/tribulations.

sherlock holmes doesn't exist but he still has a name
what does having a name have to do with anything
people make up names all the time

[Joss-eh-lime]

NO, because according to the Bible you can not murder. and if you murder yourself, you have gone against God and don't have a chance to redeem yourself.

But I'm sure depending on the circumstance, like a mentally ill person, God would be fair.

[*The Markster*]

But I'm sure depending on the circumstance, like a mentally ill person, God would be fair.

Including serious, deep depression?

[Joss-eh-lime]

^Yeah, probably
In my humble opinion God is completely fair all the time, so I believe He wouldn't toss someone in hell for having a problem with their brain chemistry.

[Peanups]

Yes agreed.. ^^

thankk you

[Rachel]

1. no you don't go to heaven if you commit suicide...because u cannot ask the Lord for forgivness of the sin...and committing suicide is a sin.

2. for those who say God doesn't exist i have a point for u...if something/someone doesnt existing it doesnt have a name, does it? so if God doesn't exist who created the term "God"? if no gods exist who creted the term "demigods"? come on people, have faith that there is more to the existence than yourself and your trials/tribulations.

Sooo the only reason you believe in Gods existence is because someone threw out the name God?

[jesusisthebestth...]

Sooo the only reason you believe in Gods existence is because someone threw out the name God?

u missed the point...the point was that we all should be selfless enough to accept the possibility/fact that there is more to the world/universe than us.

[brooklyneast05]

u missed the point...the point was that we all should be selfless enough to accept the possibility/fact that there is more to the world/universe than us.

u missed the point of her question
ur ignoring that u first told us that something that doesnt exist can't have a name, and that that is enough reason to believe in something

[jesusisthebestth...]

u missed the point of her question
ur ignoring that u first told us that something that doesnt exist can't have a name, and that that is enough reason to believe in something

that isn't what i said...i said that if any object/person didn't exist it wouldnt have a name, but i never ever said that because it has a name you should believe that it is so...thats ur interpretation based on your background, but i digress. i added it as a side point based on what others said, hence the number 2

[Joss-eh-lime]

^Lets get this straight about this whole name thing

Objects DO NOT need a name to exist; for example an undiscovered herb deep in the jungle. its there, but has no name

Objects that DONT exist, CAN have a name.; for example an imaginary friend. Doesn't exist, but has a name

back to the topic please?

[ClaudelGFX]

Yeah they all go to the Retards Heaven.

[pinacoolada]

Well commiting suicide is killing someone (duh). Therefore, you go against the 10 commandments etc. etc. In other words, you go to hell.

I think it's no different from murder, and it's harder on your loved ones. When someone is murdered by another person, the family that person left has someone to blame and someone to punish, to take their anger and despair out onto. When you commit suicide, it's your fault, therefore your family and loved ones have no one to blame. Sometimes they even blame themselves. It's incredibly selfish, and not to mention stupid.

[Kontroll]

1. no you don't go to heaven if you commit suicide...because u cannot ask the Lord for forgivness of the sin...and committing suicide is a sin.

2. for those who say God doesn't exist i have a point for u...if something/someone doesnt existing it doesnt have a name, does it? so if God doesn't exist who created the term "God"? if no gods exist who creted the term "demigods"? come on people, have faith that there is more to the existence than yourself and your trials/tribulations.

First of all... Like I said, initially, suicide is self murder. The Bible never says anywhere that if you commit suicide, you cannot enter into Heaven. Also, God allows murderers into Heaven, so, why wouldn't He allow some one who murdered their own selves into Heaven?

Secondly, look at how many gods there are. Are all of them real? Do all of them have names? So, you tell me how your statement makes sense.

Well commiting suicide is killing someone (duh). Therefore, you go against the 10 commandments etc. etc. In other words, you go to hell.

I think it's no different from murder, and it's harder on your loved ones. When someone is murdered by another person, the family that person left has someone to blame and someone to punish, to take their anger and despair out onto. When you commit suicide, it's your fault, therefore your family and loved ones have no one to blame. Sometimes they even blame themselves. It's incredibly selfish, and not to mention stupid.

I think that people take things too literally. Yes, if you believe in the Judeo-Christian God, then you should follow the Ten Commandments, but you have to realize we are humans. Humans make mistakes, therefore it is impossible to follow the Ten Commandments 100 percent correctly. If you read the Bible, it states that all sins expect for blasphemy and homosexuality are pretty much all the same to him. So, if you lied to some one, God sees that equivalently to stealing. Yeah, murder is a little more drastic than stealing or lying, but to God, a sin is a sin, except for those two previously mentioned. So, a person who steals has no chance of entering into Heaven, if this is the case.

So, there's a solution. Salvation. Whenever people think of Christianity, they tend to think about Catholicism. From what I heard, and read at least, Catholics believe that you get to Heaven by your works. If this was the case then everyone would be doomed. Even the
"saints". Everyone has problems with sin. Salvation is actually through Jesus Christ. If you believe that He died for your sins and was risen three days later...you technically are saved from damnation. I know it doesn't seem like much, and it takes alot more than that, but it's through faith, and not works that people are saved from going to Hell.

[EmoEyelinerx]

No one really knows.

[Kontroll]

No one really knows.

Exactly. That's the point.

My brother made a great point to me about me losing my faith.

'If we believed in everything our feeling wanted then love would be a magical fairy tale and truth would change by the minute.'

Faith is not just a spiritual thing. Everyone has faith. You trust your brakes will work in your car when you get in it. Right? Same idea.

I don't understand how people can argue with logic.

God sent Jesus to die for our sins so that we could be forgiven. Instead of sacrificing, Christians now call upon the Lord to forgive them of their sins. Murder is a sin. Suicide is self-murder. Therefore a sin. God sees all sins, besides homosexuality and blasphemy, equally. Therefore suicide is forgivable. That's the bottom line. There's no arguing it.

[*Uronacid*]

Exactly. That's the point.

My brother made a great point to me about me losing my faith.

'If we believed in everything our feeling wanted then love would be a magical fairy tale and truth would change by the minute.'

Faith is not just a spiritual thing. Everyone has faith. You trust your brakes will work in your car when you get in it. Right? Same idea.

I don't understand how people can argue with logic.

God sent Jesus to die for our sins so that we could be forgiven. Instead of sacrificing, Christians now call upon the Lord to forgive them of their sins. Murder is a sin. Suicide is self-murder. Therefore a sin. God sees all sins, besides homosexuality and blasphemy, equally. Therefore suicide is forgivable. That's the bottom line. There's no arguing it.

Agreed, that's why I haven't been arguing...

It's pointless. This can only go one way. It's unfortunate for those that believe in the Catholic religion and have lost a loved one to suicide, but as much as they might want to see a way around it; they can't; it's futile to argue; the answer is in black and white.

[bat19]

^ I disagree

It is mentioned many times in the bible that suicide is a sin and you will go to hell for it. Think of your body as a temple, a temple for the living god. Who are you to desecrate, mutilate, or destroy that temple? God does not want those who couldnt pass his test, the test of life. Whoever commits this mortal sin will feel the pain from the lake of fire, and hopefully will fall to the very center of Hell, where all are worthy of the suffering they will feel. The same goes for those who cut themselves and mutilate their bodies with piercings and tattoos(Jake). Your body is a temple, treat it accordingly.

In order to be accepted into heaven, your soul needs to be cleansed of all sin. I live my life the best I can without sin, but occasionally I slip as we all do. When this happens, I repent immediately and punish myself till God tells me I am pure again. You cannot be accepted into paradise if you have sin on your soul. Suicide is a sin, and if you are succesful, the last sin you will ever do. It is alone in being the only sin for which you can never be forgiven. You can be forgiven of murder, but not suicide.

[itsARIE]

2. for those who say God doesn't exist i have a point for u...if something/someone doesnt existing it doesnt have a name, does it? so if God doesn't exist who created the term "God"? if no gods exist who creted the term "demigods"? come on people, have faith that there is more to the existence than yourself and your trials/tribulations.

Amen Brother!!!!

[Kontroll]

^ I disagree

It is mentioned many times in the bible that suicide is a sin and you will go to hell for it. Think of your body as a temple, a temple for the living god. Who are you to desecrate, mutilate, or destroy that temple? God does not want those who couldnt pass his test, the test of life. Whoever commits this mortal sin will feel the pain from the lake of fire, and hopefully will fall to the very center of Hell, where all are worthy of the suffering they will feel. The same goes for those who cut themselves and mutilate their bodies with piercings and tattoos(Jake). Your body is a temple, treat it accordingly.

In order to be accepted into heaven, your soul needs to be cleansed of all sin. I live my life the best I can without sin, but occasionally I slip as we all do. When this happens, I repent immediately and punish myself till God tells me I am pure again. You cannot be accepted into paradise if you have sin on your soul. Suicide is a sin, and if you are succesful, the last sin you will ever do. It is alone in being the only sin for which you can never be forgiven. You can be forgiven of murder, but not suicide.

Then what about murderers? They desicrated a temple of God at some point. Should they not be allowed into Heaven?

[Peanups]

^ Yes, but if you murder someone, you are still ALIVE and have a chance to ask God for forgiveness.

If you kill yourself, you don't have time to ask for forgiveness after you commit the sin because you ARE DEAD.

[lilsnoopy]

God is suppose to be forgiving, a forgiving god, who allowed his son to die for the sake of others.
If this is true, why would I have to live in fear of his anger and go to hell, because I couldnt handle life and wanted to live in a better place?
God is a supreme being. Supreme beings should understand how fragile their creations are, and by being a forgiving god, understand and accept them.
Heaven is an ideal place, were if your good enough your allowed to visit
Hell is a scare tactic so man will live by someone else's rules

Yet, what I find so strange though, is the fact that a large amount of Christains dont even follow the Bible 100% anymore. They perform sins, and still beleive they are going to heaven just because they are good people, and also because they are a christain. This said, even if a person kills themselves, they still believe they are going to heaven, even if they performed a sin.

[Kontroll]

^ Yes, but if you murder someone, you are still ALIVE and have a chance to ask God for forgiveness.

If you kill yourself, you don't have time to ask for forgiveness after you commit the sin because you ARE DEAD.

Like the person said above me...God is forgiving. The thing is that asking forgiveness is not what gets you into Heaven. What gets you into Heaven is having a relationship with Jesus. If, by the Protestant worldview, you are saved, then you can never lose your salvation. Therefore, no matter what you do, you are always saved. Always a Christian. It's up to the person whether they want to follow the religion 100%. Don't blame the religion for that, because it happens in every religion. People are naturally bad, and will sin. It's human nature.

That's why people who commit suicide go to Heaven.