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[queen]

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i mean, i would be pissed, too, if i were just browsing random threads, and out of nowhere was posted a crucial plot twist from a book. but if it really meant that much to me, i wouldn't have gone on the internet in the first place.

then again, i'm just one person. other people would probably take more offense. but i still honestly believe that those who know they'd take great offense wouldn't put themselves in that situation.

[retaliate]

Even after all of that, its still just a book
If someone were to ruin the book for you in person(IE, see you with the book and ruin the ending for you) what would you do? Attempt to punish them? Call the police?

I read the spoilers and still read the HP book, and I felt that I still thoroughly enjoyed the book.

Getting so upset over something is childish.

[brooklyneast05]

Getting so upset over something is childish.

yea but i feel posting spoilers with the intention to upset people is more childish

and some of the spoilers( ie. the ones that weren't labeled) were there for no reason but to spoil it for people.

[HoodNigga]

I personally don't care about spoilers, but I can understand why one might be upset. The thrill and suspense turns into anger and resentment because everything is ruined. With Harry Potter for instance you have tons of fans who have been waiting since the first Harry Potter book to find out the conclusion of the series, but yet all it takes is one person to ruin it for a bunch of people.

While I wanted and did find spoilers elsewhere other than this forum, that still doesn't give me the right to spoil it for someone else. You could post Harry Potter spoilers on another forum and people may not react the same as they would on here.

Therefore if someone wants to post spoilers and its such a big issue, why not just make a thread specifically for spoilers, where you can post spoilers without the restriction of the SPOILER tag. Those who click can simply enter at their own risk.

[*Programmer*]

Got To Love Them.

[*superstitious*]

yea but i feel posting spoilers with the intention to upset people is more childish

and some of the spoilers( ie. the ones that weren't labeled) were there for no reason but to spoil it for people.

That there is what I find to be upsetting. The intent to upset people, especially when it is made clear to you that it *is* upsetting people.

Now, one could say... how do you that someone's intention is to upset? Well, if you were asked/told "please don't spoil, people have been looking forward to this and it isn't fair to them to have it ruined for them" and you continue to do so, obviously you are doing that with the intention of upsetting because you were specifically told what the result would be.

Sure, not *everyone* is bothered or upset with spoilage. That's just grand, really. However, how much of an effort is it, truly, just to be respectful of those who have such a reaction to these things? Is it really so much to ask to do something as simple as posting a spoiler warning and use a couple of tags? Are people that engrossed in the idea of ruining things? Even if things don't turn out the way it was posted (in the spoiler), was the intent truly not to upset or ruin things? Especially when there are places/threads that already have speculation brewing?

I think that is the root of what I find troublesome. Spoilers happen. In the perfect world (or at least in my perfect little fangirl kingdom) it wouldn't. Man, if I knew ahead of time how season 3 of Lost was going to end, I would be really bummed because part of what made that last episode so powerful and so dramatic was not knowing what was going to happen. Unfortunately, sometimes you just come across these things. Sometimes people will post a spoiler, not knowing that it isn't cool to do so. Hey, they didn't know, you know? But when they *do* know, why then would they continue?

I post more questions than answers. Sorry guys, I've never been too savvy with debates.

Oh by the way, I already have an ulcer. Wasn't caused by spoilers though. (Kidding...well, actually I really do have an ulcer) :[

[*tripvertigo*]

what is this "true" or "false" spoiler business?

A spoiler is only a spoiler if it is TRUE.

If I read a "false" statement or speculation about a book, then read the book, only to discover that it wasnt true, and it was way different, i think i might be more excited than pissed off.

[demolished]

Micron should enable this feature something called "drop down link"

Basically, you just click a word and the spoiler pops out.

I'm glad kyro brought it up so the moderator will have it easier in the future although kryo's action wasn’t nice.

If you guys don’t know what I’m saying, it's in this website.

http://www.narutocommunity.net/

OR the concept is the same as the xanga's disable code. i forgot the name of the code. i'll explain it. It like navigation and when you hover it, more links pops out.

HEY TRISH! what does it called?

[*tripvertigo*]

dynamic.. dropdown?

[*Michelle*]

what is this "true" or "false" spoiler business?

Intentions

[*tripvertigo*]

uh... no.

[*Michelle*]

uh... no.

uh... what?

[*tripvertigo*]

Read the post. A spoiler is not a spoiler unless it is true. There is no such thing as a "false" spoiler. People need to stop making shit up.

[*Michelle*]

Read the post. A spoiler is not a spoiler unless it is true. There is no such thing as a "false" spoiler. People need to stop making shit up.

A spoiler, spoils the book. If you don't know whether it's real or not, ANY ENDING that is in some way plausible is a spoiler. It spoils the book.

Agreed.

[*ersatz*]

If someone doesn't know that it's not really a spoiler because they haven't seen the truth yet (obviously) and it's presented as such, how is it not?

Like...fine and dandy if you know it's not true...but if you don't, it could easily be...no one knows.

[*tripvertigo*]

thats why you then READ the book and get a nice little surprise when you find out it's not true.

christ almighty.

[*Steven*]

thats why you then READ the book and get a nice little surprise when you find out it's not true.

christ almighty.

Unless the first ones end up being true and you start to wonder if it's worth reading the rest of the book because the spoilers told you everything that happens. Granted that's on a case by case basis and a lot of the time they aren't, but there were a # of spoilers posted on cB that came out to be true.

[dustbunny]

how about let's just not mislead people and have them figure out things on their own. that way, no one gets offended, and no one wastes their precious time coming up with false/true spoilers. sadly, i think there will always be those people that just like to ruin things...

*log onto isketch
*random person says: HERMOINE AND HAGRID DIEEEEEEE *SOBSOBSOB

me: WTF? FACKFACKFACK NO WAAAAAY T__T

its just not nice

[*Steven*]

Then that's not a spoiler at all.
Spoilers can only happen before the book.
You can't have a spoiler for the book, after you read the book. That doesn't make any sense.

I think she was saying that that's why you read the book to find out it's not true, after someone posts the spoilers. I assume you were interpreting it as reading the spoiler after the book knowing they aren't true?

[*tripvertigo*]

...


Ok, lets just spell this out for you.

Person posts "fake spoilers."
HP Fanatic gets pissed.
HP Fanatic then reads the book.
HP Fanatic gets a nice little surprise when he realizes the spoilers werent true.

[Jeng]

IMO I hate when people ruin the story in say like Harry Potter, ruins it so bad, people who do post spoilers should have a warning and say that their post/thread does contain spoilers.

[*Steven*]

Man I just stopped reading anything remotely linked to the book before I was going to read it. If I saw the start of a spoiler I'd immediately cross my eyes to blur everything.

[*tripvertigo*]

i dont think me spending the extra time to spell it out for you is rude. its generous for me to spend extra time doing anything for people i dont like.

anyway, they should be nicely surprised because they would have spent the whole time reading the book, bummed out, because they think something someone said is going to happen.

And then it doesnt. Something completly different happens. They never saw it coming. It surprised them more than if the other person DIDNT lie to them.

I dont see how what level of a fanatic you are is relevent.

[Spirited Away]

Are spoilers worth getting upset over? No, in my opinion, only because I live for spoilers (as do a number of other people).

I see that there are people who absolutely abhor spoilers, but I don't understand the reason for this great hatred. Is there any logical reason or is it just personal feelings involved?

Should foiler posters be punished? ABSOLUTELY NOT. A prank is a prank, is a prank. Harmless pranks should be taken as just that, HARMLESS. If you think a prank as damaged your ability to enjoy a book, then you, as a person with no sense of humor, should resign yourself to a such a life. Meaning, don't go where pranks will be pulled.

Should spoiler posters be punished? Depends. Did they intend to spoil? If yes, then go through the necessary procedures to stop them/punish them. If no, then a simple... quit it is enough, they'll get it. However, suspension because someone wants to spoil a book for someone else is rather... harsh, in my personal opinion.

Should the level of punishment be based on the book itself? Maybe, maybe not. All books are created equal. They may not have the same fandom, but the number of fans shouldn't dictate how good or how important a book is because all that is personal opinion. And, no one's personal opinion (without facts) can be more important than another person's personal opinion.

In other words, just because someone's more of a fan than another person, doesn't mean their rights are that much more important.

[*tripvertigo*]

Are spoilers worth getting upset over? No, in my opinion, only because I live for spoilers (as do a number of other people).

I see that there are people who absolutely abhor spoilers, but I don't understand the reason for this great hatred. Is there any logical reason or is it just personal feelings involved?

Should foiler posters be punished? ABSOLUTELY NOT. A prank is a prank, is a prank. Harmless pranks should be taken as just that, HARMLESS. If you think a prank as damaged your ability to enjoy a book, then you, as a person with no sense of humor, should resign yourself to a such a life. Meaning, don't go where pranks will be pulled.

Should spoiler posters be punished? Depends. Did they intend to spoil? If yes, then go through the necessary procedures to stop them/punish them. If no, then a simple... quit it is enough, they'll get it. However, suspension because someone wants to spoil a book for someone else is rather... harsh, in my personal opinion.

Should the level of punishment be based on the book itself? Maybe, maybe not. All books are created equal. They may not have the same fandom, but the number of fans shouldn't dictate how good or how important a book is because all that is personal opinion. And, no one's personal opinion (without facts) can be more important than another person's personal opinion.

In other words, just because someone's more of a fan than another person, doesn't mean their rights are that much more important.