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teachers, should they have higher pay?
kantoaznboi
post May 14 2004, 11:36 AM
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i believe that teachers are one the most underpaid jobs. if you honestly think, where would all the doctors be, or the surgeons be if there were no teachers? Teachers are one of the most important jobs u can have, so y do they have such low wages.

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post May 14 2004, 11:39 AM
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I believe teachers should have higher pay... think about it... they deal with us (im a pain in the butt)... plus they are teaching us... and you know how the saying goes "Kids are the future"... they should definetely be paid more for what they do... they put up with a lot
 
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post May 14 2004, 11:44 AM
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Some teachers also have degrees in other fields so they get a higher pay than an average teacher.
But what about teachers that just suck?
 
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post May 14 2004, 11:47 AM
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Usually, but not always; a teacher is a teacher because they couldn't make it in whatever field they're teaching. Take for example, my programming teacher and physics teacher. Both could have taken more promising careers with higher pay, but both most likely couldn't cut it. In reality, alot of people can teach the same course once a year; the demand just isn't high enough for increased pay.
 
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post May 14 2004, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(krnxswat @ May 14 2004, 12:44 PM)
Some teachers also have degrees in other fields so they get a higher pay than an average teacher.
But what about teachers that just suck?

teachers that suck should be dragged into the gym and beaten with reeds. j/k tongue.gif

I've been told before that I should look into teaching, but there's no way in hell I'd ever put up with other people's rugrats for the amount of money teachers are paid. Its really sad how little they're paid.
 
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post May 14 2004, 11:56 AM
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Quite a lot of teachers at my school are Cambridge and Oxford graduates with PhDs in very impressive areas such as Physics and Mathematics. These people could have easily got a job with high pay in a city earning 100,000 a year. But they chose to teach for a salary not even half of that. One guy quit his city job which was earning him 200,000 a year to teach at my school, quartering his annual salary. I think that shows his dedication and desire to teach.

I do think some teachers are underpaid, but I guess that's life. They get longer holidays than most people, so I guess that's one of the advantages of being a teacher.
 
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post May 14 2004, 12:00 PM
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Quite a lot of teachers at my school are Cambridge and Oxford graduates with PhDs in very impressive areas such as Physics and Mathematics. These people could have easily got a job with high pay in a city earning 100,000 a year. But they chose to teach for a salary not even half of that. One guy quit his city job which was earning him 200,000 a year to teach at my school, quartering his annual salary. I think that shows his dedication and desire to teach.

I do think some teachers are underpaid, but I guess that's life. They get longer holidays than most people, so I guess that's one of the advantages of being a teacher.


Those teachers choose their own way of life then. I don't have any remorse for someone that would shut down there options in life like that, and hey, if they enjoy teaching whatever. that's cool.
 
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post May 14 2004, 06:03 PM
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Usually, but not always; a teacher is a teacher because they couldn't make it in whatever field they're teaching. Take for example, my programming teacher and physics teacher. Both could have taken more promising careers with higher pay, but both most likely couldn't cut it. In reality, alot of people can teach the same course once a year; the demand just isn't high enough for increased pay.


dude u totally off. most teachers teach because they enjoy the fact that they are making a difference in peoples lives, and also, helping kids grow into somethin 2 make our world better. My mom teachers cause she enjoys kids and the thrill of it. To say that they are teachers a teacher cause they cant make it into their field, is just false.

as 4 the bad teachers, they shouldnt be allowed 2 teach. if u honestly think about it, if theres a really bad teacher, u dont learn jack shit and its just pointless 2 have that teacher there.
 
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QUOTE(kantoaznboi @ May 14 2004, 12:36 PM)
i believe that teachers are one the most underpaid jobs. if you honestly think, where would all the doctors be, or the surgeons be if there were no teachers? Teachers are one of the most important jobs u can have, so y do they have such low wages.

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^^those teachers actually get paid alot smarty!!
my teachers currently suck and dont teach anything.
the teachers union should be forced to change. no union should be able ot say that if a teacher works at a certain place for along enough time that they cant be fried. so then they stop teaching and get tons a money bull. stop the tu now!! what they are doing is worng!!

besides they only work for 180 days per year. why should they be paid more than someone who works 365 days a year??!!
 
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post May 14 2004, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(tkproduce @ May 14 2004, 11:56 AM)
Quite a lot of teachers at my school are Cambridge and Oxford graduates with PhDs in very impressive areas such as Physics and Mathematics. These people could have easily got a job with high pay in a city earning 100,000 a year. But they chose to teach for a salary not even half of that. One guy quit his city job which was earning him 200,000 a year to teach at my school, quartering his annual salary. I think that shows his dedication and desire to teach.

I do think some teachers are underpaid, but I guess that's life. They get longer holidays than most people, so I guess that's one of the advantages of being a teacher.

WOW, 100,000$, some teachers make that much? wow, I thought they only mad like 10 bucks a day laugh.gif
 
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post May 14 2004, 07:24 PM
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NO WAY>..teachers get paid plenty...they have good work hours, easy job, THE WHOLE SUMMER OFF!!! and while theyre sitting at home doing w/e theyre still getting paid in the summer..
 
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post May 14 2004, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 14 2004, 11:47 AM)
Usually, but not always; a teacher is a teacher because they couldn't make it in whatever field they're teaching. Take for example, my programming teacher and physics teacher. Both could have taken more promising careers with higher pay, but both most likely couldn't cut it. In reality, alot of people can teach the same course once a year; the demand just isn't high enough for increased pay.

Heh. My core teacher used to work at AT&T.
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Well, they shouldnt really because they are above minumum wage. Last time I checked, one of my teachers has a Mercedes.
 
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post May 14 2004, 08:31 PM
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I think the teachers get their fare share. The teachers at my school all have nice cars and gorgeous houses...haha. Granted, I don't know what their husbands make. laugh.gif Oh, and ours is just a normal, suburbian high school.
 
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post May 14 2004, 08:36 PM
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If it could be decided on teachers pay I would say they should get pay based on the grades of their students..But if there is a problem kid that never does his work then that would be different. So if the bad kid misses 10 or more assignments it wouldnt affect their pay...But ultimately it is their choice to become a teacher, they decided to get junk for wages...
 
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post May 14 2004, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(divinity_star @ May 14 2004, 8:36 PM)
If it could be decided on teachers pay I would say they should get pay based on the grades of their students..But if there is a problem kid that never does his work then that would be different. So if the bad kid misses 10 or more assignments it wouldnt affect their pay...But ultimately it is their choice to become a teacher, they decided to get junk for wages...

Yea, if it were that way a teacher's pay would be totally ruined by one kid's horrible work. And that may alos lead to false grades. Like the kid does horrible but she puts it as a B.
 
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post May 14 2004, 09:53 PM
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I think teacher's should DEFINETLY have higher pay. They teach us what we learn to hopefully become professionals in a career. They influence us in many ways and should therefore be paid more. They deserve a lot of credit for a person's success. I don't know, they just don't get paid enough.
 
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QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ May 14 2004, 10:53 PM)
They influence us in many ways and should therefore be paid more.

So, more influence should result in more pay?
 
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post May 14 2004, 10:02 PM
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Well, okay, usually we adapt some of our beliefs and develop from learning new things and different opinions. We learn this in school and from teachers. My point is that teachers are paid too little. Singers are paid too much and what do we gain from what they sing? What can singers give us that will help us acquire a successful career? I just say that we do not give teachers enough credit, and should therefore give them more pay.
 
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post May 14 2004, 10:03 PM
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yesss they should!!!!!! they teach us about the world... and how to secede... the skills we need later in life... without out them.. most of us would not know how to read or write... i know sum kids take advantages of the education they have.. they say school is boring... well i agree too... *but juss do your damn work* and teacher have to put up with the bad behavior... they are part time baby-siters...

but i dont really understand how britney spears could get paid millions od dollars juss to show her belly and dance.. while teachers are teaching us the skills we need in the real world.. they only get paid i think about 30-40 thousand! do yall get that?
 
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QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ May 14 2004, 11:02 PM)
Singers are paid too much and what do we gain from what they sing? What can singers give us that will help us acquire a successful career?

Don't singers also influence and inspire us to be better singers as well?
 
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post May 14 2004, 10:23 PM
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Not really, some singers out there aren't really good and don't give out great messages. But why should get they get paid a lot more. Do they teach us the basics of mathematics? Do they help us gain confidence to reach our goal in life? I mean, yeah they can sometimes inspire us to be better singers, but sometimes that's not the great path to go because not everybody will be able to become rich and famous. Teachers in general (elementary-->college), we can gain knowledge. What can we gain from songs? They're just lyrical cliches and yeah, they can have meanings, but they won't teach us the logarithmic equations or the factorial equations? We can use this stuff in our life, I'm just saying. Teachers should get paid more -and- singers should be paid less. Why are they being paid more than teachers?
 
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Well, more than half of the stuff we learn throughout school, we don't even use later on in our lives.

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but sometimes that's not the great path to go because not everybody will be able to become rich and famous.

But that also can be applied to the students, no? Not all of us will be able to become successful, rich, or whatever. wink.gif

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Teachers should get paid more -and- singers should be paid less. Why are they being paid more than teachers?

Entertainment. Look at athletes, too.
 
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post May 14 2004, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(jewishbabeygirl87 @ May 14 2004, 7:45 PM)
^^those teachers actually get paid alot smarty!!
my teachers currently suck and dont teach anything.
the teachers union should be forced to change. no union should be able ot say that if a teacher works at a certain place for along enough time that they cant be fried. so then they stop teaching and get tons a money bull. stop the tu now!! what they are doing is worng!!

besides they only work for 180 days per year. why should they be paid more than someone who works 365 days a year??!!

who actually works every day of the week?
weekends, days off, vacations?
 
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Same with athletes, athletes should be paid so much more than teachers. Teachers just don't get the credit that they deserve. It's not their fault that not everybody will become successful or rich. They teach us so we can gain knowledge and use it for the future. It's our choice if we choose to use it or not. That's why they deserve more money. Look at how much they get paid. It's so little and especially with budget cuts (in California) they are getting paid even less. So much money go to these careers that are so insignificant to our lives, that it's ridiculous. A lot of money is going to the war too. Not only are teachers getting paid less, but public schools are losing money. Like my chemistry teacher, since the budget cuts have made the school less able to afford experiment supplies, he has had to pay some of it with his own money. The sad thing is, he isn't paid that much so how can he always be using his own money. He's trying to teach us for the best of us, so we can learn with visuals, but since teachers aren't paid a lot, it's hard to accomplish this task.
 
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^ yah, teachers work about the same amount as most people....weekdays, about 9-4. THat's like average work time for many other jobs also...

I think that what they get now is fine.
It's not like minimum wage.
The governmetns are trying to focus on getting better updated textbooks, and take away trailers, add classrooms, add teachers, ect. I think giving every teacher in the country a raise would not be the best thing to do right now. I mean, most of them deserve it.

I think they should get like raises (maybe they already do?) for teaching good, so that they are determined to teach the students. If they already know that they will make a certain amount no matter what, whats the point in even trying? It's kind of like communism. i think?
 

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