Denominational Problems, How does yours stand up? |
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Denominational Problems, How does yours stand up? |
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Well, that's what I'm trying to say, that we shouldn't interpret the way God didn't intend. But my Question is why would he want us to interpret our own way, meaning our own "meaning" rather then understand basically what he was trying to say? VERY well put. I enjoyed reading what you had to say ![]() Well, we can't interpret His word in His way because He never "told" us how to interpret it. The only thing we can do is interpret it the best we can. Therefore, as long as you're trying your best to interpret it in the way that you believe God meant the Bible was to be interpreted you should be ok. Just because you to listen and interpret the Bible the way Pentecostals (I think that's what you are) interpret the Bible doesn't mean that it's correct. For all we know God could have meant certain text in the Bible to mean something that neither of us believe it means... How do you know what the right meaning is? The only thing you can do is interpret the text to the best of your ability. Isn't that what you're doing right now, interpreting the text that you're reading? At this very moment you are trying to figure what I'm trying to say by interpreting the text that you are reading to the best of your ability. You are trying to find out what I'm trying to say. How often do you take things that the members of cB say out of context? I think that you would be surprised at how often you do. You don't see the expressions or emotions that the members are expressing while you look at the faint blue background with black text. You can only make an educated guess at what exactly they meant by words they used to express what their thoughts were at the time they emptied them into their keyboard. |
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The possibility of misinterpretation is always there when there is no bona fide teacher and/or faith from the heart. Simply reading the scripts and automatically understanding what God wanted you to know is as good as impossible. There will be the need for interpretation every time, and your interpretation may not always be the same as someone else's interpretation. I mean, if you look at some scriptures that include explanations in them (for example, Bhagavad Gita As It Is), a verse may only be about one sentence, but the explanations are usually much, much longer. I get what your saying but a lot of the Bible isn't really up for interpretation, it is pretty clear what he means when he says something, I mean in a lot of verses you can look right at a line and say "Yeah that makes sense, I get what they are saying" unless of course your reading the King James Version which is a bit harder to understand which is why I have both that one and the New Living Translation. Well, we can't interpret His word in His way because He never "told" us how to interpret it. The only thing we can do is interpret it the best we can. Therefore, as long as you're trying your best to interpret it in the way that you believe God meant the Bible was to be interpreted you should be ok. Just because you to listen and interpret the Bible the way Pentecostals (I think that's what you are) interpret the Bible doesn't mean that it's correct. For all we know God could have meant certain text in the Bible to mean something that neither of us believe it means... How do you know what the right meaning is? The only thing you can do is interpret the text to the best of your ability. Isn't that what you're doing right now, interpreting the text that you're reading? At this very moment you are trying to figure what I'm trying to say by interpreting the text that you are reading to the best of your ability. You are trying to find out what I'm trying to say. How often do you take things that the members of cB say out of context? I think that you would be surprised at how often you do. You don't see the expressions or emotions that the members are expressing while you look at the faint blue background with black text. You can only make an educated guess at what exactly they meant by words they used to express what their thoughts were at the time they emptied them into their keyboard. I am not taking things out of context for one. And secondly, some verses are pretty clear on what there meanings are but people change them around such as Jesus being the son of God and not being God at all, it's pretty clear in a lot of verses that Jesus is in fact God in the flesh. As for Pentacostals, they teach the true word of God and don't leave stuff out and don't add things to it. I am a follower of Jesus and that is all I like to be called. I am not really a pentacostal but I guess you would call me one since I plan on going to there church. Ps: You say that pentacostals are not exactly right well either are other religions. |
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I get what your saying but a lot of the Bible isn't really up for interpretation, it is pretty clear what he means when he says something, I mean in a lot of verses you can look right at a line and say "Yeah that makes sense, I get what they are saying" unless of course your reading the King James Version which is a bit harder to understand which is why I have both that one and the New Living Translation. I am not taking things out of context for one. And secondly, some verses are pretty clear on what there meanings are but people change them around such as Jesus being the son of God and not being God at all, it's pretty clear in a lot of verses that Jesus is in fact God in the flesh. As for Pentacostals, they teach the true word of God and don't leave stuff out and don't add things to it. I am a follower of Jesus and that is all I like to be called. I am not really a pentacostal but I guess you would call me one since I plan on going to there church. Ps: You say that pentacostals are not exactly right well either are other religions. Some verses are clear, and some verses aren't. Some things are implied, and some things aren't implied. Everything I'm writing to you right now implies that I have understood everything you are writing to me. When you're reading the Bible, how do you know that you have understood everything the way it was meant to be understood 100%. "The New Living Translation" is just another interpretation of the text found in the Bible. How do you know that they aren't taking certain text of the Bible out of context? You can't possibly know with 100% certainty that every verse in "The New Living Translation" Bible is translated the way it was meant to be read. It's impossible. There are sections of the Bible that are clear, sections like "The Ten Commandments" or "John 3:16" are obvious in their meaning, and there are sections of uncertainty. Those areas are up for interpretation. Just because you interpret those verse in the way that you see best fit doesn't make them right. It only makes them interpreted in the best way you see fit. My way of interpreting those verses aren't any more right than yours. By the way, the "P.S." you added was exactly what I'm trying to say. There is no point in arguing what Denomination is better. We are all trying to follow the Word of God to the best of our ability, and this is what matters most that we love God enough to want to understand Him to the best of our ability. This is exactly why I choose to be non-denominational. |
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Some verses are clear, and some verses aren't. Some things are implied, and some things aren't implied. Everything I'm writing to you right now implies that I have understood everything you are writing to me. When you're reading the Bible, how do you know that you have understood everything the way it was meant to be understood 100%. "The New Living Translation" is just another interpretation of the text found in the Bible. How do you know that they aren't taking certain text of the Bible out of context? You can't possibly know with 100% certainty that every verse in "The New Living Translation" Bible is translated the way it was meant to be read. It's impossible. There are sections of the Bible that are clear, sections like "The Ten Commandments" or "John 3:16" are obvious in their meaning, and there are sections of uncertainty. Those areas are up for interpretation. Just because you interpret those verse in the way that you see best fit doesn't make them right. It only makes them interpreted in the best way you see fit. My way of interpreting those verses aren't any more right than yours. By the way, the "P.S." you added was exactly what I'm trying to say. There is no point in arguing what Denomination is better. We are all trying to follow the Word of God to the best of our ability, and this is what matters most that we love God enough to want to understand Him to the best of our ability. This is exactly why I choose to be non-denominational. Your right. It shouldn't matter how we live for God as long as were living for him right? All, I am saying is yeah we interpret certain verses different ways but what I'm saying you can't take a VERY clear verse and change it around. For an example of what I mean: I had an argument with my ex friend (hence she's my ex because religion tore us apart, not God but religion). Anyways....in the Bible it says that you shouldn't be around un-believers, my ex friend used that against me because I am in a relationship with a man who is not a believer and I am a believer...she made it sound like a sin and used it as a reason to protect herself...you see, she judged my relationship and began telling me that it shouldn't happen. Basically, when she looks at the verse in the Bible stating this, she sees it as a sin but God doesn't state that it is a sin, he just points it out so what I get out of it and I did tell her this is that it is a warning to let people know if they do enter a relationship like this be prepared for what "might" happen, he didn't say "You can't do it or it's a sin". That's what I mean when people interpret things the "wrong" way. Or when someone reads a verse and says Jesus isn't God...but in another verse it clearly states he is by saying - "The Word meaning God came into our world in the flesh"..ect... As for the New Living Translation..no because I use both books and sometimes will read 1 John in one and then read the same one in the other which will help me make more sense when I read the King James Version, they are no different from eachother, the New Living Translation is just much easier to understand in our terms. But they didn't make up stuff. |
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