understand non hip hop fans .. please understand!! Options

[xFaith]

Sure some hiphoppers make good music and have suffered. I respect that, it's just not my music.

But I HATE commercial hiphop with those big guys having lots of naked girls and rapping about sex and money and violence. And mostly i hate the way that they make young boys and girls look up to them and act like they do in the videos x_X

[dispn0ygonekrazy]

its reality you may not like but it happens, some people describe hip hop as just vulgar music with sex, violence, drugs etc. for those that like rock some people complain to it as just bunch of noise, and full of emo people. it's the same concept if you think about it, theres always going to be something that someone will complain about a genre of music, but music is music theres many ways to make music, and if all music were the same dont you think it'd be boring? thats why many genres exist, hip hop is just also a genre of music where a lot diverse people enjoy, especially how it's getting famous not in america but also through out many other countries, don't think of hip-hop as just vulgar music that you see on TV, and we wont think of rock/punk as full of emo people that hate the world.

[brooklyneast05]

don't think of hip-hop as just vulgar music that you see on TV, and we wont think of rock/punk as full of emo people that hate the world.

agreed 100%

also
i think the problem with this thread is we all have a diff opinion of what hip hop is. to me hip hop is a completely different genre than the music on the radio dealing with sex, money, ect. they aren't even similar in my opinion, the beats, the lyrics, the subject matter is completely different.

[*Sandraaa*]

i honestly wish people would stop f**king swearing at people in french like its supposed to be impressive or something. some people actually speak the language on a daily basis, so lets not abuse the language.

same thing goes for japanese.

You're honestly getting annoying. I could care less if you spoke my language. Impressive? Fcuk man, shut the hell up. Who do you think I'm trying to impress? You? Bwahahaha ... dude, wtf?

I speak the language ON A DAILY BASIS! I speak it more than ENGLISH! I am French speaking so if you don't understand it, USE A TRANSLATOR or ask me.

Stop trying to be a bitch, it makes you seem foolish.

Sale gamine de merde qui essaie de faire la fille. Va t'assoeir, mongole.

Translate that.

i didnt say she didnt. i said stop swearing in languages you know half the people on this forum dont understand. that doesnt make you any more impressive.

That's not what you said or meant. Cut the bull. I'll insult you in French if I want to, if it bothers you that much? Well ... shit happens.

[dispn0ygonekrazy]

^Calm yo ass down. this thread is to explain those who don't understand hip hop not about to start a fight in a thread if you were offended by what she said PM her rather than bringin it out here.

[*Sandraaa*]

^ I don't like PMing people I highly dislike but I'm really sorry. I didn't mean to ruin your thread. I'll edit it ASAP. Once again, I apologize.

[1angel3]

I am sorry but I have to get off topic. Can some of y'all please stop calling each other names because y'all don't agree with each other. I'm sick of it, that shows how low you are. Ok peace out.

[DarkImpressions]

Don't get Hip-Hop and Gangsta Rap confused
Hey Jason--if they don't like it, chuck up the deuce

Don't try to force it down their throats...let people have their own opinion

I Agree!

[*tripvertigo*]

Ok sorry to add fuel to the fire here but what else would you get from my first sentence alone? I dont care if you speak it on a daily basis. I DONT even speak it on a daily basis even if my parents are speaking it ot me. Why? Because I'm in america. This is an American forum where there are a majority of American people who dont f**king speak french. You think you're insults are more effective in french because people dont understand what the f**k you're saying? It makes you even more pathetic because it seems like you already know your blows wouldnt quite cut it if people actually understood you, so you have to type it out in french just to confuse people.

And that's just an insult to French as a language alltogether. Using it to get a one-up on some unsuspecting American... that's just foul.

[*brownsugar*]

User, tripvertigo: stop member bashing. You already have a verbal warning. Sandra, already apologized. Jeez.

[*Sandraaa*]

Ok sorry to add fuel to the fire here but what else would you get from my first sentence alone? I dont care if you speak it on a daily basis. I DONT even speak it on a daily basis even if my parents are speaking it ot me. Why? Because I'm in america. This is an American forum where there are a majority of American people who dont f**king speak french. You think you're insults are more effective in french because people dont understand what the f**k you're saying? It makes you even more pathetic because it seems like you already know your blows wouldnt quite cut it if people actually understood you, so you have to type it out in french just to confuse people.

And that's just an insult to French as a language alltogether. Using it to get a one-up on some unsuspecting American... that's just foul.

I get it. You're a natural retard. 'This is an American forum'? Says who? Where is it written that it is American? Quit trying your boost-my-self esteem crap, it's getting old. I will speak French BECAUSE I WANT TO. I do not give a crap's ass who get's offended. Wait ... isn't that your logic for everything? Or maybe I'm confusing you with someone else.
Tripvirtigo, JE T'ENMMERDE! Use a fcuking translator. Quit trying to play the 'boss' when you're nothing but shit. Quit trying to tell people what to do. I can see you're bored so why not try posting some feedbacks in the feedback forum? Why not attack the mods? You're pretty good at that.

This topic is about freaking hip hop and not about the French language. Stop bringing up unnecessary fights just because you feel the 'need'. Go make a layout, go make graphics, go do something worth while. Boring little infant.

Just for your fcuking general information, French is my way of life. I mix French when speaking English, I insult more in French. It is nothing deliberate, that's the way I FREAKING AM. Although, I could care less about your opinion. From now on, I will insult you in French, report me, make a topic about this ... no effect whatsoever.

You're really brave you know, coming back and all. Take a break to make up another mind blowing story, I'm getting bored of your childish acts.

[*brownsugar*]

Sandra this is your verbal warning for member bashing and off-topic discussion when asked to stop.

[*Sandraaa*]

Again I apologize to everyone but Tripvirtigo is just too much of a bitch to ignore.

[*tripvertigo*]

User, tripvertigo: stop member bashing. You already have a verbal warning. Sandra, already apologized. Jeez.

Excuse me didnt you RESCIND that previous verbal warning? kthx.

[*brownsugar*]

No, I did not. That was your second verbal warning--and not the one I'm talking about. You replied to it, as well.

Dear tripvertigo,

This is your verbal warning. You have received this warning for continued off-topic discussion. Please read over the community guidelines and follow them. Don't worry, this warning is only a verbal one, and does not affect your ability to post. If you have any questions about this warning or any of the rules, feel free to PM me or another moderator.

brownsugar

hm okay, understandable i guess. i read this after i posted something kind of rude like 5 minutes ago, but i'll be good now.

Have a nice day!

[*tripvertigo*]

Didnt you say you would disregard it since its 10 days old?

[steezahh]

Excuse me, was you saying something? Ha ha ,you can't tell me nothing.
Billboards disagrees with you.

2 Fergie - Big Girls Don't Cry ( and she does hip hop sometimes.)
3 Rihanna and Jay-Z -Umbrella
4 Timbaland and Keri Hilson - The Way I Are
5 Shop Boyz - Party Like A Rockstar
7 Akon - Sorry, Blame It On Me
8 Hurricane Chris - A Bay Bay
9 T-Pain and Yung Joc - Buy U A Drank
10 T-Pain and Akon - Bartender
11 Fabolous and Ne-Yo - Make Me Better
12 Plies and T-Pain - Shawty
13 T.I. - Big Things Poppin' (do It)
Akon is like the modern day Nate Dogg. Dang where is Kanye though? HE had two good singles, both slept on.

are you kidding me? you really think party like a rockstar is hiphop? i dont think any of those song's can be called hiphop. AT ALL. simply because its all hip-pop. feel? it's all that mainstream ish that you can play in the clubs. but its garbage.
idk what else to say to defend myself, im kinda out of it. but mainstream, isnt hiphop. not one bit. the closest person on there, i would say, would be timbaland.
sorry if you disagree.

HIPHOP AIN'T DEAD, IT'S UNDERGROUND.
f**k the mainstream bullshit !

much agreed.

gawd, what has come to this world, where people are getting there music twisted.
and that show on mtv the TOP MC?! wtf. common was number 9 or something? WOW. 50 cent beat him?! no, its not about how many albums you sell and how you dress and your swagger. that's all they looked upon which was foolish.

[YaGurlSukedMe2SL...]

are you kidding me? you really think party like a rockstar is hiphop?

Dang, I like that song too.

[1angel3]

are you kidding me? you really think party like a rockstar is hiphop? i dont think any of those song's can be called hiphop. AT ALL. simply because its all hip-pop. feel? it's all that mainstream ish that you can play in the clubs. but its garbage.
idk what else to say to defend myself, im kinda out of it. but mainstream, isnt hiphop. not one bit. the closest person on there, i would say, would be timbaland.
sorry if you disagree.
much agreed.

gawd, what has come to this world, where people are getting there music twisted.
and that show on mtv the TOP MC?! wtf. common was number 9 or something? WOW. 50 cent beat him?! no, its not about how many albums you sell and how you dress and your swagger. that's all they looked upon which was foolish.

I agree with the mtv thing and vh1 do it too. All they look at is how much they have and the grills in their mouth. vh1 sit there and bragg about these so-called hip hop artist on how much money they have. I don't watch that stuff. I see it like this I WANT SOME MONEY TOO. I don't care how much money they have.

[*Michelle*]

It is my personal opinion that most hip-hop I hear today makes my ears and mind feel like they're about to permanently shut. That is the reason I do not like to listen to it. It is not my OR my ears OR my mind's preference. :]

[TRIBE]

gawd, what has come to this world, where people are getting there music twisted.
and that show on mtv the TOP MC?! wtf. common was number 9 or something? WOW. 50 cent beat him?! no, its not about how many albums you sell and how you dress and your swagger. that's all they looked upon which was foolish.

Man I was mad when I saw that and they put Lil Wayne as #1? WTF . MTV is bullshit.

[HoodNigga]

are you kidding me? you really think party like a rockstar is hiphop? i dont think any of those song's can be called hiphop. AT ALL. simply because its all hip-pop. feel? it's all that mainstream ish that you can play in the clubs. but its garbage.
idk what else to say to defend myself, im kinda out of it. but mainstream, isnt hiphop. not one bit. the closest person on there, i would say, would be timbaland.
sorry if you disagree.
much agreed.

gawd, what has come to this world, where people are getting there music twisted.
and that show on mtv the TOP MC?! wtf. common was number 9 or something? WOW. 50 cent beat him?! no, its not about how many albums you sell and how you dress and your swagger. that's all they looked upon which was foolish.

Haha Paulina are you trying to style on me?

I'm not going to sit here and lie. I like a bunch of those songs aforementioned honestly. And while songs like these are not true to their hip hop roots, its still qualifies as hip hop. Hip Hop is the one form of music where you can truly speak your mind without any limitations. Whether it be about sex, drugs , money, alcohol, life , conscience, etc. Hip hop is the reason why artists from other genres are able to speak their mind with no limitations. I bump mainstream to underground, doesn't matter to me.

Many people consider BIG, Eminem, and Pac hip hop, but yet they rap about all the same things the so called rappers killing hip hop rap about. Pac and Biggie used bitches and hos in their songs and represented the thug life, so why are they considered real hip hop artist? Is it because they have songs besides ass shaking that tells a story that others can relate to. Because if so, I can give you songs where TI and Ludacris have given us songs that were inspirational.
TI ft. Jamie Foxx - Live in The SKy
Ludacris ft. Mary J Blidge - Runaway love
And thats not all. I've even heard Kanye talk about hos in his song, but yet he is highly respected.
Not saying these artist aren't dope, I like every artist I mentioned.
And for the record , 50 cent was a much better artist when he was on the mixtape scene before he got the deal.

Furthermore you have Fabulous on the countdown, who drops multis that will more than likely tear apart most underground rappers you listen to. Don't underestimate this dude , he drops dope lines.

I play them diamonds well when I got dat jewelery on,
They should call the Parrykeater, or canary bonds,

Very dope line when you think about it.

I respect your opinion , but I disagree with it to an extent. The reason why I've always been fascinated with hip hop is because you can pretty much go in any direction with it. Hip Hop is more than just the music itself. From the fashion , breakdancing , graffiti, music, on further down. This is why I never really try to determine what real hip hop is, because in Hip Hop you have freedom.

[steezahh]

Haha Paulina are you trying to style on me?

I'm not going to sit here and lie. I like a bunch of those songs aforementioned honestly. And while songs like these are not true to their hip hop roots, its still qualifies as hip hop. Hip Hop is the one form of music where you can truly speak your mind without any limitations. Whether it be about sex, drugs , money, alcohol, life , conscience, etc. Hip hop is the reason why artists from other genres are able to speak their mind with no limitations. I bump mainstream to underground, doesn't matter to me.

Many people consider BIG, Eminem, and Pac hip hop, but yet they rap about all the same things the so called rappers killing hip hop rap about. Pac and Biggie used bitches and hos in their songs and represented the thug life, so why are they considered real hip hop artist? Is it because they have songs besides ass shaking that tells a story that others can relate to. Because if so, I can give you songs where TI and Ludacris have given us songs that were inspirational.
TI ft. Jamie Foxx - Live in The SKy
Ludacris ft. Mary J Blidge - Runaway love
And thats not all. I've even heard Kanye talk about hos in his song, but yet he is highly respected.
Not saying these artist aren't dope, I like every artist I mentioned.
And for the record , 50 cent was a much better artist when he was on the mixtape scene before he got the deal.

Furthermore you have Fabulous on the countdown, who drops multis that will more than likely tear apart most underground rappers you listen to. Don't underestimate this dude , he drops dope lines.
Very dope line when you think about it.

I respect your opinion , but I disagree with it to an extent. The reason why I've always been fascinated with hip hop is because you can pretty much go in any direction with it. Hip Hop is more than just the music itself. From the fashion , breakdancing , graffiti, music, on further down. This is why I never really try to determine what real hip hop is, because in Hip Hop you have freedom.

Haha, no way. But i really agree with what you said. It is fascinating because of how much you can get from it. They're are hella aspects, and that makes the culture so real & cool.

& Yeah Lil' Wayne #1, oh no. Why is it that his mixtapes are better than his actual albums? you know something is wrong when you get a mistake that big.

[HoodNigga]

Haha, no way. But i really agree with what you said. It is fascinating because of how much you can get from it. They're are hella aspects, and that makes the culture so real & cool.

& Yeah Lil' Wayne #1, oh no. Why is it that his mixtapes are better than his actual albums? you know something is wrong when you get a mistake that big.

LMAO I can't belive they put that dude at number one. And I agree his mixtapes are better than his actual albums. And LOL at him being number 1. I swear he can say just about anything and people will be amazed by it. He is like on my rappers that make me laugh list , which include


5. Jim Jones
4. Juelz Santana
3. Young Jeezy (Ayeeeeee)
2. Cam'ron
1. Lil Wayne

But he still cool though.

[steezahh]

HAHAHA!
Nice...

have you heard Cam'Ron's Chicken Head skit on Purple Haze i think it was?
HAHAHAHA! It's hella funny. Seriously Listen to it.