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Why Do People Use Drugs?, and/or smoke
S-Majere
post Jul 18 2007, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 18 2007, 06:05 PM) *
What are the negatives? Didn't you take the time to read the site I linked before? I bet it'll answer every question you have. Specially since the person answering/debunking the questions/myths is a scholar.


I didn't, no. Off-forum links bug me out. I'll head over now though.

Interesting post; seems we do only get the 'drugs = bad' idea from the media, schools and ex-addicts. I'll be looking into that.
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(S-Majere @ Jul 18 2007, 06:46 PM) *
Don't quote me on this; but I *think* cigarettes initially slow down weight-gain by inhibiting something-or-other. Isn't it when you start to wean yourself off them that you put on weight?


I believe the answer is, nicotine speeds up the metabolism. While at the same time it suppresses hunger.

Here's a link, might be helpful: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/4...table_when.html
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(S-Majere @ Jul 18 2007, 07:09 PM) *
I didn't, no. Off-forum links bug me out. I'll head over now though.

Interesting post; seems we do only get the 'drugs = bad' idea from the media, schools and ex-addicts. I'll be looking into that.



Now don't get me wrong. I'm not saying go to a dealer and buy marijuana. Statistically speaking, over 60% of marijuana in the U.S. has been modified. By pesticides/bug spray, and other dangerous chemicals. It is wise to grow and smoke your own harvest, than to purchase from some middle man who's just out to make a buck.

For example, XTC... used to be 100% MDMA, but now a days, people are using fillers, like asprin, heroin, coke, ephedrine etc... so the xtc is just some cocktail of drugs mixed together which can easily kill someone.

I would never do X again, I'd do pure MDMA but that's even rare.


P.S. Sorry for double post, we really need the delete post option... sucks when we get told not to double post over and over =\
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 18 2007, 07:05 PM) *
When I was in highschool I started off smoking just to socialize. I remember my boy, Ryan asked me if I wanted to hit the blunt, and I said sure (I didn't even think twice about it)... I smoked and enjoyed it. Basically everyday, we'd smoke 2-3 blunts. For about 6 years, it was this way.

After high school, a couple years into college I finally started to research marijuana. I stopped smoking everyday, stayed sober for 6 months to let my lungs heal (suggested by scientists, the resin of marijuana is no where near as horrible as the tar from cigarettes/cigars)



Didn't know I asked for a smoking life story. blink.gif
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 06:22 PM
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younger people do it because they think it makes them look older (if you want wrinkles)
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(elbaliava @ Jul 18 2007, 07:22 PM) *
Didn't know I asked for a smoking life story. blink.gif


Was explaining my highschool experience, which everyone generally experiences, even if your parents won't admit it (unless they were total geeks, no offense)

That's why I used highschoolers as an example for people who really don't have a clue how you could use marijuana... and how they just smoke it for the feeling.
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 18 2007, 06:32 PM) *
Was explaining my highschool experience, which everyone generally experiences, even if your parents won't admit it (unless they were total geeks, no offense)

That's why I used highschoolers as an example for people who really don't have a clue how you could use marijuana... and how they just smoke it for the feeling.


Understandable. I'm a geek - I'd never touch the stuff.

Perhaps it's the conditioning, the scare stories - 'tever. Stuff like that has some adverse effect, like it or not.

Yes, Mr T-Cracker, I'm getting round to reading your link before I reply again.
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 18 2007, 04:18 PM) *
Marijuana:

Appetite Booster
Sleep Aid
Anti-Depressant (If used wisely)
Muscle Relaxer
Concentration Booster
And used prior to meditation, specifically Chakra.

Oh and Cigarettes are worst than Marijuana, and alcohol should truly be illegal, not Marijuana.

Why Marijuana Is Important And Should NOT Be Called A Drug

P.S. I don't drink alcohol, nor smoke cigarettes.


Although that site makes a convincing argument, I'm still skeptical. With all the benefits listed, there are also equal downsides. Marijuana makes you sleepier and less able to concentrate, thereby making you incompetent to drive. Although I agree pot isn't nearly as bad as cigarettes, I would never encourage anyone to regularly smoke pot.
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 06:57 PM
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Peer Pressure.


(cliche, i knowww.)
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(radhikaeatsraman @ Jul 18 2007, 07:49 PM) *
Although that site makes a convincing argument, I'm still skeptical. With all the benefits listed, there are also equal downsides. Marijuana makes you sleepier and less able to concentrate, thereby making you incompetent to drive. Although I agree pot isn't nearly as bad as cigarettes, I would never encourage anyone to regularly smoke pot.



Well yeah, I said marijuana is a sleep aid. But have you experienced a high from marijuana? Keep in mind there's over 1,000 different strands of marijuana. There's also people who import it from other countries, sell them to dealers. These dealers know that the half life of marijuana (strength of THC) is pretty low. And that the marijuana will be shittier quality. So as time goes, they tend to spray chemicals onto their product making it "good" (for a crack head who doesn't care about the kind of marijuana, as long as he/she gets his/her high)

I'm not trying to boast or anything, but marijuana helped me graduate highschool. After I got my diploma, I mean when I had it in my hands, and I was in the car goin back home. I told my mom, the last two years of highschool was successful because of something she hates. And she couldn't understand, I told her it was marijuana, I smoked marijuana every morning before school (just a few drags, I didn't want to smoke my head off) and during lunch period.

The high helped me concentrate, you see... marijuana boosts your concentration, all you have to do is focus.
Why do you think marijuana is mentioned when it comes to meditation? Type this on google, "meditation and marijuana"

You'll simply be surprised.

As for the website, there was.. or still is a contest. If you can prove ANY of what is revealed to you on that site to be wrong, you can win $100k but you need to prove it with scientific study.

As for the driving, unless you're so blasted out of your mind high from the highest quality of marijuana in the world, you should be able to drive without a problem. It doesn't mess with your reaction either. Like I said before, do not let your mind idle. Take control of your mind and don't let your mind control you.

Also I would never recommend a child nor teen to smoke marijuana. I would rather them do research and let them decide (not a child, but a teen yes lol). But never would I encourage it. If you ever got into the history of the Native Indians, male's were not allowed to smoke until they were 19 years old. In other parts of the world it was as young as 16.

It just depended on what tribe believed when a boy became fully capable of handling an adult life/responsibilities.

P.S. Till this day, when I smoke... I can't be around elders nor children. I get this guilt and feel shameful because I don't want someone younger than me to think it's alright to smoke anything in general. And I don't want an elder to think I'm some scumbag loser with no life. Cuz generally, that's what most people think of pot smokers.


Oh by the way, I don't know of any negatives, other than munchies (natural reaction when your body tries to regulate itself and delude the THC with food/liquids) and the common allergic reaction to smoke, red eyes.
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(brownsugar @ Jul 18 2007, 08:35 PM) *
Jeez, Grandpa Dan, you have like 10 page argument saved up for everything. biggrin.gif



I average @ 94 WPM... so typing my full thoughts doesn't take so long, nor discourages me to take 5 minutes of my time to thoroughly explain myself. I was taught in school to give full answers. Not short ones. thumbsup.gif
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Cannabis as ADD treatment... more effective and obviously safer than Ritalin.

MSNBC's Keith Olbermann interviews a bold and honest physician/pediatrician from the University of Southern California who explains how medical cannabis can be used to treat ADD in children.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj72e...elated&search=



I remember reading Carl Sagan was an avid weed smoker and claimed to have the most powerful insights into life and the heavens while using it. And I think just about every professor at a nearby university called Evergreen smokes weed.

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More info on Carl Sagan:
Carl Edward Sagan (November 9, 1934 â₏â₏œ December 20, 1996) was an American astronomer and astrobiologist and a highly successful popularizer of astronomy, astrophysics, and other natural sciences. He is world-famous for writing popular science books and for co-writing and presenting the award-winning 1980 television series Cosmos: A Personal Voyage, which has been seen by more than 600 million people in over 60 countries, making it the most widely watched PBS program in history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan

Got health problems? Smoke/Drink marijuana:
http://www.worldhealth.net/p/medical-marijuana.html

Nutritionists and Bodybuilders know this well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasodilatation

Have some humor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wixlfPnxJTo...ted&search=
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 07:46 PM
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It's just fun. I don't do it unless I'm with friends, and I'm definitely not addicted to it. Hookah makes me relax, and weed helps w/ boredom oftentimes. I also LOVEEEE it for music. Seriously, that's probably* the best thing about the whole experience: the way the music makes you feel.
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(MyMichelle @ Jul 18 2007, 08:46 PM) *
It's just fun. I don't do it unless I'm with friends, and I'm definitely not addicted to it. Hookah makes me relax, and weed helps w/ boredom oftentimes. I also LOVEEEE it for music. Seriously, that's problem the best thing about the whole experience: the way the music makes you feel.



You know what's funny?... it makes me wanna go to art museums. It gives me such a deep and odd perspective when I look into the canvas of someone's art work...

I have a secret that I don't mind sharing, since non of you know me personally. But one time, when I went to an art museum, I sat there and analyzed the art in front of me, to the point I actually busted a tear. It was like I felt the emotion that was put into the art work. And my girl was like OMG... you really love art!! I felt kinda embarrassed. Yet, I loved it... because sober I can look at art and see the great design and the effort that was put into it. But never have I felt an emotion from a piece of art. Ever.
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 07:57 PM
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Different people have different reasons for doing drugs. I would never smoke pot though. Too many bad experiences with it. My boyfriend smoked pot an awful lot - he ended up getting arrested with it and now he's in rehab. Soooo - I won't ever do it. :]
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 07:58 PM
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CRYSTAL METH IS THE f**king SHIT, I STOLE 7 CARS AND BEAT UP 3 WHORES LAST NIGHT ON IT.
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 07:59 PM
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CRYSTAL METH IS THE f**king SHIT, I STOLE 7 CARS AND BEAT UP 3 WHORES LAST NIGHT ON IT.
 
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CRYSTAL METH IS THE f**king SHIT, I STOLE 7 CARS AND BEAT UP 3 WHORES LAST NIGHT ON IT.
 
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*PROBABLY , gah, NOT "PROBLEM"

Suz - NO!

Tama - I have not had the chance to go into any artistic revelations during my, er, experiences. I will have to try that out during art class sometime, though.
 
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CRYSTAL METH IS THE f**king SHIT, I STOLE 7 CARS AND BEAT UP 3 WHORES LAST NIGHT ON IT.
 
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CRYSTAL METH IS THE f**king SHIT, I STOLE 7 CARS AND BEAT UP 3 WHORES LAST NIGHT ON IT.
 
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CRYSTAL METH IS THE f**king SHIT, I STOLE 7 CARS AND BEAT UP 3 WHORES LAST NIGHT ON IT.
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 08:00 PM
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^ THAT'S SOME PRETTY HOTT SHIT.

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post Jul 18 2007, 08:00 PM
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CRYSTAL METH IS THE f**king SHIT, I STOLE 7 CARS AND BEAT UP 3 WHORES LAST NIGHT ON IT.

CRYSTAL METH IS THE f**king SHIT, I STOLE 7 CARS AND BEAT UP 3 WHORES LAST NIGHT ON IT.

CRYSTAL METH IS THE f**king SHIT, I STOLE 7 CARS AND BEAT UP 3 WHORES LAST NIGHT ON IT.

CRYSTAL METH IS THE f**king SHIT, I STOLE 7 CARS AND BEAT UP 3 WHORES LAST NIGHT ON IT.

CRYSTAL METH IS THE f**king SHIT, I STOLE 7 CARS AND BEAT UP 3 WHORES LAST NIGHT ON IT.

CRYSTAL METH IS THE f**king SHIT, I STOLE 7 CARS AND BEAT UP 3 WHORES LAST NIGHT ON IT.

This post has been edited by brownsugar: Jul 18 2007, 08:07 PM
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post Jul 18 2007, 08:03 PM
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^ can you name the namesss?

fo realzzz.

psht
hoez these days, tsk tsk.
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(Leeko @ Jul 18 2007, 09:02 PM) *
CRYSTAL METH IS THE f**king SHIT, I STOLE 7 CARS AND BEAT UP 3 WHORES LAST NIGHT ON IT.


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