Out of control Boy's Locker Room Options

[phoenixpyre]

There is an abundance of UN PG-13 topics in there about female orifices, explicit sexual acts, etc. and it's driving me crazy that NO ONE is doing anything about it.

Look at this garbage (all on the first page too)

Poll: Have You Ever Seen One ? (Mens Version).

[referring to the female orifice]

Guys who go through o**l sex are not considered virgins anymore.

Fingering.

Do they discuss these things in PG-13 movies? Because if so I am certainly missing them (thank the lord).

[*Intercourse.*]

I do agree that something should be done, but I don't think its going to happen. People are going to complain about it until they keep it up and I really have always thought that the PG-13 rule should be a bit explained more. Instead of just leaving people to think have I seen this in a PG-13 movie?


There has been previous things about this though and nothing was really done..

[viugiufgjhfhjfhg...]

It's hard to expect much better from male teenagers on the Internet. The most that could be done is be more strict about the topic's contents and style, although it is impossible to predict if this would work or not.

It more than likely wouldn't stop posts that could fall outside the PG-13's rule reach, but if it could somehow influence a few of that sub-forum's habitual posters into reporting those kind of threads/posts we'd be getting somewhere.

For the record, I don't particularly mind the sex talk unless when it's absolutely retarded and makes me wish I could sterilize people over the Internet.

[*WHIMSICAL 0NE*]

I brought up the "Favorite Position" thread backstage, but it was considered PG-13 and so it was left alone. I don't really consider discussing your favorite sexual position to be PG-13. 13 year olds shouldn't know about that stuff...

[*Monochrome.*]

You know honestly if you cant be mature and handle it then dont click on it.
I understand that it pushes the line alot and that alot of people are really imature and not "rated pg-13" about it but If no one else is offeneded i really think this is just a personal issue.

Just dont go in the boys/girls locker room.Dont click.We shouldent have to just church it up because you are crying about it.

[shortnsweet88]

I have an idea..how about...when you post a topic if its not pg-13 in the second space where you can write like a sub title for the topic...write something like R rated or something. That way...they are fully Aware and warned about what they are about to view

[HakunaMatata]

^Unfortunately, that can't work because R-rated topics aren't allowed at all.

[phoenixpyre]

I'm not being a church-going pansy here, please do not disrespect the way I feel about it. And it's not just the boys. A fourteen year-old GIRL asked the question about fingering. I think that if people have questions like that, they belong on a sex forum. cB doesn't have to be all smiles and hugs, but it shouldn't have topics about stuff like the above mentioned.

You know honestly if you cant be mature and handle it then dont click on it.

Excuse me, maturity has nothing to do with it. I'm not giggling or being offended by it, I'm simply inquiring because it IS a violation of the cb RULES. If you think that rules should be ignored, than you're the immature one. (I'm not calling you immature, I am only saying "if")

[*Duchess of Dork*]

One of the problems with anything rated "PG-13" is its inherent subjectivity.

PG-13 is thus a sterner warning to parents, particularly when deciding which movies are not suitable for younger children. Parents, by the rating, are alerted to be very careful about the attendance of their under-teenage children. A PG-13 film is one which, in the view of the Rating Board, leaps beyond the boundaries of the PG rating in theme, violence, nudity, sensuality, language, or other contents, but does not quite fit within the restricted R category. Any drug use content will initially require at least a PG-13 rating. In effect, the PG-13 cautions parents with more stringency than usual to give special attention to this film before they allow their 12-year-olds and younger to attend. If nudity is sexually oriented, the film will generally not be found in the PG-13 category. If violence is too rough or persistent, the film goes into the R (restricted) rating. A film's single use of one of the harsher sexually derived words, though only as an expletive, shall initially require the Rating Board to issue that film at least a PG-13 rating. More than one such expletive must lead the Rating Board to issue a film an R rating, as must even one of these words used in a sexual context. These films can be rated less severely, however, if by a special vote, the Rating Board feels that a lesser rating would more responsibly reflect the opinion of American parents.

PG-13 places larger responsibilities on parents for their children and moviegoing. The voluntary rating system is not a surrogate parent, nor should it be. It cannot, and should not, insert itself in family decisions that only parents can make. Its purpose is to give pre-screened informational warnings, so that parents can form their own judgments. PG-13 is designed to make parental decisions easier for films between PG and R.

Source: MPAA Ratings
I'd really like to point out the bolded paragraph. While we try to keep things reasonably PG-13, the system isn't foolproof, neither are the "rules" in regards to the forum content rating/guideline.

You have to use judgement, same as we (the moderators) do.

I respect your concerns and I think that it's admirable that you care. However, I will have to respectfully disagree that what you have mentioned is in violation of cB Rules.

My recommendation is that if you see something you feel *is* in violation, report the post or send a link to that post/topic to a Staff Member with moderating powers in that forum (most likely a People Staff, Admin or Head Staff) and we'll discuss it. Sometimes *we're* wrong. Sometimes we might miss something. Either way, no one here wants anyone to feel uncomfortable. :)

[*I Viddy Horrorshow*]

I'm not being a church-going pansy here, please do not disrespect the way I feel about it. And it's not just the boys. A fourteen year-old GIRL asked the question about fingering. I think that if people have questions like that, they belong on a sex forum. cB doesn't have to be all smiles and hugs, but it shouldn't have topics about stuff like the above mentioned.
Excuse me, maturity has nothing to do with it. I'm not giggling or being offended by it, I'm simply inquiring because it IS a violation of the cb RULES. If you think that rules should be ignored, than you're the immature one. (I'm not calling you immature, I am only saying "if")

I'm not disrespecting the way you feel about this, but nohing you have reported me causes me concern, nor do I consider them to be out of the PG-13 range.

As Rebecca suggested, report posts individually. The problem here isn't that we dont have the rules to stop this 'problem', but rather that this is a judgement-call situation, and your judgement seems to differ from the majority's.

[*Monochrome.*]

I'm not being a church-going pansy here, please do not disrespect the way I feel about it. And it's not just the boys. A fourteen year-old GIRL asked the question about fingering. I think that if people have questions like that, they belong on a sex forum. cB doesn't have to be all smiles and hugs, but it shouldn't have topics about stuff like the above mentioned.
Excuse me, maturity has nothing to do with it. I'm not giggling or being offended by it, I'm simply inquiring because it IS a violation of the cb RULES. If you think that rules should be ignored, than you're the immature one. (I'm not calling you immature, I am only saying "if")

Maybe we might have to password protect the 2 forums so that it becomes private from the general public and IF you feel comfortable with mature content then you would just PM a staff member for the password.

Ive seen this on many other forums,and it works for them.The password is "click-at-your-own-risk".

[phoenixpyre]

Well, I understand that it may be uncontrollable, and I guess I can respect that, somewhat. It's just another one of those things in life that I cannot control.

[viugiufgjhfhjfhg...]

Hey, I actually AM a church going pansy..and I don't think anyone is disrespecting you..maybe just disagreeing.

We don't have a sex forum.

Also, wouldn't you rather that fourteen year old girl ask US what fingering is...rather then asking some old, pedophilic man and he has her learn by example?

I understand where are you trying to get, however, if anything, the internet is not precisely known by being clean of old pedophilic people >_>;. This is still an open forum and that should be taken into consideration before posting, as it has been said earlier in here.

[*brownsugar*]

But if someone is just ASKING what it is, how is that going to hurt them?

It's not like they are posting a picture of themselves attached with their address, and asking someone to come to their house and explain it.

It's a general question. Like, "What is a broom?"

All they are doing is gaining knowledge.

[viugiufgjhfhjfhg...]

But if someone is just ASKING what it is, how is that going to hurt them?

It's not like they are posting a picture of themselves attached with their address, and asking someone to come to their house and explain it.

It's a general question. Like, "What is a broom?"

All they are doing is gaining knowledge.

If people weren't hurt by some of the answers that can be found around Createblog, this topic wouldn't exist in the first place. I agree with Mipadi that there's always a risk when posting about certain subjects in an open Internet forum, and that before posting said probability of failure should be taken into consideration.

The fact that there's a more or so solid core of users in this community, doesn't mean the dictates of common sense should be put aside when deciding to post about certain topics while in the boards.

To continue with the example we were using, but purely out of curiosity: What kind of self-respecting pedophile would bother reading threads where 14 year old girls and boy discuss various masturbation techniques?

[shortnsweet88]

I think the only way to resolve this issue is create a rated r forum of some form. This is a bit ridiculous to me only because not everybody is always going to agree on whats pg-13 and not and to be quite honest I dont know how its soo offensive and if it actually offends you...dont participate...

[*Monochrome.*]

Maybe we might have to password protect the 2 forums so that it becomes private from the general public and IF you feel comfortable with mature content then you would just PM a staff member for the password.

Ive seen this on many other forums,and it works for them.The password is "click-at-your-own-risk".

I would understand if you saw topics explicitly describing sexual acts, or if there were images attached that are vulgar, but honestly I don't think it's that bad.

I've been to other forums that tag "NSFW" (not safe for work) for topics that are of questionable content, like what you said. Maybe we can enforce a rule to tag something like that with NSFW.

As for mod work, if someone doesn't know of the rule, it's not hard at all to edit a topic title to say NSFW.

Of course, the PG 13 rule will still be pertained.

2 really good ideas cB should consider.

[radhikaeatsraman]

I think we should just have a NSFW (not safe for work) forum where people can post whatever they'd like, and it could be password protected and a member could PM a staff member for the password like Diana said.

[phoenixpyre]

I doubt that would work. I don't think it's that I'm offended, I just thought there would be more... censorship about it, but as I realize now, that's both wrong and impossible.

This REALLY can be put to rest. I think the issue was... well settled.

[Simba]

Hm, I'm still kind of interested in the concept of a NSFW forum. I'm all about freedom of speech (if people can handle it).

However, would this become a free-for-all forum, or an order in which "Rated R" is allowed, but all other Community Guidelines (besides the PG-13 rule)? I personally would choose the latter, however much more lenient on the Community Guidelines.

After all, you enter the forum at your own risk.

[phoenixpyre]

Hm, I'm kind of interested in the concept of a NSFW forum. I'm all about freedom of speech (if people can handle it).

However, would this going to become a free-for-all forum, or an order in which "Rated R" is allowed, but all other Community Guidelines (besides the PG-13 rule)? I personally would choose the latter, however much more lenient on the Community Guidelines.

After all, you enter the forum at your own risk.

A-whole-nother forum may be a bit... eh

I don't think that's necessary. The topics in the locker room ARE relevant to a typical boys locker room i guess

[Simba]

A-whole-nother forum may be a bit... eh

Looking at the demographics of createBlog, I see what you mean.

[*disco infiltrator*]

I really don't think it's that big of a deal if the topics are made purely out of curiosity and not made in a way that could be construed as inappropriate. Those types of topics should be posted in the same wording and tone that one would take asking such questions to their parents. Personally, I take solace in the fact that I found out about such things before I had to encounter any of them in real life and condemn most school sex education programs because of it. Kids 11/12 and up should know what these things are (not that they should practice them at that age) so that it wouldn't be such a taboo and less jokes would be made about it because it wouldn't be a big deal. They would all know the functions and such. So, I think that CB is helping to cultivate a more mature teenage society by giving answers to younger people with such questions.

[viugiufgjhfhjfhg...]

Uninformed and inexperienced teenagers helping other uninformed and inexperienced teenagers; this should go on like a house on fire.

I would like to think that if people turn on to the Internet to talk about these things it isn't to actually learn about them, but instead to please their natural curiosity by writing about whatever topic they don't dare to bring up in a discussion outside of the Internet. I really wish to think that.

That being said, if we were to have a NSFW forum we could include a warning with regards its contents in the pop-up where we'd be asked for the log-in name/password. This way registering for that specific message board would mean that the user has read the warning and agrees to enter the NSFW forum at its own risk, without Createblog.com being held responsible in any way.

[Simba]

That being said, if we were to have a NSFW forum we could include a warning with regards its contents in the pop-up where we'd be asked for the log-in name/password. This way registering for that specific message board would mean that the user has read the warning and agrees to enter the NSFW forum at its own risk, without Createblog.com being held responsible in any way.

Exactly why I'm starting to like the idea of a NSFW forum.