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[*Elba*]

I'm not friends with Thomas and I give him a hard time sometimes, but I think that he should still be given a chance to apply even after he withdrew. It's not like he wanted to be back in AFTER the deadline--it was still before the deadline. The main reason he withdrew was because many of us were giving him such a hard time.

So, I disagree with the three of you.

[DarkImpressions]

^That was really nice.

[anime-essence]

I'm not saying I dislike Thomas because I don't. I remember when I first registered he was very helpful and really nice. I just would have liked to see him stick it out and stayed instead of withdrawing and getting put back. He has more potential and a greater chance than a lot of people who applied including me. That's a fact.

[*Elba*]

I'm not saying I dislike Thomas because I don't. I remember when I first registered he was very helpful and really nice. I just would have liked to see him stick it out and stayed instead of withdrawing and getting put back. He has more potential and a greater chance than a lot of people who applied including me. That's a fact.

So because he withdrew his application, you think it's unfair for him to have it put back in even though he was still within the deadline?

And your ice cream scenario doesn't compare to this situation.

[*Insurmountable*]

I have to agree with Elba completely on the Thomas issue. Both posts.

I personally don't see a problem, you know yea he may have withdrawed his application but I mean people were giving him a completely hard time. After he thought about it and stuff he really did see that he should have stuck it out and he isn't proud for withdrawing in the first place. He did although come back in time and not after the deadline, and since it was before the deadline is why i don't see any problem with it.

I personally don't think it should ruin his chances of possibly getting on staff either, I think he should have the same chance as everyone else.

[anime-essence]

I never said I didn't want him to get back in. I'm glad he was put back. I'm just saying he shouldn't have made a hasty decision in wanting to withdraw and actually doing it. I never even mentioned the deadline issue.

[*Elba*]

You said you completely agreed with what Frankie said--which was basically that he thought it was unfair. And your comparison with the ice cream story would make sense if he wanted to be put back in after the deadline.

[*Spencer*]

i missed the ice cream story?!

anyway, back on the topic of thomas. i realize it was within the deadline, but he had withdrawn his application which made it seem to me that he couldn't handle it and that's why i don't think him putting an application back in makes him anymore likely.

[anime-essence]

Thanks. I did say completely and now I don't feel like that anymore. If I were in his position I probably would have been thinking the same. I don't feel that way anymore mainly because I've read other views now and realize I shouldn't have jumped to conclusions. Yea, the scenario seems a bit ridiculous when I think about what I was trying to compare it to.

[*Elba*]

i missed the ice cream story?!

anyway, back on the topic of thomas. i realize it was within the deadline, but he had withdrawn his application which made it seem to me that he couldn't handle it and that's why i don't think him putting an application back in makes him anymore likely.

Like he couldn't handle what?

[*Spencer*]

being on staff. if he was taunted enough to actually go through with withdrawing, why should he be expected to make important decisions if he questioned himself in the first place?

[*Elba*]

^ Okay, that makes sense. I can see why you would think that.

[anime-essence]

^That's what I was trying to say, but I guess I get all convoluted and a loss for words. I agree with Spencer, especially about second-guessing yourself(Thomas) or making hasty decisions.

[anime-essence]

I really had no idea that so many people didn't want you to become a moderator. Seriously, it never even crossed my mind until I saw your post about about withdrawing about a day after you posted it. I was really shocked because you have been/could be a very good one. You never thought about ignoring everyone, not caring what they thought?

[*Steven*]

Well it wasn't 'hasty' at all... I thought about it for at least 3 days... I thought it over after I did it, and realized that I really don't have to listen to the posts that Spencer and company post about me. They don't contribute to how I actually would make out being a moderator. Their business is in the community forums. I'd be in the resource center forums. Of course there are still people on that side that can be disgruntled and I would be forced with the same people. But nobody would compare to the treatment that Spencer and company has been posting about me for the past 2 weeks. It's completely ridiculous...

After I pulled out, I was actually happy that I did... I was pretty stress free, I didn't have to worry about whether I was in or not. But after talking to a few people... I felt like I had made the wrong decsion. I shouldn't have let the people's words get to me. I know perfectly well how to handle scenarios where I would be confronted. That isn't a problem... But your (spencer) outspokeness I feel is just targeted to me because you don't like me... Fine, whatever.

I didn't think that it should have been a problem to want to be put back in after I withdrew... It wouldn't make any sense to say that it would be unfair if I was picked over other applicants because I DID decide that I wanted to be put back in... What's the problem with that...? I really don't know.

Is second-guessing yourself a problem becuase I said that I wanted to be on staff, then said I didn't becuause people pushed me that far to say it, then saying I wanted to be put back in the competition? If so, that's a horrible look at it... I don't know how that would apply to being a moderator...

Making important descisions is different than questioning myself... You know that right?

I agree for the most part with what you said, but regarding the last part:
Questioning yourself could have everything to do with the position. Take for example, military officers (I know this is an online forum). You need to make decisions and stand by them so long as you see it as the correct thing to do. Letting people's words change your mind could be viewed as a big-time weakness in a leadership position.

[*Steven*]

I don't see an issue if it's regarding design staff.

[*Spencer*]

haha, i'm not a posse leader, nor was i the contributing factor to the "two weeks" of torment; we'd even said we were joking around. if it had happened for 2 weeks, it would have still been going on. it went on for like a couple of days, at most. we don't need to over exaggerate this, thomas.

as far as questioning yourself and making important decisions being two seperate things, i'd have to disagree. how are you expected to make important decisions yourself? wouldn't you have to question yourself when making it? i can understand how they're different, but in this case, they go hand and hand.

don't think of this as a personal vendetta because it's far from that. like i said, i was stating why you shouldn't be handed a position, not saying "don't hire thomas because we hate each other and if he gets on staff, createblog will fall apart". i simply said why, but it was nothing personal. honestly, i would have said it about anyone.

[*Steven*]

But spencer, he's not applying for people staff. He's applying for design staff, which doesn't really (and correct me if I'm wrong) as much interaction with people rather knowing what you're doing regarding coding and designing etc.

[*Insurmountable*]

^Yea, you're right. Design staff doesn't have that much interaction with people as much as people staff does. Most of the time we really don't carry on conversations with the people were helping. You simply tell them how to fix their problem and they may reply back with a thanks and thats all xD

[*Spencer*]

But spencer, he's not applying for people staff. He's applying for design staff, which doesn't really (and correct me if I'm wrong) as much interaction with people rather knowing what you're doing regarding coding and designing etc.

it's still a pretty big responsibility, that's why they don't just hand it over to anyone. i don't really think it matters about interaction; he let whatever get under his skin, which is what made me question if he's right for it.

[*ersatz*]

Hmmm...I'm very curious as to what the reactions will be. *cackles*

[*Steven*]

But in my eyes design staff is like the group of scientists a company hires to deal with stuff regarding science etc, not customer relations. People staff are the charismatic people people. The scientists just have to be good at what they do and know what they do, while the public affairs people have to be good with people.

[*Elba*]

Stick up his ass? Well, he'll fit in nicely with some of the current mods.

[*Insurmountable*]

sorry had to do it.

I do agree with what Suzzette said. People don't want help from people that may come off better than them or may make the person that needs help feel stupid for asking questions..I've seen it happen. >_<

[*Steven*]

While I agree with you to a certain extent, I don't think that they have to be nearly as personable as people staff. If they're applying for design staff they are applying for a job that deals with the resource center and helping people. I would hope they know that if they are hired and they know what the job entails.