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ComradeRed
post Jun 11 2004, 11:49 AM
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It's much more fun with degrading uniforms.
 
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post Jun 11 2004, 12:01 PM
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Wow, for once, I agree with you, Minda. thumbsup.gif
 
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post Jun 11 2004, 03:30 PM
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i'm good with what i wear. i don't want to wear a uniform and no one will can make me.
 
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post Jun 11 2004, 04:40 PM
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post Jun 12 2004, 12:22 AM
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no he can't. he's been dead for far too long.
 
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post Jun 12 2004, 05:38 AM
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post Jun 12 2004, 01:14 PM
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I hate wearing uniforms. I have to wear a navy blue polo with the school's emblem and a kilt to school. I could wear slacks, but they're the most uncomfortable pants ever. Also, if you don't have school outerwear you have to be cold during the winter. That might be the stupidest rule ever considering we're on a campus. Even with the jackets you're cold (not to mention the lack of heating in the high school building)

Uniforms are expensive and uncomfortable. I hate them.
 
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post Jun 12 2004, 06:55 PM
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i say no. i think that there should be a policy as in no skirts higher then blah blah. but i dontthink its necessary to have school uniforms. I say peopel should be abel to wear what they want
 
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post Jun 12 2004, 07:03 PM
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Of course there shouldn't!! Man, I can't wear all my pretty clothes to school. _dry.gif stupid junior high.
 
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post Jun 12 2004, 10:18 PM
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i say no. i think that there should be a policy as in no skirts higher then blah blah. but i dontthink its necessary to have school uniforms. I say peopel should be abel to wear what they want

Um...people don't adhere to those rules. With uniforms, you can't go wrong. thumbsup.gif

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Of course there shouldn't!! Man, I can't wear all my pretty clothes to school.  stupid junior high.

Um...can you not wear those clothes other places? blink.gif
 
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post Jun 13 2004, 03:01 AM
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you can...

" oh... it shrank... a lot. "

uniforms cut away individuality. uniforms force conformity. uniforms were the tools to the communists and the socialists.

yea, let's make everone wear the same things so no one's feelings are hurt and everyone has enough clothes on.

uniforms are the easy way. unless all your classes are in a lecture hall size, your teacher should be able to look you over and tell if you're dressed inaproppriatly.
 
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post Jun 13 2004, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(lilaznkkid @ Jun 8 2004, 11:43 PM)
heck no!!! not for the uniforms but because i had to rite like 20 essays on this subject alredy!!!!

Therefore, when we get uniforms, there goes the essays because the matter has been solved.
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uniforms cut away individuality. uniforms force conformity. uniforms were the tools to the communists and the socialists.

Once more, you dont see some people in highlighter colors and another in gothic colors. Theres not much individuality in youth. Most people have jeans and a tee and whatnot. Probably have some saying on the front. Most people wear for the trend, not wake up in the morning and think, oh, I'm sad today ill wear this.
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Uniforms are expensive and uncomfortable.

As opposed to regular clothes? "Oh damn, this skirt is the latest trend but its 50 dollars. I'll buy it though!" "Oh gosh this shirt is so hot. Its like off the shoulder and kinda transparent. but its about 75 dollars. Ill buy it!"
Alright, a uniform you buy about 2,3 sets. Okay, thats about 150. As opposed to the money that you spend on "trends"?
 
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 13 2004, 3:01 AM)
uniforms cut away individuality. uniforms force conformity. uniforms were the tools to the communists and the socialists.

yea, let's make everone wear the same things so no one's feelings are hurt and everyone has enough clothes on.

uniforms are the easy way. unless all your classes are in a lecture hall size, your teacher should be able to look you over and tell if you're dressed inaproppriatly.

Conformity isn't so bad if it can stop cruelty. Kids will sneer at people who wear things not so ordinary.

In contrast to your arguement, wearing different clothes will force kids to be labled and also discriminates amongst themselves or their peers.

So what if your teacher saw you dressed inapropriately? The best you'll get is a parent conference or detention, but the harm has already been done. Other kids see the way you dressed and they will want to be as outrageous.
 
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you can...

" oh... it shrank... a lot. "

It's called get a new uniform. _smile.gif

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uniforms are the easy way. unless all your classes are in a lecture hall size, your teacher should be able to look you over and tell if you're dressed inaproppriatly.

Actually, it's hard for the male teachers to say so because you'll get a complaint from the pupil's mother, asking, "WHY THE HELL ARE YOU LOOKING AT MY DAUGHTER LIKE THAT?!" Also, teachers won't say anything anyways because by that time, they get to know the students.
 
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post Jun 14 2004, 12:02 AM
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oh , do people love quoting. well, i guess it can better show what you are refrering to.


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It's called get a new uniform.

the shrank a lot part is about a shorter skirt, i sure you could pass that off for a day or two.

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Conformity isn't so bad if it can stop cruelty. Kids will sneer at people who wear things not so ordinary.

In contrast to your arguement, wearing different clothes will force kids to be labled and also discriminates amongst themselves or their peers.


if you think uniforms will get rid of clics, you are sadly mistaken. kid will find ways. making everyone wear the same clothes isn't going to solve problems with clics and discrimination.

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Once more, you dont see some people in highlighter colors and another in gothic colors. Theres not much individuality in youth. Most people have jeans and a tee and whatnot. Probably have some saying on the front. Most people wear for the trend, not wake up in the morning and think, oh, I'm sad today ill wear this.
PEOPLE READ BACK TO THE EARLIER ARGUMENTS!!

most people is not everyone.

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Actually, it's hard for the male teachers to say so because you'll get a complaint from the pupil's mother, asking, "WHY THE HELL ARE YOU LOOKING AT MY DAUGHTER LIKE THAT?!" Also, teachers won't say anything anyways because by that time, they get to know the students.


yes, but you wouldn't happen to have all your teachers be male, would you?

and then the problem is the teachers.



personaly, i think the problems of inaproprate dress take care of itselves. if a girl dresses like a slut everyday, she probably is and people can know she's a slut.
 
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post Jun 14 2004, 12:07 AM
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if you think uniforms will get rid of clics, you are sadly mistaken. kid will find ways. making everyone wear the same clothes isn't going to solve problems with clics and discrimination.


tru dat. my friend, Sexy chris, hasta wear a uniform to school and he's hates the "thugs at his school".
 
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post Jun 14 2004, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 14 2004, 12:02 AM)
if you think uniforms will get rid of clics, you are sadly mistaken. kid will find ways. making everyone wear the same clothes isn't going to solve problems with clics and discrimination.

But it will at least eliminate one way of cruelty, and that's better than nothing at all.

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personaly, i think the problems of inaproprate dress take care of itselves.  if a girl dresses like a slut everyday, she probably is and people can know she's a slut.


That means people will actually judge her for who she is, instead of what she wears. People wouldn't be 'judging a book by its cover' as they usually do.
 
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post Jun 14 2004, 12:20 AM
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i think there should be school uniforms, and that's that everyone could run around naked. That way no one would violate the uniform, since EVERYONE wants to dress like a slut and show off everything.
 
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post Jun 14 2004, 12:24 AM
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But it will at least eliminate one way of cruelty, and that's better than nothing at all.


yea. the cruelty of "she waers (name brand here). she must be (ignorant remark here)", which any intelegent person would disregard.

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That means people will actually judge her for who she is, instead of what she wears. People wouldn't be 'judging a book by its cover' as they usually do.


so that's really just adding a step to knowing she's a slut. really, i know that people arent' what they seem. i'm the best example ever of that! but people are always gunna make some judgement on appearence, it's just wrong to make your final judgement on it.

theres a girl who goes to my school who looks like a whore. i didn't care. i got to know her, talked to her, found out she was a whore. it explained why she dressed like one. people usually don't dress misleadingly.
 
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QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 14 2004, 12:24 AM)
yea. the cruelty of "she waers (name brand here). she must be (ignorant remark here)", which any intelegent person would disregard.

That's not the only situation with clothes, and you know it.

There are things like: "she wears black, she must be goth", "she's so preppy", "he's a nerd", "he's a 'poser".

And those are just a few examples. Clothes, unfortunately, is a popular tool of discrimination.

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so that's really just adding a step to knowing she's a slut. really, i know that people arent' what they seem. i'm the best example ever of that! but people are always gunna make some judgement on appearence, it's just wrong to make your final judgement on it.


It is wrong to make a final judgement on it, but uniforms can prevent this 'step' from happening. People will look at you and not be able to tell if you're into rap/rock/classic; they won't know if you prefer the NBA or Golf; they won't know if you're a slut or a decent person. At least, they won't just 'know' from looking at what you wear.

Most adults will not make those assumptions, but kids are generally trapped in their social world where clothes, cars, and money are means to popularity.


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theres a girl who goes to my school who looks like a whore. i didn't care. i got to know her, talked to her, found out she was a whore. it explained why she dressed like one. people usually don't dress misleadingly.


But that, once more, is not the only situation. There are people who dresses the way they want, and be hated/discriminate for it. Some are outcasted from their peers...
 
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post Jun 14 2004, 12:45 AM
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ever stop to think that people will go "oh, they go to a school that makes them wear uniforms. they must be great little goody 2 shoes". what about that descrimination? huh? ha! i got you beat. slightly. uniforms might stop some descrimination, but they cause others.

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There are things like: "she wears black, she must be goth", "she's so preppy", "he's a nerd", "he's a 'poser".


again, any intelegent person would disreguard. if somone's to ignorant to get to know the real me, their f'n loss.

if we really want to stop descrimination we should teach people to not do it, cause they will use absolutley anything to jusde you. uniforms should have no role in it.

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It is wrong to make a final judgement on it, but uniforms can prevent this 'step' from happening. People will look at you and not be able to tell if you're into rap/rock/classic; they won't know if you prefer the NBA or Golf; they won't know if you're a slut or a decent person. At least, they won't just 'know' from looking at what you wear.


the step i was talking about was getting to know the person. and people shouldn't discriminate from that, they should just learn from it. what's the point of wearing anything if it doesn't slightly reflect your interests? we might as well all be naked and not have lymbic systems in our brains.

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Most adults will not make those assumptions, but kids are generally trapped in their social world where clothes, cars, and money are means to popularity.


so smart kids, such as myself, don't let the prejudgice get to me. popularity really isn't good at all. we're all kids, we'll all find some way to cope.
 
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post Jun 14 2004, 12:51 AM
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well either way, if there were uniforms they'd label you based on other things, like how far you can go violating it, your hair, etc. no one can escape labeling
 
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QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ Jun 14 2004, 12:51 AM)
well either way, if there were uniforms they'd label you based on other things, like how far you can go violating it, your hair, etc. no one can escape labeling

tru dat.
 
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post Jun 14 2004, 10:03 AM
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I can deal with the issues on individuality and such. I can understand that it's to prevent people from dressing like whores. I also realize that they want us to look nice and uniforms are really the only way.

What I really can't stand about uniforms though, is that I have to freeze to death in the winter because of them . At my school we're on a campus. We're only allowed to wear the outerwear for the school. The jackets are around $65, then you can order sweaters, but they don't keep you very warm. So, I have to first spend a ton of money on the kilts, socks, shoes, and shirts. Then buy a $65 jacket or freeze to death! If you wear a jacket that isn't from the school you can get a detention for it. A detention for trying to keep warm.

Also, even with the jackets your legs are still cold. The girls are allowed to wear slacks, but they're really uncomfortable. So, for girls, we can wear normal sized socks, knee socks, or tights. The tights bunch up your skirt and make walking uncomfortable. The knee socks don't keep your knees or thighs warm. As for the normal socks, nothing stays warm.

Not to mention we have no heat in the high school building. Since we can't afford to fix the heater we get these little things that keep 1/4 of the class warm. Except they make a lot of noise, so they don't get turned on!

They're pretty impractical when I already own stuff to keep warm that I'm not allowed to wear.
 
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QUOTE(DisneyPrincessKate @ Jun 14 2004, 10:03 AM)
What I really can't stand about uniforms though, is that I have to freeze to death in the winter because of them . At my school we're on a campus. We're only allowed to wear the outerwear for the school. The jackets are around $65, then you can order sweaters, but they don't keep you very warm. So, I have to first spend a ton of money on the kilts, socks, shoes, and shirts. Then buy a $65 jacket or freeze to death! If you wear a jacket that isn't from the school you can get a detention for it. A detention for trying to keep warm.

yah, that's not cool >;[. they should either lower the price, or just let you wear your own jackets. geesh.

well, i went from catholic school with uniforms to an art high school, where people wear what they create haha. yah, i choose the school that allows me to get up in the morning, look like crap, and still have a fun 'ol time ;P
 

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