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Is Life Drawing Cheating?, Is participating in a life drawing class cheating?
GirlInAus
post Jul 31 2007, 08:52 AM
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So I have a problem, I've been with my boyfriend for nearly a year now and though we love eachother very much we can never agree on a thing and we have such different morals.

I am studying Photography and as a part of my course I have to undertake a life drawing class. Now surprise surprise, my boyfriend's not too happy.. infact it's worse then that.. he's not happy at all. He considers the fact that I've seen someone else naked is cheating. However I don't agree in the circumstances.. it is an appreciation for the human body of course and it's in a class of like 40 people and there's no feeling's involved whatsoever.. so I'm having a hard time trying to make him see things the way I do.

So what do you think.. Is participating in a life drawing class cheating?
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 08:59 AM
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Hell no. No emotional attachment. No physical attachment. No emotional interaction. No physical interaction other than looking. Not cheating.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE(Steven @ Jul 31 2007, 11:59 PM) *
Hell no. No emotional attachment. No physical attachment. No emotional interaction. No physical interaction other than looking. Not cheating.


Yeah that's how I feel but what can I do? I mean it's his views that I fully respect but I don't understand :S
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:13 AM
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Ask him to explain why it's cheating.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:14 AM
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No of course not. If you accidentily walked in on someone while they were naked, would he consider that cheating too?
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(Steven @ Aug 1 2007, 12:13 AM) *
Ask him to explain why it's cheating.


Well his explanation is that he believes the fact that I've seen someone else naked means that I've been unfaithful. He believes that the fact that everyone taking those classes is being unfaitful?
And why? Because he's a traditionalist and he believes that the body is sacred and beautiful and that you should reserve your eyes for only one person.. as with everything else which is fair enough.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(sourire @ Aug 1 2007, 12:14 AM) *
No of course not. If you accidentily walked in on someone while they were naked, would he consider that cheating too?


No but it's the fact that I did it intentionally. Not behind his back mind you.. he knew it was coming.. but he thinks that I had a choice and I didn't have to take the class.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:20 AM
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maybe you should tell him lighten up or dump him..
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:22 AM
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Well is that class worth jeopardizing your relationship? Do you have to take that class?
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:24 AM
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You have to get him to look at it as just another class and try to get him to relax. Has he given you an ultimatum or something?
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(stormbringer @ Aug 1 2007, 12:20 AM) *
maybe you should tell him lighten up or dump him..


Oh no I couldn't do that I love him to death.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(Steven @ Aug 1 2007, 12:22 AM) *
Well is that class worth jeopardizing your relationship? Do you have to take that class?


Yes it's a requirement to pass my course.
Well I'm sure he'll get over it.. I'm just curious as to other people's thoughts on the topic.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(sourire @ Aug 1 2007, 12:24 AM) *
You have to get him to look at it as just another class and try to get him to relax. Has he given you an ultimatum or something?


Ultimatum? Sorry I'm not sure what that is.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:28 AM
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Ultimatum = Do "this" or else

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Drop out of that class or I'll break up with you.

Also, try to respond to all points in one post. You can hit the + sign by quote on each one then hit Add Reply and itll put all quotes in one thing for you.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(Steven @ Aug 1 2007, 12:28 AM) *
Ultimatum = Do "this" or else

i.e.

Drop out of that class or I'll break up with you.

Also, try to respond to all points in one post. You can hit the + sign by quote on each one then hit Add Reply and itll put all quotes in one thing for you.


You mean like this? Sorry I'm new so I'm not sure.

As for the Ultimatum, no he hasn't done that.. hes just really upset.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:35 AM
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i wouldnt really know since i've never been in love or in a relationship..yeah........umm right. whistling.gif
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:40 AM
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i wouldn't consider that cheating. it's for a class, with many people sitting right next to you. i understand his point of view but since its a requirement for your major (i guess?) then why can he not understand that?
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:41 AM
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Good thing is he hasn't made you choose yet. You just need to calm him down a bit. What have you said to try and reason with him? And what has he said in response?
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(sourire @ Aug 1 2007, 12:41 AM) *
Good thing is he hasn't made you choose yet. You just need to calm him down a bit. What have you said to try and reason with him? And what has he said in response?


I don't think he would ever choose really. But it's just frustrating because our morals don't exactly fit..they're getting there but not fully there yet.

I've tried to tell him how I feel and that.. like how it's just a class and I tried not to look and the drawings are just simple, not detailed pieces and that but he still is hurt by it. He hasn't really said much.. but that's just it.. he hasn't really said much. I mean he did say that I had a choice and I didn't have to do it (which I did) but then he meantioned that I didn't ask to get out of it (true, but I'm an artsy person and I do enjoy this sort of thing really.. I don't know if I want to be excluded), he basically just meantions that he wouldn't have done the same thing to me.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:50 AM
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Wait so is the class done with? Are you taking it this upcoming semester or what?
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(Steven @ Aug 1 2007, 12:50 AM) *
Wait so is the class done with? Are you taking it this upcoming semester or what?


Yes the class is done with. However that's non the end of it.. the classes go for 6 weeks and so far I've only done two of them.. so it's an ongoing issue.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 10:02 AM
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He can't support you as you pursue your interests?
There is only one thing left to do now.
Knock him out, pray he gets a concussion, and forgets all about this.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 10:11 AM
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Hahah.. couldn't do that if I wanted to :)
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 10:16 AM
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I suppose you could try talking, but using a different tactic like making him feel guilty, but usually I'm a straight shooter.
Or you could drop the class to make him happy, though I don't see why you should give up something you love just because your boyfriend is a bit irked about your decision.
 
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post Jul 31 2007, 10:17 AM
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I wouldn't try a guilt trip. I can't stand those, they only get me irritated.
 

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