Virginia Tech Shooting Options

[*Podomaht*]

luv2dance911 (10 hours ago)
i also write political statements on the bottom of m foot for some reason.

[vash1530]

getting shot sux...

[ParanoidAndroid]

Yo do you read the gantz manga?

[cliche duckie x3]

yeah i know 33 dead and 23 wounded.
i feel so bad

[MeanBastard]

yeah i know 33 dead and 23 wounded.
i feel so bad

Quite doubtful

[*Podomaht*]

Quite doubtful

i like you.

a/s/l?

[MeanBastard]

Those poor people at that school. That's terrible. I can't believe that there are psychos out there that would actually do things like that. So, has anyone heard if it was an act of terrorism or not? Last I heard, they were looking into it.

I can't believe there are idiots like you out there. You, I believe, are a manifestation of terrorism itself by existing.

[no-name]

Vt is only an hour away from me..I had a friend that died in that shooting. What pathetic human being would do some f**ked up shit like that. I am very surprised that the dude was Asian. And because of this shit there has been like all this discrimination against asians (including me even though i am only 1/3) at my school

[*Podomaht*]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18169776/

BREAKING NEWS
By Alex Johnson
MSNBC
Updated: 6:34 p.m. ET April 18, 2007

Sometime after he killed two people in a Virginia university dormitory but before he slaughtered 30 more in a classroom building Monday morning, Cho Seung-Hui mailed NBC News a large package, including photographs and videos, lamenting that “I didn’t have to do this,” the network said Wednesday.

Cho, 23, a senior English major at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University, killed 32 people in two attacks before taking his own life.

NBC News President Steve Capus said the network received the package in Wednesday morning’s mail delivery and immediately turned the materials over to FBI agents in New York.

The package included an 1,800-word manifesto-like statement diatribe in which he expresses rage, resentment and a desire to get even.

The material is “hard-to-follow ... disturbing, very disturbing — very angry, profanity-laced,” Capus said in an interview late Wednesday afternoon.

The material does not include any images of the shootings Monday, but it does contain “vague references,” including “things like ‘this didn’t have to happen,’ ” Capus said.

“You had a hundred billion chances and ways to have avoided today,” Cho says on one of the videos. “But you decided to spill my blood. You forced me into a corner and gave me only one option. The decision was yours. Now you have blood on your hands that will never wash off.”

Capus said gloved NBC security personnel handled the package very carefully as soon as it arrived. The network immediately called the FBI and turned it over.

The package bore a U.S. Postal Service stamp recording that it had been received at a Virginia post office at 9:01 a.m. ET Monday, about an hour and 45 minutes after Cho shot two people in the West Ambler Johnston residence hall on the Virginia Tech campus and shortly before Cho entered Norris Hall, where he killed 30 more people.

“We probably would have received the mail earlier had it not been that he had the wrong address and ZIP code,” Capus said.

Shooter speaks on camera
Among the materials are 23 QuickTime video files showing Cho talking directly to the camera, Capus said. He does not name anyone specifically, but he mentions “sin” and “spilling” his blood and talks at length about his hatred of the wealthy.

The production of the videos is uneven, with Cho’s voice so soft that at times it is hard to understand him. But they indicate that Cho had worked on the package for some time, because he not only “took the time to record the videos, but he also broke them down into snippets” that were embedded paragraph by paragraph into the main document, Capus said.

The package also includes 29 photographs. He looks like a normal, smiling college student in only the first two. In the rest, he presents a stern face; in 11, he aims handguns at the camera that are “consistent with what we’ve heard about the guns in this incident,” Capus said.

Other photographs show Cho holding a knife, and some show hollow-point bullets lined up on a table.

“This may be a very new, critical component of this investigation,” said Col. Steven Flaherty, superintendent of Virginia State Police, the lead agency investigating the shootings. “We’re in the process right now of attempting to analyze and evaluate its worth.”

Detention order issued
As early as 2005, police and school administrators were wrestling with what to do with Cho, who was accused of stalking two female students and was sent to a mental health facility after police obtained a temporary detention order.

The two women complained to campus police that Cho was contacting them with “annoying” telephone calls and e-mail messages in November and December 2005, campus Police Chief Wendell Flinchum said.

Cho was referred to the university’s disciplinary system, but Flinchum said the woman declined to press charges, and the case apparently never reached a hearing.

However, after the second incident, the department received a call from an acquaintance of Cho’s, who was concerned that he might be suicidal, Flinchum said. Police obtained a temporary detention order from a local magistrate, and in December of that year, Cho was voluntarily but briefly admitted to Carilion St. Albans Behavioral Health Center in Radford, NBC News’ Jim Popkin reported.

To issue a detention order under Virginia law, a magistrate must find both that the subject is “mentally ill and in need of hospitalization or treatment” and that the subject is “an imminent danger to himself or others, or is so seriously mentally ill as to be substantially unable to care for himself.”

According to a doctor’s report accompanying the order, which was obtained by NBC News, Cho was “depressed,” but “his insight and judgment are normal.” The doctor, a clinical psychologist, noted that Cho “denies suicidal ideations.”

Cho was released, said Dr. Harvey Barker, director of the health center.

“If a person is able, at that moment, to ah persuade a psychiatrist [and] the hospital treating team that they are OK to be released — I imagine sometimes that does happen,” Barker told NBC News.

Under the law, the magistrate could have issued a stronger detention order mandating inpatient treatment, but there was no indication Wednesday that such an order was ever entered. A spokesman for Carilion St. Albans told NBC News that he could not discuss Cho’s case because of patient confidentiality and privacy laws, but he said the hospital was cooperating with the investigation.

Otherwise, Flinchum said, there were no further police incidents involving Cho until the deadly shootings Monday, first in a young woman’s dormitory room and then at a classroom building across campus. Neither of the alleged stalking victims was among the victims Monday.

In addition to the 33 people confirmed dead, including the gunman, nine people remained in hospitals in stable condition, hospital authorities said.

[Comptine]

Vt is only an hour away from me..I had a friend that died in that shooting. What pathetic human being would do some f**ked up shit like that. I am very surprised that the dude was Asian. And because of this shit there has been like all this discrimination against asians (including me even though i am only 1/3) at my school

then i have to say, quite possibly, that your school is retarded.

a majority of school shootings/mass shootings were carried out by white people. i don't see them getting discriminated.

many students are leaving campus. they can't take staying at VT. =/

lovely how 32 innocent lives were lost and this issue has turned into a mass political issue.

one thing though: people argued that if students at VT had carried guns, then 32 people wouldn't have been lost. true, maybe someone could've stepped up to the plate and stopped the mad guy but if that's the reasoning to allow 2nd amendment supporters conceal guns... can't 2nd amendment opponents say that random people carrying concealed weapons are loose cannons? what if some dude gets drunk and gets trigger happy? or two dumb frat boys are arguing and then one draws out his gun to end the fight?

[AngryBaby]

they thought it was another crazy black dude at first, and i was like

but now its a korean, so its all good.

anyway, yeah it sucks for V tech. i wonder what kind of security contraptions we're gonna have to endure because of this.

[JerzDevil]

Haha you guys are making this thread embarassing. Why and how do you guys feel bad for him? You guys just can't ... He brought Americans nothing but shock and terror and Asians nothing but MORE SHOCK and COMPLETE SHAME ... now I don't want to see Koreans getting discriminated for this like how the Arabs got treated after 9/11. I just don't. Events like these are killing the U.S. and it's attempts to be peaceful. How dare Cho bring shame to the korean community. He didn't bring us tears at all! SMFH. If he was still alive, I would go up to him and break his glasses. Dude was a psycho. If you guys feel sorry or bad in anyway for him, I feel BAD for YOU..

close diz muthafuckin thread ......

[*Podomaht*]

Haha you guys are making this thread embarassing. Why and how do you guys feel bad for him? You guys just can't ... He brought Americans nothing but shock and terror and Asians nothing but MORE SHOCK and COMPLETE SHAME ... now I don't want to see Koreans getting discriminated for this like how the Arabs got treated after 9/11. I just don't. Events like these are killing the U.S. and it's attempts to be peaceful. How dare Cho bring shame to the korean community. He didn't bring us tears at all! SMFH. If he was still alive, I would go up to him and break his glasses. Dude was a psycho. If you guys feel sorry or bad in anyway for him, I feel BAD for YOU..

close diz muthafuckin thread ......

It's people like you that make me ashamed to be Korean.

Do yourself a favor and kill yourself.

[AngryBaby]

If he was still alive, I would go up to him and break his glasses.

that would show em'.

[*Podomaht*]

then i have to say, quite possibly, that your school is retarded.

a majority of school shootings/mass shootings were carried out by white people. i don't see them getting discriminated.

many students are leaving campus. they can't take staying at VT. =/

lovely how 32 innocent lives were lost and this issue has turned into a mass political issue.

one thing though: people argued that if students at VT had carried guns, then 32 people wouldn't have been lost. true, maybe someone could've stepped up to the plate and stopped the mad guy but if that's the reasoning to allow 2nd amendment supporters conceal guns... can't 2nd amendment opponents say that random people carrying concealed weapons are loose cannons? what if some dude gets drunk and gets trigger happy? or two dumb frat boys are arguing and then one draws out his gun to end the fight?

You do realize the only reason noone discriminates against the white people is because, oh, I don't know...maybe it's cause the MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN CONTROL ARE WHITE?

[JerzDevil]

It's people like you that make me ashamed to be Korean.

Do yourself a favor and kill yourself.

Sorry, your favor has been rejected. And first of all, before you even say that kind of non-sense, please explain yourself, WHAT you have against what I said above? Am I wrong? I don't see how I can be disagreeable ... maybe disagreed by a few, and agreed by a lot. Did you read? How do you think the Koreans nation-wide, especially the ones in America felt after hearing this tragic event? Especially, when the KILLER who made the number one school massacre disaster in the history of U.S. was OF OUR f**king DESCENT. Of course, we might've cried, because it was so tragic. But deep inside, do you think we really felt bad for that dude? I think we had some sort of anger towards him to what he has done. We're ashamed for who he was, and what he did. And what the f**k do you have to say now?

[YaGurlSukedMe2SL...]

one thing though: people argued that if students at VT had carried guns, then 32 people wouldn't have been lost. true, maybe someone could've stepped up to the plate and stopped the mad guy but if that's the reasoning to allow 2nd amendment supporters conceal guns... can't 2nd amendment opponents say that random people carrying concealed weapons are loose cannons? what if some dude gets drunk and gets trigger happy? or two dumb frat boys are arguing and then one draws out his gun to end the fight?

Its true, you can't assume everyone with a gun is a loose cannon, but you also have to think of the context on which the 2nd admendment was created. They didn't have UZI's back, and most, if not all, kept guns for hunting. Plus, how easy it to get a gun? Legally, or illegaly, its about as easy as taking a breathe of fresh air.

[Simba]

You know, Jason, it doesn't really help that you're hating on the shooter because he was Korean and "shamed" your race. You're making it harder on yourself.

[*Podomaht*]

Sorry, your favor has been rejected. And first of all, before you even say that kind of non-sense, please explain yourself, WHAT you have against what I said above? Am I wrong? I don't see how I can be disagreeable ... maybe disagreed by a few, and agreed by a lot. Did you read? How do you think the Koreans nation-wide, especially the ones in America felt after hearing this tragic event? Especially, when the KILLER who made the number one school massacre disaster in the history of U.S. was OF OUR f**king DESCENT. Of course, we might've cried, because it was so tragic. But deep inside, do you think we really felt bad for that dude? I think we had some sort of anger towards him to what he has done. We're ashamed for who he was, and what he did. And what the f**k do you have to say now?

It's probably people like you that he wanted to kill. Why couldn't you have been in there?

If you act like a bitch about this, it'll only prove to other people who aren't Koreans that we're assholes.

You do realize noone really likes us, right? Japanese and Chinese people say we have " hwa-byung. "

Nice job, retard. You probably go around youtube commenting on pro-Korean videos and hating on other nations when some dude insults Koreans.

Thanks for being an embarassment, a-hole.

[*Duchess of Dork*]

This thread has turned both distasteful and disrespectful.

Out of respect for those who have died in this terrible tragedy and their families who are feeling so much pain right now, I am closing this.

Some of you should really be ashamed of yourself.

For reason of semantics:

CONTROVERSY
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PERSONAL ATTACKS
Flaming, trolling, member bashing-you name it-will not be tolerated here. If you're making an argument, it's always better to retort with reason and composure. Personal attacks are childish and have no place in these forums.

Community Guidelines
If, by some chance we could have a thread that talks about the Virginia Tech Shooting that will honor those who are now lost, then I would love to see a News thread exist and remain open.

This one, however, will not.

Reopened, but PLEASE be considerate. Discussion is good, bashing isn't.

This post has been edited by Duchess of Dork: Apr 18 2007, 06:29 PM

[*Podomaht*]

This thread has turned both distasteful and disrespectful.

Out of respect for those who have died in this terrible tragedy and their families who are feeling so much pain right now, I am closing this.

Some of you should really be ashamed of yourself.

For reason of semantics:
Community Guidelines
If, by some chance we could have a thread that talks about the Virginia Tech Shooting that will honor those who are now lost, then I would love to see a News thread exist and remain open.

This one, however, will not.

Reopened, but PLEASE be considerate. Discussion is good, bashing isn't.

Thanks.

How can we prevent school shootings?

[blucheri]

no shit
it's not him. read his xanga, fool.
just the greatest school shooting. thats it.

I kno that WATCH UR TONGUE

[babbbyycakes]

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2697/rawr1hb3.jpg

[danifibble]

^ yeah i just saw these on MSN . did you guys watch his video? he was so full of hate.. RIP to everyone who died and condolences to everyone who is suffering today

[*kryogenix*]

In the last picture, he's all like "STOP! HAMMA TIME!"



































As in, stop picking on me or I'll hamma yo ass this time.