Bush vs. Kerry: who will win?, you're opinions Options

[onenonly101]

I don't think anyone can say who WILL win, but who we think will/might win

[ComradeRed]

I will bet you any amount of money that Kerry wins the election. I'm not even a democrat, but the cards are horribly stacked against Bush.

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT...2004/mock04.php

Mock Election.

[onenonly101]

I don't bet, esp on un certain things. It doesn't matter what anyone says it doesn't mean Kerry will win or Bush will win. We will have to wait and see. Alot of people believed Gore would be president right now

[ComradeRed]

The polls are clearly in favor of Kerry. THe Third Party vote is going to massacre Bush. I never believed that the Election of 2000 was certain, but this election will certainly go to Kerry. Bush's approval rating is in the Low-40s and dropping. One out of every four Republicans polled still has not committed his/her vote. The closest elections historically have always been sandwhiched between two landslides. 1996 was something of a landslide. 2004 will be too.

[strice]

god damnit why hasn't anyone said "I are opinion" yet?!

[Yemmerz]

Think about what would happen if something like 9-11 occured [God forbid] while Kerry ran? Bush was so calm...he handled it very well I believe. Kerry would of gone on about peace, which is good and all, and how we shouldn't have any military action. We'd be dead by the time he got to his point. Basically what I am saying is that the country doesn't need a president like Kerry while we are dealing with the situation of Iraq. Maybe when everything is resolved....POSSIBLY Kerry can win. But even if we didn't have this whole war situation, Bush would win. Look what he's done for the country Minda PERFECTLY laid out why. You should go past to his post and read it.

[glit_gal]

I would like to say kerry, but honestly he doesn't come out as someone INTERESTING so unfortunately bush

[Yemmerz]

don't base your vote on...
-race
-personality
-religion
-popular vote
-how rich he or she[one day....] is.

just some things to consider.

[ComradeRed]

Think about what would happen if something like 9-11 occured [God forbid] while Kerry ran? Bush was so calm...he handled it very well I believe. Kerry would of gone on about peace, which is good and all, and how we shouldn't have any military action. We'd be dead by the time he got to his point. Basically what I am saying is that the country doesn't need a president like Kerry while we are dealing with the situation of Iraq. Maybe when everything is resolved....POSSIBLY Kerry can win. But even if we didn't have this whole war situation, Bush would win. Look what he's done for the country Minda PERFECTLY laid out why. You should go past to his post and read it.

You can argue that Bush is a better president, that's fine, but this is Minda, and I firmly believe that Kerry will win. Here's why:

1) Third Party Vote: In some states, the Libertarian and Constitution parties are polling as high as 4 and 5%... this is even higher than Nader did in 2000. What Nader did to Gore in 2000, Badnarik and Petrouka will do to Bush now. Many conservatives (Republicans) have already abandoned the Bush camp, because Bush IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE. In 1992, Bush's dad lost precisely because all the Conservatives voted for Ross Perot. This is what will happen again. The Libertarian Party especially. The LP is twice the size of the Green Party, and Badnarik is popular among many state organizations in the key battlegrounds of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. Many conservatives in those states regard Bush and Kerry as equally bad (un-conservative), and thus will see that voting for either of them is throwing away their vote.

2) War: The Iraq War used to be popular, but now it's not. It's increasingly becoming a quagmire. Some Congressmen have even proposed a draft. Drafts are NEVER popular in America, and one TODAY is going to be even less popular. Even though Kerry supports the draft, people are going to instinctively vote against the war to vote against the draft, and that means against Bush. Bush's approval is in the mid-40s and dropping... this is almost as bad as Jimmy Carter, and Carter was annihilated in a landslide in 1980 by Ronald Reagan.

3) Jobs: Face it. I think outsoucring is good for the economy. But most steel workers don't. If they vote for Kerry, that could turn the key state of Ohio. If Bush loses Ohio, he loses the election.

4) Credibility: Bush might run as an honest, homegrown Southerner, but the fact remains that he broke just about all of his campaign promises. He promised to slash spending. He actually raised social spending more than ANY OTHER PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY. He promised a more humble foreign policy. He invaded Iraq, leading to the death of hundreds of American soldiers and untold tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians and human rights atrocities. He promised a balanced budget. We now have a bigger deficit than ever. Read point 1. All the far-right conservatives hate him for all of this.

I think Kerry will not be a good president. I despise Kerry. I despise Bush too, but not as much. But in the end, I think that it is clear that Kerry will win the election.

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT...2004/mock04.php
Go there, and vote in the mock election. Good fun.

[Yemmerz]

wait i thought you were for bush [?]....gosh im lost.

[ComradeRed]

I'm not for Bush, I'm against Kerry. Similarly, most democrats are not for Kerry, they are against Bush. It's a subtle but very important distinction. In WWII, for example, we fought with the Reds, but we weren't pro-Stalin, we were anti-Hitler.

Who I think SHOULD win has nothing to do with who I think WILL win. I think Michael Badnark, US Libertarian Party SHOULD win, but I highly doubt he WILL. You see the distinction? If I had to choose between Bush and Kerry, I would probably choose Bush, because I have a 100% guarantee (almost) that Bush will not be re-elected in 2008.