I swear I'm being honest Options

[*Libertie*]

^Yeah, sad thing is I've known all along and never really cared to change it. ._.

[*Uronacid*]

^Yeah, sad thing is I've known all along and never really cared to change it. ._.

Meh, changeing yourself is hard, and the only time you should ever change yourself is for yourself. If you don't care... nothing is gong to happen. XD Don't beat yourself up, it's never to late to start.

I have things that I'm working on too. We all have our flaws. ;]

[Detective]

Im Honest as i can be.

[*I Viddy Horrorshow*]

What are you talking about? I think you're just taking me out of context. I was just telling why don't like you so hopefully we could look past what happened. Maybe we could talk about it. Maybe we could make things right, but no... you just take another stab at making me look bad.

I didn't take anything out of context, I responded directly to what you said. And I'm not trying to make you look bad. I don't need to. But it's nice to see the victim complex going strong.

And Jeremy, be quiet... you're at least generally witty, and you can do better than that.

[*Uronacid*]

ugh... I will edit this later... :]

[Jeng]

Clear to the point, well not exactly, but I try. And am.

[*Intercourse.*]

James and Josh quit it now please. If you want to talk further on this just PM each other.

[*Uronacid*]

I didn't take anything out of context, I responded directly to what you said. And I'm not trying to make you look bad. I don't need to. But it's nice to see the victim complex going strong.

And Jeremy, be quiet... you're at least generally witty, and you can do better than that.

James, I did feel like a victim. I feel like I was a victim of my own honesty. During that hiring season you were the biggest prick in the world to me. I feel as if I was never honest about my opinions you would have never been such a dick to me. I feel as if I had just agreed with everyone else (a.k.a. Not said anything negative.) and if I had been nice you and your "friends" then you wouldn't have said any of the shit you said to me.

I was never a jerk to the members of this site until that point. You and your friends pissed me off so bad, and people told me not to care. People told me over and over again that I shouldn't care what people say to me on the internet because it doesn't matter. "Grow thicker skin.", Now people are upset because I don't care. So, I'm trying to make things right, and the minute I feel like I should care. You remind me of every reason I don't. I don't care because the things that you say would really effect the way I feel.

Maybe I shouldn't have taken revenge. After all, revenge is never a good thing. I'm sorry for taking revenge on you James. I'm sorry for ever talking to you. I should have ignored everything you ever said to me. It's unfortunate for me that you're one of the most "popular" figures on cB, and it's unfortunate that I cared about this site when you offended me.

You know, I was wrong about Kathleen, and I personally apologized for what I said to her after she was removed from staff. But I will not apologize to her for what I said in that hiring thread. I meant every word. Here is what I posted.

Kathleen - seems power hungry, she has made entire topics devoted to what I consider ratting people out... she also constantly talk about how the job hasn't been getting done... I'm worried that she will be a major tyrant, and thorn in our sides... application seems pretty conceited I'm a supervisor at my job in crossgates mall, and I throw out applications like this... I feel that people like this start problems in the work place.

It may seem like i dislike you Kathleen, but... truth is, I feel like you advertise yourself... You rat people out for things, tell mods to close topics, and talk about how great you are all the time... it's rediculous... I don't hate you, I just don't like how you carry yourself, and I don't see anyone else asking for the position acting the way you do... i question your ability to be a staff member even though you have been one in the past. I believe being a staff member is something that needs to be earned by having a professional attitude. I don't think you have that. Then again, I am only stating my opinion, and will not be offended by your opinion of me.

Is that really offensive enough to ravage me on the forums? I even put a disclaimer in the post saying that I didn't hate her. It was as if I had triggered a land-slide of insults... YES JAMES I FEEL LIKE A VICTIM. If I didn't feel like you attacked me I wouldn't have hated on you so much.

Ever sense that post I have received nothing but grief from you, and you have received nothing but grief from me. Here I am being honest about how I feel, and you're "calling me out" in an attempt to publicly make me look bad. I'm just so sick of it.

You're on peoples staff... don't you think that someone from people staff should have a good understanding of conflict management. I sure do. You're working with people. I have finally made a move to make things right between us by expressing my feelings towards the way you treated me, and you just use it to make me look like shit. I'm so sick of you James. All I'm trying to do is level with you. I feel as if you're fighting with me.

*I am pissed, this is the first time in a while... I actually care again... This is why I don't care about what anyone thinks when I post... Because when you start caring it becomes real.*

[*WHIMSICAL 0NE*]

I'm honest. I can be really blunt. Sometimes in real life I'll offend people, but I'm just being honest. I don't have friends on cb, so I don't have anyone to go along with. There's a difference with being honesty and blatant.

[viugiufgjhfhjfhg...]

At first thought I would say I have always tried to post honestly here at first, although that may not assure my posts do follow a unique coherent line. In other words, I try to post what I do feel and think at the moment of writing even though the product of said effort may differ from something I might have posted in the past.

Then again, following a general style doesn't mean the same specific result will be achieved over and over; which is in fact why all Pavement albums are so awesome, but that'd be another subject.

EDIT:

*I am pissed, this is the first time in a while... I actually care again... This is why I don't care about what anyone thinks when I post... Because when you start caring it becomes real.*

There's a middle ground between caring and being affected by the stuff that goes on in here. Admittedly, it can be a thin line sometimes, but nonetheless it's worth the effort to try to stand behind it as long as it's humanly possible to do so.

It may not always make the person/s you're exchanging posts with to calm down, but it allows you to stay cool and not say things that you have to regret later while still getting your point across.

In reference to this topic and to something you told me a few weeks ago; it is possible to be honest and leave sufficient outlet for happiness, anger, joy or whatever it is that one may be feeling at the moment while trying to keep things under some sort of control.

It's kind of staying in the middle of "f**k you all bastards, this is the Internet" and "Holy shit, I hope they don't get pissed off at my Snoopy themed signature"

[*Uronacid*]

At first thought I would say I have always tried to post honestly here at first, although that may not assure my posts do follow a unique coherent line. In other words, I try to post what I do feel and think at the moment of writing even though the product of said effort may differ from something I might have posted in the past.

Then again, following a general style doesn't mean the same specific result will be achieved over and over; which is in fact why all Pavement albums are so awesome, but that'd be another subject.

EDIT:
There's a middle ground between caring and being affected by the stuff that goes on in here. Admittedly, it can be a thin line sometimes, but nonetheless it's worth the effort to try to stand behind it as long as it's humanly possible to do so.

It may not always make the person/s you're exchanging posts with to calm down, but it allows you to stay cool and not say things that you have to regret later while still getting your point across.

In reference to this topic and to something you told me a few weeks ago; it is possible to be honest and leave sufficient outlet for happiness, anger, joy or whatever it is that one may be feeling at the moment while trying to keep things under some sort of control.

It's kind of staying in the middle of "f**k you all bastards, this is the Internet" and "Holy shit, I hope they don't get pissed off at my Snoopy themed signature"

Ugh.. you have no idea how hard I'm trying...

[viugiufgjhfhjfhg...]

Ugh.. you have no idea how hard I'm trying...

Took me a year, give or take, to go from "shut your piehole, rampaging idiot" to "I disagree".

[*Uronacid*]

Took me a year, give or take, to go from "shut your piehole, rampaging idiot" to "I disagree".

Well, it's almost been that long.. >.>

[*I Viddy Horrorshow*]

James, I did feel like a victim. I feel like I was a victim of my own honesty. During that hiring season you were the biggest prick in the world to me. I feel as if I was never honest about my opinions you would have never been such a dick to me. I feel as if I had just agreed with everyone else (a.k.a. Not said anything negative.) and if I had been nice you and your "friends" then you wouldn't have said any of the shit you said to me.

I was never a jerk to the members of this site until that point. You and your friends pissed me off so bad, and people told me not to care. People told me over and over again that I shouldn't care what people say to me on the internet because it doesn't matter. "Grow thicker skin.", Now people are upset because I don't care. So, I'm trying to make things right, and the minute I feel like I should care. You remind me of every reason I don't. I don't care because the things that you say would really effect the way I feel.

Maybe I shouldn't have taken revenge. After all, revenge is never a good thing. I'm sorry for taking revenge on you James. I'm sorry for ever talking to you. I should have ignored everything you ever said to me. It's unfortunate for me that you're one of the most "popular" figures on cB, and it's unfortunate that I cared about this site when you offended me.

You know, I was wrong about Kathleen, and I personally apologized for what I said to her after she was removed from staff. But I will not apologize to her for what I said in that hiring thread. I meant every word. Here is what I posted.
Is that really offensive enough to ravage me on the forums? I even put a disclaimer in the post saying that I didn't hate her. It was as if I had triggered a land-slide of insults... YES JAMES I FEEL LIKE A VICTIM. If I didn't feel like you attacked me I wouldn't have hated on you so much.

Ever sense that post I have received nothing but grief from you, and you have received nothing but grief from me. Here I am being honest about how I feel, and you're "calling me out" in an attempt to publicly make me look bad. I'm just so sick of it.

You're on peoples staff... don't you think that someone from people staff should have a good understanding of conflict management. I sure do. You're working with people. I have finally made a move to make things right between us by expressing my feelings towards the way you treated me, and you just use it to make me look like shit. I'm so sick of you James. All I'm trying to do is level with you. I feel as if you're fighting with me.

*I am pissed, this is the first time in a while... I actually care again... This is why I don't care about what anyone thinks when I post... Because when you start caring it becomes real.*

Dudem what on Earth did we even say to you? Because frankly, if I can barely remember the incident at all, and nothing whatsoever of what was said, it can't have been that bad.

This whole thing just reminds me of people who complain that people don't like them in spite of the fact that they are 'just being themselves'. Yes, you were honest, fine. We were honest back. As I've said, and people have said before, get over it.

And as for disliking you, I don't, really. You're genuinely not interesting enough to dislike, because a good chunk of whatever I see you say is always related to peopl enot liking you. You just made a thread about it, for goodness sake. It's just pure self-obsession, and I'm not interested. I don't hate you, certainly, and I don't go out of my way to step on your toes. But if you stick your toes out where I'm walking, they get stepped on.

And as for conflict management, firstly I hardly think this is worhty of the title of conflict, but that nonwthstanding, I feel I've handled you rather well, whcih is what others have told me, and also, there comes a time when the only way to end a conflict is for you to take it away. You don't like the way I handle whatever issue it is you think I have with you, then stop perpetuating it.

And I'm done with this conversation now, because unless something remarkable happens, it's going to go in the same old circles.

[*Uronacid*]

Dudem what on Earth did we even say to you? Because frankly, if I can barely remember the incident at all, and nothing whatsoever of what was said, it can't have been that bad.

This whole thing just reminds me of people who complain that people don't like them in spite of the fact that they are 'just being themselves'. Yes, you were honest, fine. We were honest back. As I've said, and people have said before, get over it.

And as for disliking you, I don't, really. You're genuinely not interesting enough to dislike, because a good chunk of whatever I see you say is always related to peopl enot liking you. You just made a thread about it, for goodness sake. It's just pure self-obsession, and I'm not interested. I don't hate you, certainly, and I don't go out of my way to step on your toes. But if you stick your toes out where I'm walking, they get stepped on.

And as for conflict management, firstly I hardly think this is worhty of the title of conflict, but that nonwthstanding, I feel I've handled you rather well, whcih is what others have told me, and also, there comes a time when the only way to end a conflict is for you to take it away. You don't like the way I handle whatever issue it is you think I have with you, then stop perpetuating it.

And I'm done with this conversation now, because unless something remarkable happens, it's going to go in the same old circles.

In that thread all you did was insult my intelligence and grammar/spelling skills, but you didn't do it in a way that was constructive. You insulted me in front of the entire community. You did it to make me look bad. It sure seems like you go out of your way to make me look bad James. It seems like that's all you do is step on my toes and I'm so friggin sick of it. That's what you do.

Even in this post, I feel like you go out of your way to insult my personality by calling me self-righteous, or turn what I'm trying to do around so I look bad. It always seems like a personal attack with you James. I will admit to doing the same. It's this circle of personal attacks that flying at each other. I would just like it to end, but I want to end up on the right foot too.

You have this perception of me that just isn't true (I'm self-obsessed), and every post I make you hold me to this expectation you have, taking it out of context. It seems like you read everything I post as if I'm this self-righteous a-hole. I'm not trying to make a spectical of myself. I'm just trying to resolve this. I might sound self-righteous, but I guarantee you that I'm not.

You're wrong James, it is a conflict Jame. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOU. That's a conflict. To me it just feels like you're consistently being clever with words in an attempt to make me look bad. I feel like your putting on a show for your friends. I don't feel like it's the best way to resolve something.

You're right, there does come a time in a conflict when you have to take it away. Maybe you don't want to resolve anything. It takes two to resolve things, and when one isn't willing to do it. It never happens.

Look, I'll admit that I shouldn't have said a lot of the things I said to you, and I'm sorry. I'll admit that most of the time I antagonize you, but this time I swear, I'm not. Please, just stop having holding this defensive position, and start being real with me.

P.S. Don't you think that acting like I'm a waste of time is a bit of a self-righteous attitude? I'm trying to work things out with you... personally I just don't find that to be self righteous.

[*mona lisa*]

Ok, now it's just getting personal. If you can settle your personal issues (or not, I see it's not going to be easy) and keep them both out of your posts and this thread, it would be appreciated.

[*I Viddy Horrorshow*]

A conflict is two-sided. This is just bluster.

And mona, aye-aye cap'n

[Kontroll]

That's dumb that people said that you shouldn't be so honest. Gay.

Yes, I'm honest. It's the internet, why not be honest? It's not like you have to stare some one in the face five feet away.

I'm pretty much honest in RL too. Some what. Maybe a little. Actually not that much. Hahahhaha.

[Rachel]

cB lets me feel open about anything.

I feel the same way. I don't really feel the need to lie on an internet forum when I am most likely never going to meet any of you. Like Jane said, I am sometimes too lazy to explain who was in the situation and might just say it was me, but I don't really consider it lying.

I also feel as though there is a difference between honesty and being blunt. Some people are blunt to make it seem as though they are honest, while others of us (like myself, James, Josh etc) are just actually asses

[AngryBaby]

im pretty honest. i got a few most blunt votes before. if i wasnt, cb would be lame.

[*Uronacid*]

im pretty honest. i got a few most blunt votes before. if i wasnt, cb would be lame.

I agree... *sigh*

[*Azarel*]

Much of truth is subjective, so why should it matter if we're honest or not? What matter really is the reasoning behind decisions/opinions and how we present ourselves and our arguments because that is what other people will believe/judge.

[...Lost.In.Life....]

i am reali honest

answer this.....

what is better to tell a lie to draw a smile or tell the truth to draw a tear??

in most situations i woul dtell the truth