Has anyone else ever felt this way? |
 May 9 2007, 06:04 PM
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Personally, I'm usually pretty forgiving. I forgive and move on but when something ends up being a bit unfair and some people start to act really biased towards others and not keep it equal is when I get in the middle of things.
I've always really noticed how some staff members take advantage of being on staff. How they can do anything but go back and yell at someone for doing the same thing they just did or punish the person for doing it; Or how they can go against the rules and then the other staff members see it and never bother to say something because of the fear of getting torn to shreds or even members afraid of saying anything because they know it will never go through and just be solved. I don't know who all has ever been punished for name calling or have a good talking to about sarcastic and comments that weren't necessary but I know plenty have. Well just in the past day I've had these comments:  Oh and have you ever kind of had one of those semi conversations in the anonymous shout outs and then have some mod come and break it up because it was against the rules and then go back and see that they as well had conversations in there? Example: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...3908&st=150 I'm all about equality and when thats not happening then its not fair. Of course mods have more abilities and responsibilities on this site but there is no reason that they should get away with breaking the rules. I'm sure I could find more examples if I looked hard enough but those are just recent things that were easy to find. Anyone agree? |
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| *WHIMSICAL 0NE* |
May 9 2007, 07:27 PM
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I honestly don't think the things he said are that bad. James can be blunt, but it's not like he was saying profane things. While it doesn't set a great example, it's not really bashing as it more him stating his opinion. Saying that he doesn't care isn't member bashing in my opinion
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May 9 2007, 07:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 116 Joined: Apr 2007 Member No: 514,820 |
^Exactly, everyone keeps saying "oh thats just James" but everyone knows regular members would have been looked at differently.
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| *Duchess of Dork* |
May 9 2007, 07:36 PM
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Yes, that definitely needs to be toned down.
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May 9 2007, 07:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 116 Joined: Apr 2007 Member No: 514,820 |
So whats going to be done about it?
I really don't mean to bring up so many bad points to you all, I just find them and think that this should all be done and treated equally. If I come off that I've really had some attitude or hatred towards the staff, I really don't. I care about this place just as much as you all and I don't want to see it fall apart. |
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May 9 2007, 07:38 PM
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 oooh yeah. Group: Member Posts: 1,333 Joined: Feb 2006 Member No: 376,533 |
^And what are we going to do about this?
To solve this problem, we could allow members to report staff members that are acting up to administrators, since admins can warn/suspend everyone if need be. The reporting system would allow the admin(s) to look into the situation without everyone taking advantage of it. |
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| *WHIMSICAL 0NE* |
May 9 2007, 07:40 PM
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Just 'cause he's staff doesn't mean he speaks for ALL the staff. The same rules should apply for staff as they do for members...
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May 9 2007, 07:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 116 Joined: Apr 2007 Member No: 514,820 |
^Thats what I was saying in my first post Deary
 ^^Rawtheekuh - You know as much as I would love for that to work, I just have this feeling like it won't. Maybe its because I don't really trust the current admins. |
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| *WHIMSICAL 0NE* |
May 9 2007, 07:43 PM
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Gotta have a little faith. My post was more in response to rawtheekuh's post. Obviously, the admins wouldn't be admins if everyone didn't trust them.
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May 9 2007, 07:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 116 Joined: Apr 2007 Member No: 514,820 |
Thats not really true, everyone has secrets. And personally I don't trust them and I mean you can't say everyone trusts Rebecca its not like the community picked her to be the new admins, Mona said she could have her place. Same goes for Kiera so Rebecca doesn't feel hurt or anything.
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| *WHIMSICAL 0NE* |
May 9 2007, 07:49 PM
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 I didn't say that everyone trusts her. -Shrugs- I've never had an issue with her, so I don't have a reason to not trust her.
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May 9 2007, 07:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 116 Joined: Apr 2007 Member No: 514,820 |
QUOTE(WHIMSICAL 0NE @ May 9 2007, 8:43 PM)  Gotta have a little faith. My post was more in response to rawtheekuh's post. Obviously, the admins wouldn't be admins if everyone didn't trust them. Maybe I took it the wrong way? |
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| *disco infiltrator* |
May 9 2007, 07:53 PM
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I disagree with implementing a moderator warning system. Moderators shouldn't need to be warned because they shouldn't do anything to warrant a slap on the wrist.
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May 9 2007, 07:53 PM
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^So what happens when they do?
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| *disco infiltrator* |
May 9 2007, 07:56 PM
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Admins tell them not to, if they do it again slightly (if they do the same thing again then fire), they are severely watched and told off, do it again, fired. I'm all for stricter mod requirements, but that might be just me...
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| *WHIMSICAL 0NE* |
May 9 2007, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(create yourself @ May 9 2007, 7:51 PM) Maybe I took it the wrong way? Meaning that there's obviously at least one person who thought that they would do good as an admin.
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May 9 2007, 07:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 116 Joined: Apr 2007 Member No: 514,820 |
Nah at this point, it was down to two people to get the pick and with some hidden secrets and confusion with in the staff and stuff I think it just played out like it did.
QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ May 9 2007, 8:56 PM) Admins tell them not to, if they do it again slightly (if they do the same thing again then fire), they are severely watched and told off, do it again, fired. I'm all for stricter mod requirements, but that might be just me... Okay so why wasn't something this simple being done before? Thats like the Admins job is to watch the other staff members. |
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| *Duchess of Dork* |
May 9 2007, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(create yourself @ May 9 2007, 8:46 PM) Thats not really true, everyone has secrets. And personally I don't trust them and I mean you can't say everyone trusts Rebecca its not like the community picked her to be the new admins, Mona said she could have her place. Same goes for Kiera so Rebecca doesn't feel hurt or anything. Not hurt and I'm not touching your "trust" comment because you have every right to feel the way feel, regardless of whether or not anyone has actually deserved any type of mistrust. To get back on point though, this has been brought up, yet again and people will be held responsible and held to the same standard as anyone else in the Community as far as rules are concerned. Thanks for your feedback. :] |
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May 9 2007, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ May 9 2007, 8:53 PM) I disagree with implementing a moderator warning system. Moderators shouldn't need to be warned because they shouldn't do anything to warrant a slap on the wrist. QUOTE(create yourself @ May 9 2007, 8:53 PM) ^So what happens when they do? Ok, this is strictly theory, but it seems as if the moderators get an extra stretch when they do something questionable. After all, demotion is a rather big deal. You don't want to feel like you're demoting something for something as small as spamming. However, it seems the motto these days is "we're humans too, and also prone to mistakes," and that everything is an excusable mistake these days.
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| *disco infiltrator* |
May 9 2007, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(brownsugar @ May 9 2007, 7:58 PM) Was that a suggestion, or were you trying to say that's what happens? Suggestion, cause like...no one really gets "fired". They just step down. I think only one person has ever really been fired for acting up consistently. |
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May 9 2007, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ May 9 2007, 9:00 PM) Ok, this is strictly theory, but it seems as if the moderators get an extra stretch when they do something questionable. After all, demotion is a rather big deal. You don't want to feel like you're demoting something for something as small as spamming. However, it seems the motto these days is "we're humans too, and also prone to mistakes," and that everything is an excusable mistake these days. Okay so the regular members shouldn't be punished, because I mean HEY were all humans and we make mistakes. ^I was put on leave for a month? And I probably wouldn't have been but from talking to people recently it was the poor communication. |
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May 9 2007, 08:04 PM
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Photoartist Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,363 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 399,390 |
Sure.
I'm not suggesting anything at all. It was a mere observation + theory. |
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May 9 2007, 08:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 116 Joined: Apr 2007 Member No: 514,820 |
Yep I know AC, and thanks for it
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May 9 2007, 09:27 PM
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 Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
I'm sorry (not really), but people take things too seriously. Why must other moderators or administrators get involved with personal problems one member/mod have with another member/mod? Since when did cB moderators become your mother, "fighting your fight for you"? This is not even a fight, it's one person's feelings getting hurt somehow (most likely, he/she's not innocent either) and using the other's moderator's status as leverage to throw them down. If moderators cannot see this, then for shame!
Okay, I don't know what the hell's going on here, but unless that mod is saying "I'm using my modly powers/status to hurt your feelings", then keep the fact that they're a mod out of it. Don't use it as an excuse. Just because they're a mod doesn't mean they can't be sarcastic or be mean to someone if that someone's deserving. Being "people staff" doesn't mean you have to be everyone's best friend, damn it. |
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| *Podomaht* |
May 9 2007, 09:30 PM
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hello, everyone.
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