Member Bashing Exceptions, The Exceptions to Member Bashing Options

[bat19]

I was just given another 10% warning level bringing my total to 20%. My crime was bashing IShotJFK. Yet I've been bashing other members for a while and it's only become a problem now. I guess the rule should be changed to "No Bashing CB Staff, Everyone else is fair game."
If it is okay to bash one member, why is it not okay to bash another? It's not like you don't see me bashing others, it's just a problem when it's you at the receiving end.

[HakunaMatata]

The staff does its best to be as fair as possible, and member bashing James warranted a raised warning level. It is never okay to member bash any sort of member; whether be staff or member, per Community Guidelines

Now, as far as your other member bashing goes, please PM me or another mod with specific examples of such behavior in which you feel that you uh, should've received punishment.

[bat19]

Being Black Interests - Debate

thus making you sound like an ignorant prick with harbored racial hostilities.

As far as saying that I have rascist views, your a f**kin moron dude.

Gays and Christians Interests - Debate

I think you two should just make out and have sex already, your both closeted homos so just own up to it.

Gays and Christians Interests - Debate

Sorry to get off-topic for a sec,but doesn't fag mean "bundle of sticks" ? LOL,i saw it in the dictionary xD

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Wow, you're like the funniest person here, and so original. What are you twelve?

Being Black Interests - Debate

What the f**k are you doing back on? I thought you quit like a little bitch after we made fun of you and your girlfriend? You're an indecisive little bastard, arent you. I guess the Asian club at school didnt have what you were looking for, huh? oh well.

Unholy Trinity Interests - Sandbox

Hey JFK, hows that for a run on sentence? You should not ask someone to apologize for having a writing style you don't agree with. I hope it is very hard for you to read my f**kin post motherf**ker.

I guess that's enough evidence. I'll have some more later on if you need it.

[demolished]

I dont know about the situation. How far did you pass the boundary? I'm not against you. There are reasons for moderator in actions.

[bat19]

I dont know about the situation. How far did you pass the boundary? I'm not against you. There are reasons for moderator in actions.

Out of everything I've posted here, the offense they cite me for is this remark made after IShotJFK criticized someone for writing long sentences and not using paragraphs.

Heath21, don't apologize for the way you write dude. Do what comes natural, make it hard for that moronic jagoff.

I called him a "Jagoff." That's it. Here's what he put.

Charming. You know full well that member bashing is against the rules. Your warning level will be raised, and the next offense will put you on mod preview.

Again, airing everybody's dirty laundery.

[*Uronacid*]

I don't know... I get the feeling that James monitors our posts a little bit closer than that of the average member, but lately he's been good to me... I wonder why the "jagoff" post bothered him so much... haha... *giggle*

[viugiufgjhfhjfhg...]

Yeah either you're all victims of internet prosecution (yet this thread includes a claim for being babysitted), or else insulting a staff member right in the face and pretend to walk away unharmed is as retarded as it turned out to be.

I don't see any of you guys trying to make an effort to receive any positive feedback, nor do you seem to be interested in maintaining a moderately decent enviorment with other members at all, so all of this whining is lacking base if you think about it.

[*Duchess of Dork*]

I think (and please correct me if I'm wrong) the issue that Jeremy is bringing up is that he should have had a raised warn level long ago instead of it just happening because a Staff member was insulted.

To the extent that he should have been warned a while ago, he's correct. I think that the fact that he was warned because of insulting/bashing a Staff member is coincidental.

And yes, we DO try to be objective when it comes to warning individuals. It isn't the most pleasant aspect of being a staff member.

PS - No, James doesn't monitor your posts more than anyone elses. You just happened to be in a thread he was active in.

[*Uronacid*]

Yeah either you're all victims of internet prosecution (yet this thread includes a claim for being babysitted), or else insulting a staff member right in the face and pretend to walk away unharmed is as retarded as it turned out to be.

I don't see any of you guys trying to make an effort to receive any positive feedback, nor do you seem to be interested in maintaining a moderately decent enviorment with other members at all, so all of this whining is lacking base if you think about it.

He did insult a staff member right in the face, but he didn't pretend to walk away (he kept right on posting). Shouldn't that staff members maintain the same standard for all other members on the site including themselves? Of all the offensive things said on that thread, the only thing he disciplined Jeremy for was when he got called a "jagoff". Of all the things said in that thread that had to be one of the least offensive.

About the positive feedback:
I'm never sure if your serious or not, but have you even seen our club thread. The entire thing is about community participation and contribution. If anything, you're post is lacking a "base".

I think (and please correct me if I'm wrong) the issue that Jeremy is bringing up is that he should have had a raised warn level long ago instead of it just happening because a Staff member was insulted.

To the extent that he should have been warned a while ago, he's correct. I think that the fact that he was warned because of insulting/bashing a Staff member is coincidental.

And yes, we DO try to be objective when it comes to warning individuals. It isn't the most pleasant aspect of being a staff member.

PS - No, James doesn't monitor your posts more than anyone elses. You just happened to be in a thread he was active in.

I'll agree with most of that, I think that Jeremy thought that it wouldn't be a problem if he called James a "jagoff" because: James is a staff member, if James wasn't disciplining anyone for anything else offensive in the thread why should James discipline him now?

I'm not so sure it was coincidental though, like you said, "You just happened to be in a thread he was active in." He was active in this thread, and he did give out a warning as soon as he was the one receiving the short end of the stick.

[*Monochrome.*]

I don't know... I get the feeling that James monitors our posts a little bit closer than that of the average member, but lately he's been good to me... I wonder why the "jagoff" post bothered him so much... haha... *giggle*

PS - No, James doesn't monitor your posts more than anyone elses. You just happened to be in a thread he was active in.

Well. to be honest i HAVE noticed along with numerous other people that its uaualy james thats the one to jump in on josh or jeremy.

I was beginning to notice this back from *sigh-i hate bringing this up again* the Unholy Trinty thread started. and when he was the one to move it.

or maybe it is what rebecca said and james happened to be active in those same threads :shrugs:

[viugiufgjhfhjfhg...]

He did insult a staff member right in the face, but he didn't pretend to walk away (he kept right on posting). Shouldn't that staff members maintain the same standard for all other members on the site including themselves? Of all the offensive things said on that thread, the only thing he disciplined Jeremy for was when he got called a "jagoff". Of all the things said in that thread that had to be one of the least offensive.

I see the complaining, although I don't see any constructive effort being done behind it. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think none of the people complaining about staff behaviour in this topic has used the report option to denounce any of the violations mentioned in here as well. As far as this discussion goes, the positive contribution to the site is null.

Furthermore, shall we recall past incidents were yourself have directed insults against a staff member out of the blue, only to go back and edit your posts when another CB staff member called you on it? We can even observe how the "no bashing rule" seems to disappear whenevr it is convenient. What with one of your guild members making jokes about "cry-o-genics" in a recent lounge topic, too .

Actions and preaching going together would really help your cause right now, otherwise you can quit trying to convince me about whatever purpose you claim your group has.

[*Intercourse.*]

I kind of agree with Jeremy, I think when it comes to a staff member starting to get bashed then it starts with the warning levels. But until then you guys are pretty lenient on that rule. I mean for example, Seon Ho, I really like him and all but you guys let him get away with way to much and honestly I think he was pulling your legs and waiting for you to warn him already yet you let him roam around cB for a while before doing so. Even if you talked to him about it he had already had a verbal warning and it was ready for the warning.

I think that really sparked Jeremy was the fact that when he bashes other people nothing happens but of course when he says one bad thing about James, James can't take it and he warns him on the spot.

[*Uronacid*]

I see the complaining, although I don't see any constructive effort being done behind it. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think none of the people complaining about staff behaviour in this topic has used the report option to denounce any of the violations mentioned in here as well. As far as this discussion goes, the positive contribution to the site is null.

Furthermore, shall we recall past incidents were yourself have directed insults against a staff member out of the blue, only to go back and edit your posts when another CB staff member called you on it? We can even observe how the "no bashing rule" seems to disappear whenevr it is convenient. What with one of your guild members making jokes about "cry-o-genics" in a recent lounge topic, too .

Actions and preaching going together would really help your cause right now, otherwise you can quit trying to convince me about whatever purpose you claim your group has.

Well, it is a complaint... this is the feedback section and it's used for ideas, complaints, and praise. Nothing wrong with what he has said.

These posts aren't "out-of-the-blue" believe me. This is your perception and not fact. I can see were you would get that idea, but it is far from the truth.

The "no bashing rule" never disappears, we know full well what we are doing and are prepared to accept the consequences each and every time as long as proper procedures are executed in giving us those punishments.

*sigh* What our guild members do outside of the missions is their business. We cannot control the members any more than staff can control members who post on different websites. We only encourage our members to contribute to the community. You should go look at our thread and read it.

I don't need to convince you, and this has nothing to do with our group.

[bat19]

I kind of agree with Jeremy, I think when it comes to a staff member starting to get bashed then it starts with the warning levels. But until then you guys are pretty lenient on that rule. I mean for example, Seon Ho, I really like him and all but you guys let him get away with way to much and honestly I think he was pulling your legs and waiting for you to warn him already yet you let him roam around cB for a while before doing so. Even if you talked to him about it he had already had a verbal warning and it was ready for the warning.

I think that really sparked Jeremy was the fact that when he bashes other people nothing happens but of course when he says one bad thing about James, James can't take it and he warns him on the spot.

ex-friggin-actly. I can think of all the people I've made fun of yet it's when I mock the people who are supposed to stop this that it becomes a problem. As far as saying that we don't suppport the site, me, josh, and Jake collectively have made little scores of people join the site who had never even heard of CB before. In the big picture that doesn't really matter, yet when you think of the people they tell and the people those people tell, it supports the site in a huge way. Just because we don't kiss the asses of the mods doesn't mean we don't support the site. We Pay it Forward. So go screw yourself dickweed.

[*Intercourse.*]

^Eh, I know what you mean completely Jeremy but the whole name calling thing probably would look better if it stopped. I think your smart enough to write the truth without rude comments to others.


Also, everyone. I really don't think you should bring in the Unholy Trinity into this, because this has nothing to do with it. Yes he may be a member of the club but it doesn't mean that every topic he posts has to be for the club. He's simply stating his own opinion. So bringing up the club, is getting a little off topic from what I can tell.

[bat19]

^Eh, I know what you mean completely Jeremy but the whole name calling thing probably would look better if it stopped. I think your smart enough to write the truth without rude comments to others.

haha. I know what you mean. I'll try to cut down but it is honestly fun.

[viugiufgjhfhjfhg...]

As I said earlier, it's a complaint without a basis.

I like how a topic that apparently doesn't affect the UT was swarmed with said group members before I posted, and keeps being the same way after my post. If you guys don't want to be grouped as a single entity don't act as one, and of course, don't complain about it later nor get your shit flipped so easily .

ex-friggin-actly. I can think of all the people I've made fun of yet it's when I mock the people who are supposed to stop this that it becomes a problem. As far as saying that we don't suppport the site, me, josh, and Jake collectively have made little scores of people join the site who had never even heard of CB before. In the big picture that doesn't really matter, yet when you think of the people they tell and the people those people tell, it supports the site in a huge way. Just because we don't kiss the asses of the mods doesn't mean we don't support the site. We Pay it Forward. So go screw yourself dickweed.

You don't support the site in a constructive manner, and as much as you like to say otherwise having you continuously acting like a jerk to people whom have done nothing to deserve such treatment, "so go screw yourself dickweed" comments included, defeats the purpose of your preaching.

We can go into specific details if needed; however it's pretty much clear that you are the last person on this site to complain about being treated unjustly when you have yet to apply the same rule to others. But rather, you keep adding one angsty rant after another to the list of motives against your original claim.

I'll repeat it. There's no reason behind your complaining, so you could honestly drop it instead of acting all brat-like when being called on it. Up to you to prove my point right or else to do something constructive once for all.

[bat19]

As I said earlier, it's a complaint without a basis.

I like how a topic that apparently doesn't affect the UT was swarmed with said group members before I posted, and keeps being the same way after my post. If you guys don't want to be grouped as a single entity don't act as one, and of course, don't complain about it later nor get your shit flipped so easily .
You don't support the site in a constructive manner, and as much as you like to say otherwise having you continuously acting like a jerk to people whom have done nothing to deserve such treatment, "so go screw yourself dickweed" comments included, defeats the purpose of your preaching.

We can go into specific details if needed; however it's pretty much clear that you are the last person on this site to complain about being treated unjustly when you have yet to apply the same rule to others. But rather, you keep adding one angsty rant after another to the list of motives against your original claim.

I'll repeat it. There's no reason behind your complaining, so you could honestly drop it instead of acting all brat-like when being called on it. Up to you to prove my point right or else to do something constructive once for all.

As I've stated many times, I did not join the site to be "constructive." I joined for the single purpose of being a dick. That may not sit well with you and you might not understand what the point is. Well, let me just give you a quick history in terms of my involvement on this site.

Josh comes in to work one day saying how he was given a three day mod-preview for something I look back on as ridiculously miniscule(I believe it was for being sarcastic). He continues to talk about it a few more times as the day progresses. He has no life(j/k).

We hang out afterwards with our friend Jake. They both think it would be a good, funny idea for me to join the site because they know the way I write, they know the way I talk, and they know my thinking process. I join and within the first two days am put on mod preview for two weeks.

Since then I've been posting in various threads, co-created the Unholy Trinity, and have put my voice out there with welcome criticism. "Criticism" being the main word. Not bitching and complaining. Criticism helps me grow as a writer. It is not criticism when people decide to throw in the power card over something that only affects them and fail to lift a finger when others fall under the same treatment.

As far as the Unholy Trinity uniting here, so what? We actually made it a point to elect the people we saw agreed with our logic and posted in the same threads we did. If they decide to post elsewhere without us knowing about it, that's their buisness.

Well, I think that's all I have to say(no name calling occured Holly).

[*I Shot JFK*]

Oh honestly, DO try not to be silly about this. Had I seen any of the posts you pointed out, I would have acted on them, had they been from you, or any other member. However, the post that I warned you for was the third time i had had cause to speak to you about breaking rules in two or three days. A warning was perfecty appropriate.

That was the first time I have warned any member that I can think of, so I'm not entirely sure why it is that you feel victimized by me. Although I would point out that if you don't want me or any other mod coming down on you, STOP BREAKING THE RULES. Simple. As. That.

Oh, and given that you complained about me airing your dirty laundry, I would like to observe that making a thread essentially to complain about the situation for all to see wa sperhaps not the best way to rectify that issue.

Oh, and on a side note, Holly, I actually agree with you about Seon Ho, but the situation with him is actually being discussed at the moment as to what is the best way to deal with that particular issue. He hasn't been tackled just yet, but action is pending, so don't worry about that.

[bat19]

Oh, and given that you complained about me airing your dirty laundry, I would like to observe that making a thread essentially to complain about the situation for all to see wa sperhaps not the best way to rectify that issue.

That's exactly why I posted this in the FEEDBACK forum. Honestly I didn't really care that you aired my buisness but you did the same to Josh and I didn't think it appropriate or necessary for others to know his buisness.
If you try to quote the whole thing about Josh airing the warning levels, that's his decision and in no way did he post the part where he's had conversations with other mods and administrators.
But none of this actually has anything to do with the Club we created, which you currently are not a part of. If you would like to join, please PM Josh, Jake, or Myself(I believe there are a few others you can PM, I'm not sure).

[*Intercourse.*]

I'm not worried about it, but I think if someone offends you James I think you should let someone else deal with it.


When ever any of the staff has been bashed someone else usually deals with it because this exact thing ends up happening.

Like in that Tell The Truth topic, maybe you should just start ignoring then and let them say what they want, because it really does look like you go out and read their posts when ever you find them just so maybe, just maybe you can get them in more trouble. The whole topic more than likely should have been closed from what I can see, you guys know for a fact that it would have ended up with someone saying something wrong about something, and then they get all offended.


Come on guys just follow the rules if someone does something wrong once, you verbally warn them. They do it again you go ahead and warn them because apparently they know what their doing. Then after they've been warned and they do the same thing again that they got warned for in the first place, my god go ahead and put them on mod preview.

It solves a lot more drama by just following the rules instead of letting them roam about on createblog and continue doing all those things again and not get punished for them at all.

That's all hes trying to really point out, and its true that a lot of you guys do exactly what is in bold.

[*I Shot JFK*]

That's exactly why I posted this in the FEEDBACK forum. Honestly I didn't really care that you aired my buisness but you did the same to Josh and I didn't think it appropriate or necessary for others to know his buisness.
If you try to quote the whole thing about Josh airing the warning levels, that's his decision and in no way did he post the part where he's had conversations with other mods and administrators.
But none of this actually has anything to do with the Club we created, which you currently are not a part of. If you would like to join, please PM Josh, Jake, or Myself(I believe there are a few others you can PM, I'm not sure).

I don't actually know what you're talking about, but that's fine.

Holly, if someone member bashes, and see it, i will warn them. If they are bashing me, or whoever. I've been warned in the past by Rebecca, for bashing Rebecca. That was her job, and is my job. I got over it. If people don't want to be warned by me, then they shouldn't break the rules. End. Of.

And frankly, I could care less what people think regarding my atitude to Jeremy, Josh, or whoever, because any sort of personal attitude towards them on my part went away a long time ago. Because it wasn't entertaining or productive to any party. If they still think it exists, then I suggest that you advise them to move on, because any perpetuation is entirely one-sided. I will also point out that I didn't seek out the post that Jeremy made for which he was put on mod preview, it was brought to my attention by a third party. Not that it is relevant.

The fact is, yes, I've warned them more than I have anyone else. Because (other than Seon Ho, which is something I've addressed already) they have broken the rules more than anyone else I have seen. If people think that warning the people who break the rules equates to some sort of bias, then whatever. That, frankly, is self-pitying delusion, and is no basis for complaint.

[sadolakced acid]

fuck you.
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I can't stop you but please refrain from saying such things.

This post has been edited by mona lisa: Feb 10 2007, 11:56 PM

[viugiufgjhfhjfhg...]

As I've stated many times, I did not join the site to be "constructive." I joined for the single purpose of being a dick. That may not sit well with you and you might not understand what the point is. Well, let me just give you a quick history in terms of my involvement on this site.

Josh comes in to work one day saying how he was given a three day mod-preview for something I look back on as ridiculously miniscule(I believe it was for being sarcastic). He continues to talk about it a few more times as the day progresses. He has no life(j/k).

We hang out afterwards with our friend Jake. They both think it would be a good, funny idea for me to join the site because they know the way I write, they know the way I talk, and they know my thinking process. I join and within the first two days am put on mod preview for two weeks.

Since then I've been posting in various threads, co-created the Unholy Trinity, and have put my voice out there with welcome criticism. "Criticism" being the main word. Not bitching and complaining. Criticism helps me grow as a writer. It is not criticism when people decide to throw in the power card over something that only affects them and fail to lift a finger when others fall under the same treatment.

As far as the Unholy Trinity uniting here, so what? We actually made it a point to elect the people we saw agreed with our logic and posted in the same threads we did. If they decide to post elsewhere without us knowing about it, that's their buisness.

Well, I think that's all I have to say(no name calling occured Holly).

You said in this topic:

As far as saying that we don't suppport the site, me, josh, and Jake collectively have made little scores of people join the site who had never even heard of CB before. In the big picture that doesn't really matter, yet when you think of the people they tell and the people those people tell, it supports the site in a huge way.

Either you contribute to the site or are another run of the mill internet jerk. You can't do both things since they quite mutually exclusive (unless you join SA or 4chan ), so as far as this thread goes it's still totally pointless in its very escence.

[sadolakced acid]

Who did you say f**k you to? Me or James?

You pick.