is poverty our fault? Options

[sweetangel2128]

"I am not saying that money isn't good but I think a lot of people are just Greedy."

Yes, I did say that but I didn't say what you put. I never even put competition in that sentence. Read it again. Basically what I'm saying is that money isn't everything but a lot of people are greedy, meaning all they want is money.

[Kontroll]

Yes, I did say that but I didn't say what you put. I never even put competition in that sentence. Read it again. Basically what I'm saying is that money isn't everything but a lot of people are greedy, meaning all they want is money.

Therefore they will compete to get it. Hence my correlation.

[sweetangel2128]

Therefore they will compete to get it. Hence my correlation.

Your just mixing up what I'm trying to say so nevermind lol.

[Kontroll]

Your just mixing up what I'm trying to say so nevermind lol.

I think your hands are getting mixed up with your mind and what you really want to say.

You said that all people really want is money, and are greedy.

And I'm making a correlation[look it up] that those who are greedy will compete to get what they want.

[sweetangel2128]

I think your hands are getting mixed up with your mind and what you really want to say.

You said that all people really want is money, and are greedy.

And I'm making a correlation[look it up] that those who are greedy will compete to get what they want.

As I said nevermind, you are mixing up what I was saying, I never even mentioned competition. Yes true competition does happen but not always.

[kimmytree]

It's just a guilt trip to get us to donate to a charity, which most of the time take a portion out of the donation. So, if it was really important to feed the little ones over in Africa, why would these charities need to take a portion out of our donations? If they need that little fraction of our donation to survive as a charity, then they shouldn't be a charity at all. It should be the churches job to help the sick and poor and widowed.

Its sad how charities keep a portion of donations... but what if no one donated to charity? Donations definately make an impact. Not just with dying children and aids in Africa, but what about for research? Like the Cancer Society? National Heart Association? Donations to those types of organizations go towards vital medical research. As long as something's legitimate, and a person has money to spare, why not?

[sweetangel2128]

Its sad how charities keep a portion of donations... but what if no one donated to charity? Donations definately make an impact. Not just with dying children and aids in Africa, but what about for research? Like the Cancer Society? National Heart Association? Donations to those types of organizations go towards vital medical research. As long as something's legitimate, and a person has money to spare, why not?

Exactly. When I get a job and have left over money I plan to donate to a charity.

[jennyt13]

Its sad how charities keep a portion of donations... but what if no one donated to charity? Donations definately make an impact. Not just with dying children and aids in Africa, but what about for research? Like the Cancer Society? National Heart Association? Donations to those types of organizations go towards vital medical research. As long as somethings legitimate, and a person has money to spare, why not?

Exactly!!! i don't understand why the charities take a portion of the donation. the money isn't for them is for the people who need it. if the money was to them we would have donated our money to them saying they can have it. but yea as long as we're doing something that is helping people around the world why don't we do it. its not like if we donate we lose all our money. some people don't want to donate to charity because they're greedy. they think if they donate nothings going to happen and whats the point of donating money if it doesn't help the people who you are donating the money to? I'll tell you what because its the right thing to do!!!!! you don't really know where the money goes. you don't know if its actually helping them. so just donate just in case.

[sweetangel2128]

Exactly!!! i don't understand why the charities take a portion of the donation. the money isn't for them is for the people who need it. if the money was to them we would have donated our money to them saying they can have it. but yea as long as we're doing something that is helping people around the world why don't we do it. its not like if we donate we lose all our money. some people don't want to donate to charity because they're greedy. they think if they donate nothings going to happen and whats the point of donating money if it doesn't help the people who you are donating the money to? I'll tell you what because its the right thing to do!!!!! you don't really know where the money goes. you don't know if its actually helping them. so just donate just in case.

Your right but I think they take a percentage to keep that donation running kinda like a movie theatre, whatever they make they split profits with ect..I think it goes the same way with donations and other things. It should be all for the donation itself but I always think of it this way "every little bit counts".

[jennyt13]

Your right but I think they take a percentage to keep that donation running kinda like a movie theatre, whatever they make they split profits with ect..I think it goes the same way with donations and other things. It should be all for the donation itself but I always think of it this way "every little bit counts".

you're right about that. but if they need the charity to keep on running why dont they get money from the government?

[Simba]

Because the government is in debt a couple trillion dollars.

(Assuming you're talking about America.)

[jennyt13]

Because the government is in debt a couple trillion dollars.

(Assuming you're talking about America.)

yea i know that. but it doesnt stop them from buying billions of things this country will probally never need. and it doesnt stop them from pulling the troops out of iraq because they also cost money [not saying this in a bad way] WE NEED A NEW PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[viugiufgjhfhjfhg...]

I don't see the poverty problem as "someone's fault", since that would require a moral reason as a fundamental cause, and I doubt that's the case.

At a first though, I would look for social, educational, economical and political causes of poverty first. Since a group of humans that lacks a solid social structure, a sufficient number of skilled members, organizational power as well as extra resources to "invest" for development purposes is less likely to be successful than another group that has these elemental needs covered.

That doesn't mean it isn't possible to keep the poor in poverty for immoral reasons; Barcelona's highway belt seems to be designed to leave the poor suburbs without direct access to the rest of the city, for example. However, it is better to scratch the surface first.

[jennyt13]

I don't see the poverty problem as "someone's fault", since that would require a moral reason as a fundamental cause, and I doubt that's the case.

At a first though, I would look for social, educational, economical and political causes of poverty first. Since a group of humans that lacks a solid social structure, a sufficient number of skilled members, organizational power as well as extra resources to "invest" for development purposes is less likely to be successful than another group that has these elemental needs covered.

That doesn't mean it isn't possible to keep the poor in poverty for immoral reasons; Barcelona's highway belt seems to be designed to leave the poor suburbs without direct access to the rest of the city, for example. However, it is better to scratch the surface first.

ok whatever you said i totally 100% agree with you but...................... too many big words! lol

[sweetangel2128]

you're right about that. but if they need the charity to keep on running why dont they get money from the government?

Honestly? Well for one the government makes us pay tax dollars so they can earn more money, I am sure they have plenty of money but they very greedy.

[Kontroll]

you're right about that. but if they need the charity to keep on running why dont they get money from the government?

Because we'd still be paying for it through taxes. It's not like the government makes new crisp 100 dollar bills every month.

[jennyt13]

Honestly? Well for one the government makes us pay tax dollars so they can earn more money, I am sure they have plenty of money but they very greedy.

they are really greedy. even thoughthey have all that money they still dont support any charity funds that i know off. lets face is the government needs a makeover

[sweetangel2128]

they are really greedy. even thoughthey have all that money they still dont support any charity funds that i know off. lets face is the government needs a makeover

Yeah they do but I doubt that will ever happen

[Simba]

The government works objectively more so than morally or "emotionally."

"If you don't contribute by having a job, you don't deserve money."

[jennyt13]

ok ppl. STOP USING SUCH BIG WORDS!!! some of us arent as smart as the others so plz dont use such big words

[sweetangel2128]

ok ppl. STOP USING SUCH BIG WORDS!!! some of us arent as smart as the others so plz dont use such big words

HAHA. Yeah I agree,

[xBUTTMUNCHx]

Yes and No, depends on your situation.
if i had money to donate i would. i dont like proverty...at fault or not...but thats the fairy tale part of me.

[jennyt13]

i understand where you're coming from but in a way poverty is our fault we spend hundreds, thousands and sometimes millions on things we dont need while there're people out there that are working their ass off just to make enough money for food. and sometimes its the govenment fault for overlooking this fact and sometimes its our fault for not giving a damn about other people except for ourselves.

[Mystic Eyes]

I don't get this whole fairy tale nonsense. It's not fairy tale to be optimistic and positive. If so, so what.

Anyways, poverty has always been around, it's unfortunate and off course governments tend to have their own agenda's when it comes to helping poorer countries. At least some effort has been put into lowering poverty.

[michellerrific]

In my opinion, poverty isn't in our control that much, but more of the government's fault. As of now, they're using majority of the tax money or other federal funds toward things like the war. A lot of that money could help out poor communities. Although I'm not exactly with all this political stuff, that's what I think based on logic.

But then again, who are the people living IN poverty? How did they get themselves there? Drugs? Teenage families? Jail time? (I'm not counting the people who have grown up in poverty all their lives, or through family) It's also their own fault for landing themselves there. If they were more cautious of how they live, maybe we would have less people in poverty.

Oprah, by the way, used to live in poverty when she was young. Now she's one of the richest people. Idk if that was very relevant, but oh well, just a side note.