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*Sandraaa*
post Jul 30 2007, 08:22 AM
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WTF? Kathleen has turned evil. fallen.gif
 
sadolakced acid
post Jul 30 2007, 12:00 PM
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Do we see a pattern?

when old mods come back, they turn "evil".

anyways;

mods that have powers suspended should step down. It's a breach of the trust, have the decency and vacate the position.
 
*Elba*
post Jul 30 2007, 12:04 PM
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Looks like they don't have that decency.
 
*Programmer*
post Jul 30 2007, 12:07 PM
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Hmmm. Interesting how moderators need another moderator to keep them in line. It reminds me about life a little bit. There are leaders and followers. Those who follow tend to get distracted and go off the path. While the leader maintains focused and on point...Think that pretty much sums up the situation that even brought about this topic.
 
*tripvertigo*
post Jul 30 2007, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(robbotic @ Jul 30 2007, 10:05 AM) *
If the admins and heads still think I need to get demoted, then god damn, go right ahead. They've had a while to do so.

I did step down.
They then told me that they wanted me back.
Then they said that after a week if I still wanted to be off staff team then I can stay off.


That's admirable. I applaud you.
 
*tripvertigo*
post Jul 30 2007, 12:17 PM
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I'm being sincere.
 
*Elba*
post Jul 30 2007, 12:17 PM
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*SayBloodyMary*
post Jul 30 2007, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 30 2007, 06:00 PM) *
mods that have powers suspended should step down. It's a breach of the trust, have the decency and vacate the position.

That's fine. But don't suggest a non-binding convention and then bitch when people choose not to abide by it. That has nothing to do with actively punishing them.

If you want to automatically fire someone rather than ever suspend them, say that.
 
sadolakced acid
post Jul 30 2007, 08:53 PM
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well, i'd rather have that, but apparently people staff aren't replacable so the admin would never do that.

A tradition is the next best thing.

 
*tripvertigo*
post Jul 30 2007, 09:07 PM
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I do think that a permanent dismissal from the staff IS a bit harsh, depending on the degree of offense you've committed. However I do not think that it should be so easy to have your mod status reinstated after a suspension.

I think that there should be a 1-2 month "trial" period that's basically like community service. Give the mod LIMITED abilities(meaning, only ones that have to do with actually moderating the forum: queue moderation, closing and merging threads, etc.) They would definitely not be able to warn anyone. They do not participate in backstage discussion. No staff "perks." (Like larger inbox, etc.)

Design staff offenders should be required to submit a minimum of 10 layouts.

People staff... I dunno, have them create topics or contests or something useful to the community. Maybe they can contribute scripts if they are able to.

After a month's time their reinstatement should be revisited by the admins/headstaff/mentors. If their behavior has changed to one that is acceptable of a moderator, then fine, repromote them to full mod.


If they are put back on staff and commit another offense afterwards (no matter how far away in time) they should be immediatley demoted permanently.
 
*Elba*
post Jul 30 2007, 09:09 PM
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Just kick Diana off already. Seriously.
 
*ersatz*
post Jul 30 2007, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(tripvertigo @ Jul 30 2007, 09:07 PM) *
I do think that a permanent dismissal from the staff IS a bit harsh, depending on the degree of offense you've committed. However I do not think that it should be so easy to have your mod status reinstated after a suspension.

I think that there should be a 1-2 month "trial" period that's basically like community service. Give the mod LIMITED abilities(meaning, only ones that have to do with actually moderating the forum: queue moderation, closing and merging threads, etc.) They would definitely not be able to warn anyone. They do not participate in backstage discussion. No staff "perks." (Like larger inbox, etc.)

Design staff offenders should be required to submit a minimum of 10 layouts.

People staff... I dunno, have them create topics or contests or something useful to the community. Maybe they can contribute scripts if they are able to.

After a month's time their reinstatement should be revisited by the admins/headstaff/mentors. If their behavior has changed to one that is acceptable of a moderator, then fine, repromote them to full mod.
If they are put back on staff and commit another offense afterwards (no matter how far away in time) they should be immediatley demoted permanently.


That actually sounds great. (Although 10 layouts might be a bit much; but that's just a detail, an idea can be tweaked.)
 
arghrawr
post Jul 30 2007, 11:08 PM
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Okay, so I've spent a good bit of my time reading this and I have to say I agree with trish/christina (what do people call you now??). It's too easy to just give mod status back to the offender. A mod has more responsibilities. If they've done something irresponsible, trust should be earned back before they can enjoy whatever perks there are that come along with being a mod. One month of a trial period may be too short though. And if the offense was really serious, perhaps all mod privileges should be taken away. They can go a period of time as a regular member/official member if the power of being a mod got to their head. I think the plan sounds reasonable, and it should be considered. I still don't see what someone on People Staff could do, though.
 
*Spencer*
post Jul 30 2007, 11:18 PM
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i like the idea of having a trial period to earn back your trust, but i think it could also be beneficial if someone is taken off staff to be demodded for a period of time, or even have it where they have to wait until the next hiring session to get another chance.
 
*ersatz*
post Jul 30 2007, 11:24 PM
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Well, hiring sessions aren't always at the same amount of time...you know? One person would have to wait like a year and another would only have to wait a couple of months.
 
*Spencer*
post Jul 30 2007, 11:26 PM
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then it's more of a reason to not get demodded and have to gain back your trust.
 
*Spencer*
post Jul 30 2007, 11:46 PM
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and i thought we were discussing possibilities.
 
*kryogenix*
post Jul 31 2007, 01:31 AM
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QUOTE(ersatz @ Jul 31 2007, 12:24 AM) *
Well, hiring sessions aren't always at the same amount of time...you know? One person would have to wait like a year and another would only have to wait a couple of months.


Sometimes, there isn't even a hiring session and people are hired on a whim as a result of an April Fool's joke.
 
*ersatz*
post Jul 31 2007, 08:07 AM
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That wasn't on a whim; it was discussed for about a month beforehand.
 
*Kathleen*
post Jul 31 2007, 09:44 AM
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Again -- another example of how much more "clique-ish" the moderators are now: April Fool's Day. Let's all pull a prank that the members aren't in on since they're not on staff! Yeah!
 
*Steven*
post Jul 31 2007, 09:47 AM
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A sense of humor isn't a bad thing
 
*Kathleen*
post Jul 31 2007, 10:04 AM
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We still had fun with members without excluding them in our jest.
 
*Steven*
post Jul 31 2007, 10:09 AM
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That's nice and all, but I don't see the big deal over an April Fool's joke. Did it hurt anyone in the long run?
Staff shouldn't have to only be allowed to have fun including members. So they had a joke and used backstage or w/e as the venue to discuss it, what's the big deal?
 
*kryogenix*
post Jul 31 2007, 10:48 AM
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How about the fact that someone was hired as a result of the joke?
 
*Steven*
post Jul 31 2007, 10:50 AM
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Were they qualified?
 
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