Worst Staff Member of the Month Options

[*MyMichelle*]

Why should the "Worst Staff Member of the Month" recieve additional punishment?

Additional punishment from what? Being the winner? Or additional punishment decided upon by the staff.

I meant originally that there should be a decided punishment that only takes place if the staff majority votes upon it.

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Also, if there isn't a punishment, then anyone could start the contest right now in the Lounge, hahaha. It would still be a real thread because everyone can give their input! And it isn't against the rules, because it would be like any other Q&A thread! :O

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Oh, and, Kryo's quote on Brownsugar was funny :T I mean, I could not see that as a form of bashing, and he did claim that he edited it.

[*steve330*]

steve330: I didn't say you didn't know who he was. I was simply identifying him. I didn't say you said moderators were participating in member bashing either...I said if you see it, please identify it.

I didn't say you said I said that, merely that they were active in that thread likely responding to the OP and ignoring the bashing going on.

[*kryogenix*]

steve330: I didn't say you didn't know who he was. I was simply identifying him. I didn't say you said moderators were participating in member bashing either...I said if you see it, please identify it.

MyMichelle: Yeah, I meant additional punishment other than winning. I didn't say it was bashing. It was the fact that he quoted something I didn't say, and I didn't appreciate it. If a member told me that someone quoted them as saying something else, I would do the same thing. I've done it before. I barely read it, but if it was so funny it should've been able to stand alone by itself without being quoted. Or he could've quoted himself as saying it.

Do you see the problem?

[*kryogenix*]

Nor did I claim you said it. It clearly said FIXED. As in, I changed it. If you had to be uptight, you should have just edited out your name. What you did was unacceptable.

[*MyMichelle*]

So, we can start the contest now? :K

[*steve330*]

Oranges

It's all good

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[*MyMichelle*]

I don't understand why we can't start it. I, personally, do not plan on it because I really haven't had any big issues with mods.

If it's not an official contest, it's still a thread. There would be no rules broken (I think). It would just be like another "What's your favorite perfume" but a "What's the worst staff member"?

[*mzkandi*]

As an admin I can't say I support this. If you think someone is being the worst staff member then do say so in the Mod Performance. Please use that thread how it is meant to be used. If there are serious and valid criticisms brought up please believe the admins will look into it. If a punished is deemed necessary, depending on this issue, it will be carried out.

[*steve330*]

"Whose the worst staff member?"
"What's your favorite perfume?"
"Which embassy do you plan on bombing in the near future?"
"What kind of socks to you prefer?"

It's all the same really.

[*MyMichelle*]

If there were a regular ol' thread, then there would be no official punishment! ^_^

[*kryogenix*]

As it goes, whenever you quote someone, you are taking a part of something they said. Whether it's vocally, written, or on a forum like this one. You don't have to say that I said it, if you would keep my name out of your posts it wouldn't be a problem. Thanks.

LOL INTERNET SERIOUS BUSINESS.

Newspapers paraphrase all the time. That's basically what I did.

As an admin I can't say I support this. If you think someone is being the worst staff member then do say so in the Mod Performance. Please use that thread how it is meant to be used. If there are serious and valid criticisms brought up please believe the admins will look into it. If a punished is deemed necessary, depending on this issue, it will be carried out.

You miss the point. The point is about mods having accountability.

[*mzkandi*]

I haven't missed any point. I do believe each mod should be accountable for their actions. It's of my opinion that we don't need a "contest" to do that.

[*steve330*]

it wouldn't be so much a contest as a better way to get people active in it.

[*MyMichelle*]

Well, no it's not, because there weren't 4 page threads started about "What's your favorite perfume?". It has turned out be to be very controversial, and it should be discussed thoroughly before it is (maybe) created. Especially with all the moderators.

So, if the thread was open, it would be closed. Even if it weren't breaking any rules?

Many things are controversial. Especially in the debate room. None of those are closed, even if they are controversial and can cause offensive things to be said.

[*MyMichelle*]

EDIT

I do not plan on opening it.

[*steve330*]

Big brother doesn't like being spoken out against in popular areas.

[*MyMichelle*]

^ Darn.

[*kryogenix*]

I haven't missed any point. I do believe each mod should be accountable for their actions. It's of my opinion that we don't need a "contest" to do that.

You missed the point.

[*superstitious*]

As an admin I can't say I support this. If you think someone is being the worst staff member then do say so in the Mod Performance. Please use that thread how it is meant to be used. If there are serious and valid criticisms brought up please believe the admins will look into it. If a punished is deemed necessary, depending on this issue, it will be carried out.

At first this seemed like a potentially fun/funny idea. Now it appears that what this is turning into is a place that is basically the Moderator Feedback thread made in the Lounge and not a contest at all. I apologize for saying this, but it's like wanting a contest in order to give validity to complaints when having a complaint is simply valid enough. Criticize, give feedback, it's what the Feedback forum is all about. Kiera, Ju-Sun and I do talk to staff about things that are brought up unless it is specifically asked that we don't bring it up (which has happened).

LOL INTERNET SERIOUS BUSINESS.

Newspapers paraphrase all the time. That's basically what I did.
You miss the point. The point is about mods having accountability.

XD It's funny that you say that ("internet serious business"). I have never known someone to be so focused on a forum that he admittedly has distaste for. You constantly gripe, and although you do so in an entertaining way at times, you still do nothing but complain. I get this sense of you being just as serious as anyone here. Just an opinion/observation, not at all an insult, I swear. Regarding accountability, please see what I replied with above under Kiera's quote.

I haven't missed any point. I do believe each mod should be accountable for their actions. It's of my opinion that we don't need a "contest" to do that.

You haven't missed the point, Kiera. We don't need a "contest" to prove how/if people are inadequate as staff members. My question really would be why people would need to go through the effort of having a contest just to convey their distaste or dislike for staff members and/or their actions.

As such, I'm in agreement and as a fellow Admin here, I no longer support what once seemed like a funny and entertaining idea.

Michelle and Steve, other than following in Kryo's footsteps here, do you have feedback? I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I'm curious. You three are the ones most often posting in this thread and seem to be this "contest"'s (if you can even call it that) most vocal advocates. Yet, I rarely see either of you in the moderator feedback (Kryo does post there and he has PMd staff about his criticisms). Staff is far more lenient in The Lounge, they're being far more lenient when it comes to submissions. Steve, you have mentioned "power tripping." Examples? Because seriously, if people power trip over an internet site, they REALLY need to get out more.

[*MyMichelle*]

Michelle and Steve, other than following in Kryo's footsteps here, do you have feedback? I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I'm curious. You three are the ones most often posting in this thread and seem to be this "contest"'s (if you can even call it that) most vocal advocates. Yet, I rarely see either of you in the moderator feedback (Kryo does post there and he has PMd staff about his criticisms). Staff is far more lenient in The Lounge, they're being far more lenient when it comes to submissions.

Actually, I was not following in Kryo's footsteps. I thought this was a fun idea until we decided to have a ruin-fest. I didn't care if there was a punishment or not, and FYI, I did give my feedback on how I thought the "contest" should run (since you failed to see the two paragraphs I wrote on my idea), because I, like you, thought this was a fun idea. But, no, people are power-tripping and, IMO, freaking out about what would happen if they actually won this contest. And, yes, people do power-trip in cB. I'm not going to go off and search for evidence because I do not have time right now, but I'm not surprised that people power-trip. I don't take it personally if people enjoy having power; it's human nature, right? (haha and I'm not trying to start another debate on whether it's human nature or not... just a figure of speech)

I am a vocal advocate for it because it would be a fun idea. There really isn't any harm in it as long as there is no "prize." I rarely post in the Moderator's forum, because as I have previously said, I really do not have big issues with any mods. This, in my opinion, was originally supposed to be a sort of funny/ humor type contest, but I guess most of the staff is taking an internet contest too much to heart.

Now, I'm not even sure why I waste my time on trying to make this contest real since we all ruined it because it was "too controversial" for the internet . Seriously, like you just said, it's just the internet. Why would it matter if you were the winner? ;]

[*superstitious*]

I'm not really worried about being a winner. I actually take any criticism I get very much to heart, and if I were to win, then I'd really take a look at what I was doing, you know? But the the thing is, I do that with Feedback (it's actually the first place I go to when I log on, believe it or not).

I guess I'm just really failing to see the point of having a contest.

And yes, Michelle, I've seen you post far more than what I quoted. I was just pointing out that you were one of the few consistent advocates, I didn't just meant in regards to the negative, just that you were one of the more vocal ones. I should have clarified that.

Heck, maybe it's the generational gap or something but I don't see the power tripping. Perhaps I'm just taking it too literally. XD

I'm actually disappointed that this got too serious. If you go back and read some of my responses here, I was in favor of this. I think it's fun to poke fun and to be poked fun at. I just, well, it got so serious.

[*kryogenix*]

XD It's funny that you say that ("internet serious business"). I have never known someone to be so focused on a forum that he admittedly has distaste for. You constantly gripe, and although you do so in an entertaining way at times, you still do nothing but complain. I get this sense of you being just as serious as anyone here. Just an opinion/observation, not at all an insult, I swear. Regarding accountability, please see what I replied with above under Kiera's quote.

Contradiction much?

I make joke. Mod oversteps bounds because they can't take joke. What should I do, just laugh it off, especially when I'm called a racist? Obviously if you're not going to take a joke, I'm going to have to stop joking around with you. YET YOU STILL COMPLETELY MISS THE POINT.

I know what you're doing, you're trying to set up a smokescreen to paint me as some sort of hypocrite with some obscure hope that I'll suddenly quit, regardless of how much you deny it, as you are denying that you don't like me. And even, if for arguement's sake, I believed you that you aren't just trying to dodge the issue and draw fire for your fellow staffer, you have honestly been no help at all, and I'd prefer if you'd just shut up and let brownsugar talk, because right now you're only helping her hide from my questions.

What's going to happen now huh? You guys going to send disco infiltrator to contradict me when I say something about previous mods?

You haven't missed the point, Kiera. We don't need a "contest" to prove how/if people are inadequate as staff members. My question really would be why people would need to go through the effort of having a contest just to convey their distaste or dislike for staff members and/or their actions.

As such, I'm in agreement and as a fellow Admin here, I no longer support what once seemed like a funny and entertaining idea

This post just goes to show how oblivious all of you guys are.

Either you guys are completely oblivious to what's going on and need to pull your heads out of your collective ass, or you're going to have to stop denying that you guys are making mistakes and should be held accountable.

[*davinci*]

Seriously, like you just said, it's just the internet. Why would it matter if you were the winner? ;]

Why have the contest in the first place if it doesn't matter? To answer your question: because the winner of the contest would have to take it seriously and wonder why he/she was voted the worst SMotM. If the contest and its purpose are ignored, there will be complaints that staff don't consider any criticism and shut others down.

If the staff should suck it up and let members have their fun, members should suck it up and use the Moderator Performance thread, as it is serves the purpose fully.

With that said, if members find having the contest would be more engaging and 'fun' to participate in, then I wouldn't mind. If there really is little to no valid feedback with the contest, close it.

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What's going to happen now huh? You guys going to send disco infiltrator to contradict me when I

Was Sammi ever 'sent' to intentionally oppose you? Nope.

[*kryogenix*]

If the staff should suck it up and let members have their fun, members should suck it up and use the Moderator Performance thread.

Do you guys just not get it? I've BEEN using the performance thread.

It took like ten pages just to get you guys to recognize you were wrong that one time you gave me a warning. I've been consistently ignored recently.

Get it through your heads, no matter how much you guys claim otherwise, you simply don't hold each other accountable. brownsugar has changed her story many times already and it's very clear that she was wrong, YET there still hasn't been anything done about it.

ETA: Was Sammi ever 'sent' to intentionally oppose you? Nope.

How should I know, it's a pattern I've observed though.

[*davinci*]

Do you guys just not get it? I've BEEN using the performance thread.

It took like ten pages just to get you guys to recognize you were wrong that one time you gave me a warning. I've been consistently ignored recently.

Get it through your heads, no matter how much you guys claim otherwise, you simply don't hold each other accountable. brownsugar has changed her story many times already and it's very clear that she was wrong, YET there still hasn't been anything done about it.

How should I know, it's a pattern I've observed though.

It wasn't directed specifically at you. There have been many people who have stated the staff members are sucking the fun out the contest.

I don't even know what's going on anymore with that. I was away and when I came back, it seemed like things were just blown out of proportion so I won't comment on that.

Perhaps it's a pattern but no (staff) member is asked to intentionally oppose someone. I can't believe you made such a silly claim.