A CHALLENGE TO THE ATHEIST Options

[kimmytree]

^ Yeah, that's pretty scary, and unnecessary. Who in the right mind would take the time to do something like that?

[1angel3]

^ Yeah she is really immature.

[uninspiredfae]

Who cares? And the Talmud says all Non-Jews are subhuman... deal with it.

Because Thomas Paine is a better writer, I will quote him here:

"I do not mean by this declaration to condemn those who believe otherwise; they have the same right to their belief as I have to mine. But it is necessary to the happiness of man, that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe." -- The Age of Reason

We may be sub-human, but at least we are as faithful to ourselves as any Jews or any other so-called superior human.

[illriginal]

Because Thomas Paine is a better writer, I will quote him here:

"I do not mean by this declaration to condemn those who believe otherwise; they have the same right to their belief as I have to mine. But it is necessary to the happiness of man, that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe." -- The Age of Reason

We may be sub-human, but at least we are as faithful to ourselves as any Jews or any other so-called superior human.

lol I don't believe ANYONE is a sub-human. We are all made up of the same atoms.


But in all honesty, I think people should keep their religious point of view to themselves. If it was like this since the beginning, we'd most likely all get along. Well, there's racism as well but whatever.

[uninspiredfae]

That was in response to what the Talmud has to say about non-believers.

[xKatt]

Tamacracker, no matter what we say you're not going to get anything through your head.

Arjuna's going to kill me for this, but I think that if he cared he'd have halted your rude posting ages ago. So here goes;

First of all, you are an arrogant prick and that's NOT something to be proud of. I've read enough of your posts to know exactly what you're going to say next which will probably consist of several "lol"s in succession, a lack of thinking and further condescending smartass comments.

So far, you've completely butchered this entire thread. And then since you see that most people are opposed to you, you're milking it for all it's worth as if you were an almighty power that can handle all us "youngsters" at once. It just proves how pathetic you are that you can't debate with the people your own age and have to "lower yourself" to our levels. Why don't you go to another forum where people are of your intellectual level?

Clearly, you are missing the point of a debate. When something is up for debate it means that the answer is arguable. Thus the shroud of Turin is neither proven fact nor hoax, so you can't say that we're too ignorant to comprehend "the truth" because no one knows the truth.

And you say you're leaving the thread and yet you come back. You're pathetic. Does it give you a self-esteem boost to attack 13 and 14 year olds? You must be proud of yourself. Why don't you go crucify yourself?

[illriginal]

Tamacracker, no matter what we say you're not going to get anything through your head.

Arjuna's going to kill me for this, but I think that if he cared he'd have halted your rude posting ages ago. So here goes;

First of all, you are an arrogant prick and that's NOT something to be proud of. I've read enough of your posts to know exactly what you're going to say next which will probably consist of several "lol"s in succession, a lack of thinking and further condescending smartass comments.

So far, you've completely butchered this entire thread. And then since you see that most people are opposed to you, you're milking it for all it's worth as if you were an almighty power that can handle all us "youngsters" at once. It just proves how pathetic you are that you can't debate with the people your own age and have to "lower yourself" to our levels. Why don't you go to another forum where people are of your intellectual level?

Clearly, you are missing the point of a debate. When something is up for debate it means that the answer is arguable. Thus the shroud of Turin is neither proven fact nor hoax, so you can't say that we're too ignorant to comprehend "the truth" because no one knows the truth.

And you say you're leaving the thread and yet you come back. You're pathetic. Does it give you a self-esteem boost to attack 13 and 14 year olds? You must be proud of yourself. Why don't you go crucify yourself?

Damn, my #1 fan. By the way, all I read was Tamacracker. The rest of your post I didn't waste my time on. Thanks for admiring me

Silly dummy :P

[*Flair*]

^ What is your problem? You call yourself mature but you're not, you sound like a bitter kid. You obviously can't debate without resorting to insults.

Since we are all ignorant, THANKS, why don't you leave? I mean, obviously, you're the almighty brain. Leave us ignorant kids on our own.

I remember arguing with you looonnng time ago (I'm not justifying my behavior ... maybe you should read my early posts) but it boils down to the same thing, you think you're superior. So OH SUPERIOR MASTER, why not join a superior forum?

Bullshit.

[illriginal]

^ What is your problem?

I'm a Scorpio... learn your Astrology.

[*Flair*]

... don't. Really, it makes you seem pathetic.

[illriginal]

... don't. Really, it makes you seem pathetic.

Get over it... no one here cares about you nor your opinion of anyone. You bore me, keep me on ignore, don't answer to any of my posts and I won't frustrate you lil' girl or whatever you are.

[tr1pp1n]

Don't make the americans with the big bad tanks invade your country and show you there is no god with merciless killing of innocent civilians (as usual)!

[*ersatz*]

Get over it... no one here cares about you nor your opinion of anyone. You bore me, keep me on ignore, don't answer to any of my posts and I won't frustrate you lil' girl or whatever you are.

Nah, pretty sure everyone agrees with her (him?).

[illriginal]

Nah, pretty sure everyone agrees with her (him?).

I'm sure anyone who's on the ban wagon vs. me, would.
But guess what? I honestly don't care. I'm not here to impress anyone but myself.

[uninspiredfae]

Wow, then you've succeeded. But, oh boy, it doesn't take much to impress you.

[*Flair*]

Get over it... no one here cares about you nor your opinion of anyone. You bore me, keep me on ignore, don't answer to any of my posts and I won't frustrate you lil' girl or whatever you are.

You really think you can frustrate me? You? You? Hahahahaha. Pauvre enfant qui croit qu'il est supérieur aux autres!

[NoSex]

Can we ban members from the Debate forum for being delusional, mentally deficient, and suffering possible psychosis? I mean, they really frustrate the progress of these discussions. Seriously.

[illriginal]

You really think you can frustrate me? You? You? Hahahahaha. Pauvre enfant qui croit qu'il est supérieur aux autres!

I have you speaking in your own language, I think I've succeeded.

And NoSex... You guys put up a debate/argument that has been used and forgotten. It's like arguing about the man came from the monkey. It used to hold water, now it's debunked and old. But guess what? Uneducated people still think the same theory is valid even though their science has already proved that theory incorrect.

Then when I tell you the same thing about the shroud, you guys start taking offense from my enjoyment. I couldn't even take this debate serious. All you guys did was read about someone representing the authenticity of a religious relic, then try to find whatever possible source that would say that the relic is false. And to make it even worst, the sources weren't even up to date. Honestly it's not, because the medieval fake no longer holds water. But that's all you guys keep throwing at me.

I'm sorry you're wrong for the first time on this thread but don't get all soft now... at least try to debunk it from a different aspect. Until then, your arguments held NO water. Nor was it worthy to debate every single one of those arguments because it's been argued for 20 years. I don't waste time on debates in which are "trite". I like freshness, I like new ideas, new arguments, new debates etc...

[*Flair*]

French isn't my language, so no, you didn't succeed.

I finally get it! You didn't come here to debate, you came to force your opinion down people's throats. Besides, I thought you didn't care so why do you keep coming back? A little contradictory ... isn't it?

[illriginal]

French isn't my language, so no, you didn't succeed.

I finally get it! You didn't come here to debate, you came to force your opinion down people's throats. Besides, I thought you didn't care so why do you keep coming back? A little contradictory ... isn't it?

Honor.

You disrespect my honor and I'll fire back. Just like you keep coming back, you're defending your honor and want your last word in.

I stand by my words, whether they're arrogant, condescending, and disliked... I don't take anything back, not for some human, too many of us in this world for me to feel sympathetic and shameful.

And French isn't your language?

What does that say anyways? I know it's something like: Poor infant/kid that something, superior than others?

I didn't look it up either, it's a Latin/romance language which is some-what easy for me to understand, whether it be Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, French, or Romanian.

[xKatt]

mshdlkjshdlkasjdfhlks Flair's right. I'm stupid for arguing with someone so low.

[*Flair*]

This is getting over the hedge. I honestly do not want to spoil this thread.

Tamacracker, French isn't my native language but I've been speaking it for a looong time now. I said: poor infant who believes he's superior to others.

[illriginal]

mshdlkjshdlkasjdfhlks Flair's right. I'm stupid

Fixed and yes, I agree. Now we have an agreement.

[uninspiredfae]

Okay, you seem to think that you're the only one with any education about the world's religion. No, in fact, you think you (or whatever forum you came from) are the book of knowledge on religion. It doesn't bother me that you think so (it's fine with me if my neighbor thinks he's God; nothing surprises me anymore), but it does have something to do with credibility.

Now, I haven't been around for a while so I don't know what's been said, but whatever argument I see now are ad homimen... and you all know what those arguments are like.

Anyway, what was this thread about? Proving God? Well, religion is as powerful as imagination; you can imagine God exists, and then someone else can imagine He doesn't. If you cannot respect someone's religion/beliefs, THEN RESPECT THEIR IMAGINATION.

[illriginal]

Okay, you seem to think that you're the only one with any education about the world's religion. No, in fact, you think you (or whatever forum you came from) are the book of knowledge on religion.

Heh... it's nothing like that. All I did was make mention of the Shroud Of Turin. Which just so happens to be an authentic relic proven by Science. That's all it was. Then the argument was one of which is 15-20 years old, "medieval fake". Which was debunked when they committed carbon dating, it proved it was before the medieval ages/era/period whatever you wanna call it.

I also mentioned to purchase the book, "The Urantia" which has no author, and was discovered in it's entirety. It was then published back in the early 1900's. The book is basically Scientifically proving that if indeed Jesus did exist (which seems like he did from the proof given) that it is even MORE probable that God in fact does exist. Whether it be a form of energy, whether it's everything that exists, or it's a high celestial being.


But I'm over it, no need to keep goin at it.
The only and final thing I will add to this is; like the scale of justice my heart remains balanced and neutral and my respect for all men is mutual.

You've been given the chance to understand the true and living, so do the knowledge, before you do the wisdom.

I'm out, catch yall later, PEACE! In the Middle East