cb submission standards Options

[micron]

i posted this in backstage aimed at staff members, just felt the community should know.


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im still making sure there arent any bugs in the submissions engine, but i want to say something about standards that i think is way over due.

i understand that many of you want cb to only have the highest of quality, but i personally think this is counterintuitive to bringing createblog to the masses. for example, lately (and one of the main reaons ive decided to seperate myspace layouts to div overlays and standard), is because increasingly i only see div overlay layouts. sure, div overlays are pretty and look great, but that only accounts for less than 1% of the entire myspace community. i think its a flaw in our logic to think that highering the standards even more will bring in more members. in fact, its just going to do the opposite. submitters will stop submitting their layouts, because they will fear (know rather) that it will be rejected. and without new layouts, people will visit createblog less often to check up on the new layouts, which means with less traffic theres just less opporunity for people to submit things. you see, its a downward spiral were going, if we maintain our current rediculous "standards" aiming to please only the measly 0.0001% of our potential audience. which says something especially if the staff members themselves dont have any quality layouts /graphics submitted to cb.

in anycase, im going to ask everyone to loosen up on teh standards. instead of accepting what pleases you, think in terms of the community. ask yourself, will someone out there use this layout / graphic ? if the answer is yes, accept the layout, no matter how you may feel about it. your perspective is very important, but only because you should be thinking behalf of the community, not yourselves.

i hope i made myself clear. if you disagree wtih my stance, feel free to tell me why.

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

woo! it's about time especially with all those topics in feedback about how we need to become more strict, accepting only the best and clearing out the worst.

[*tripvertigo*]

i never understood why people didnt want standard layouts to be submitted anymore. 95% of myspace users do not have even a basic understanding of css/html. They would not be able to use overlay layouts because they may not be able to personalize the content. Div overlay layouts are only useful to users that understand where to put their own content in. Many myspace users still value the basic myspace layout because it allows them to create content without having to style each field.

At the same time, higher quality standard layouts CAN be created. Look at Roxanne's myspace, for example.

[micron]

^ oh yea, staff members should discuss it in backstage. this is for community discussion.

[melodicminor]

i like it. cuz it effects me! yay! i'm really good at making banners so i mostly make default layouts and save the overlays for myself! this makes me want to submit a lot more!!! yay!

[gelionie]

Is this only applicable to layouts, or to graphics as well?

[*stephinika*]

I like it. It doesn't really matter to me if it's an overlay layout, as long as it looks good... *shrug* But yes, I agree about Trish's comment on Roxanne's page, cause hers is great and it's with the standard myspace layout.

[shortcake]

I completely agree, a lot of people go for the cute (simple) and maybe not "high quality" stuff. I know I do sometimes.

[HelloSunshine]

This is super great.

It's true, though. Even people who do know html/CSS like using standard and simple layouts.

I agree with this entirely

[michellerrific]

oh thank you! i have been ranting about this in my head for awhile now. in fact i was just thinking about it earlier. this is definitely true. majority of myspace users don't even use the div layouts. i'm becoming better at making divs by the day but i will always refuse to use them for myself. thank you thank you.

Edit - I am also rejected majority of the time, and i wonder why, seeing that most of the rejected PM's explain no reason as to why they weren't accepted. IT REALLY BOTHERS. there was probably only one or two times that I got a reason saying why, and I think both of them were sent back by Toya. Well thank you Toya! and to the rest of you? Dunno what to say.

[Mireh]

yes. thankyou. and as a veteran layout submitter, i am POed.

I think it's kind of ridiculous how I submitted these layouts at the very beginning of CB, just to find that each one of them is being deleted for being "incompetent" three years later.

Shame on you mods who are deleting these old layouts. these are a part of CB history. shame shame on you.

I've gotten this message about 20 times.

Hi,
Thank you for submitting a layout. However, I'm sorry to inform you that your layout submission was not approved. I encourage you to continue submitting, I promise you, your hard work will pay off!

Disgraceful.

[*IVIike*]

i agree but they can't just accept any regular layout they have to be exceptional but i def. think it's a good idea

[*Insurmountable*]

Holly Infinite: this needs to be rejected:
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/code.php?id=18194
Holly Infinite: on larger resolutions it looks horrible >_<
Holly Infinite: uhm
Holly Infinite: I'm sorry but the coding was poorly done
Holly Infinite: oh and at least you would hope they were smart enough to set the background color to black
Holly Infinite: so on larger resolutions it looks right

[YourSuperior]

^There's still a chance that someone would use it.

[*Insurmountable*]

^Yea but still its really bad, I mean come on the coding could have been done so much better. I mean if someone on staff would like to keep it on i mean at least fix the coding a bit. Or atleast change the background color to black instead of the ugly gray so it looks right for larger resolutions.

[Rachel]

^I personally think the layout is cute. And if the coding bothers you, fix it. I really don't see why it should be rejected.

[Kaytay]

thats a good idea. i used to come here looking for some regular layouts and there never were any :[ maybe i'll submit some

[falsetigerlimbs]

Well, I would make standard layouts, but to be honest, I find it much easier to make DIV overlays. O_O
Plus they allow me to be more creative.

Maybe I should practice making more standard layouts. =/

[*alovesopure*]

Holly Infinite: this needs to be rejected:
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/code.php?id=18194
Holly Infinite: on larger resolutions it looks horrible >_<
Holly Infinite: uhm
Holly Infinite: I'm sorry but the coding was poorly done
Holly Infinite: oh and at least you would hope they were smart enough to set the background color to black
Holly Infinite: so on larger resolutions it looks right

I fixed the background color.

[kimmytree]

This is great.
With this and the new cb, I'm tempted to start submitting things again.

But is this just for myspace and other blog site layouts? Or for web layouts and graphics as well?

[*superstitious*]

In light of another standards topic, I'm going to go ahead and bump this because I'm not sure how many have read Ju-Sun's view(s) on the subject. =)

[Blaqheartedstar]

i understand that your trying to get CB out there and accepted layouts that will "appeal" to everyone else but what about the jockers that are now coming in? that has doubled since before...
and layouts of poor quality not meaning in style but the image it self.... there are layouts here that are soo pixled they don't look as clear as the screenshot portrays it to be. do you really think it will appeal to people to have blurry graphics on their layouts? i just don't want this to end up like skem9 which is like CB just their layouts are the worst (user submited layouts)

[anime-essence]

I agree. I was told that Createblog was going to be different, the exception of superficial graphic/layout sites that have taken over the internet today. I guess things change...

[*mzkandi*]

i understand that your trying to get CB out there and accepted layouts that will "appeal" to everyone else but what about the jockers that are now coming in? that has doubled since before...
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There isn't much we can do to prevent jockers, unfortunately. You find that in all aspects online. The best way to take care of this now (and in the past) is from informants who can identify when something is jocked and we take care of it from there. And sometimes we staff members catch them ourselves and deal with it accordingly.

[1angel3]

There isn't much we can do to prevent jockers, unfortunately. You find that in all aspects online. The best way to take care of this now (and in the past) is from informants how can identify when something is jocked and we take care of it from there. And sometimes we staff members catch them ourselves and deal with it accordingly.

I agree with this everybody, but I concern about the jockers aswell, I know a couple of them that jock me. I think the standards should be lowered to