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Affirmative Action, go away!
*Steven*
post Jul 31 2007, 10:35 AM
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Affirmative was created way back when to help blacks get back on their feet etc etc. Now it seems a lot of races use it as a crutch, assuming that because they're a minority that they'll get preferential treatment and that if they don't then it's racism. It was supposed to have just faded away as things became more and more equal, but lo and behold, it's still here.

Anyone think it should stay? What are your reasons?
 
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BOOGERSHAHA
post Jul 31 2007, 10:37 AM
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post Jul 31 2007, 11:17 AM
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I am completely against it. We're always talking about treating everyone equally, well affirmative action is very much the opposite of it. I would never want to get hired because of my skin color rather my qualification.
Affirmative action stir up too much trouble. Maybe back in the day, it was acceptable but man, it's 2007. This ought to have changed. This way of helping Black people has been misused and over used.

I am very much against.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 02:20 PM
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I'm against it. The color of someone's skin should never be a deciding factor for a job or college. Or for scholarships.

A black person is no more deserving than a white person of the same status.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jul 31 2007, 02:20 PM) *
I'm against it. The color of someone's skin should never be a deciding factor for a job or college. Or for scholarships.

A black person is no more deserving than a white person of the same status.


it's not all skin colour either though is it, gender fits into affirmative action

i don't think it's needed anymore, and i don't want to be hired because im black, i want it to be because i'm right for the job. at one point i think it was needed for minorities and women to have a chance

 
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post Jul 31 2007, 02:38 PM
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^Haha I was waiting for you to reply to this one.

It wasn't aimed so much @ women as it was @ minorities.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 02:38 PM
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^ Like I said, in those days. Now, it's just getting exaggerated, well, from what I see in the media and online. <== Brooklyn
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(Steven @ Jul 31 2007, 02:38 PM) *
^Haha I was waiting for you to reply to this one.

It wasn't aimed so much @ women as it was @ minorities.



yea i was going to ask if we were talking about minorities specifically or just in general

i gotcha now

 
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post Jul 31 2007, 03:29 PM
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Against. All men are created equal. I think that's all that needs to be said.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 03:32 PM
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Yeah but not all were treated equal. You can tell people they were created equal all you want but that's not going to stop people from being power hungry and having a system of government in which people are not equal in place.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 03:40 PM
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Well, they're supposed to be. In America, we pride ourselves in liberty, freedom and equality. Having affirmative action goes against everything we stand for. Now instead of putting blacks below everyone else, we're putting them above everyone else.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 03:42 PM
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I'm not saying I agree w/ affirmative action. I'm just saying that it's pretty set in a lot of humans to think themselves superior or inferior to individuals, making them not equal by any means.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 03:43 PM
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Yeah. But actually ... in research, blacks have had the lowest IQ of all races. Just thought I'd point that out.

Whoops, bad info sorry.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 03:44 PM
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Those research things are highly biased or inaccurate, as with any poll like that.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 03:48 PM
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post Jul 31 2007, 03:49 PM
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Wow Katt, please don't tell me that you actually believe that.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 03:51 PM
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Oh whoops, I just found out that they're talking about Africans that live in subsaharan Africa, and have no formal education, so my bad. pinch.gif
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 03:52 PM
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Moving on. We were talking about affirmative action and it'll be lovely if we actually talked about that.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 31 2007, 03:52 PM) *
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Moving on. We were talking about affirmative action and it'll be lovely if we actually talked about that.



agreed
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 04:29 PM
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i was almost positive it was gone!

well, whether its here or not, i want it.
 
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i was almost positive it was gone!

well, whether its here or not, i want it.


wanna explain why u want it?
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 06:10 PM
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^ Probably because she's a minority? mellow.gif
 
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QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jul 31 2007, 06:10 PM) *
^ Probably because she's a minority? mellow.gif



so am i and i'm not for it
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 06:31 PM
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^ That's true, but she said that she "wants it"... so I'm assuming that's because she's a minority and about to enter college. Just an assumption.
 
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post Aug 1 2007, 04:30 AM
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^ You shouldn't assume for others whether you're right or not. It's a debate forum, she's supposed to explain and not give a one sentence opinion and not back it up.
 

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