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RACISM! :D, AGAIN!
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post Feb 23 2007, 03:49 PM
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Many of you have lost your minds over the past week regarding "racist remarks", and use of Chris Rock's career-breaking comedy skit "Black people vs. N******." Well instead of freaking out on all of you, the same way you did to me. I decided to educate myself on the causes and effects of racism, something that all of you who freaked out failed to do, and prepare this essay for your personal pleasure.

What is a racist?


First off, what is a racist? As it is something many of you accuse me of being, I asked a few of the accusers in the chat room what made me a racist and none of them could say anything aside from the actual statement, “You are a racist.” A racially prejudiced person is someone who holds a negative and personal bias against someone for their race; acting upon this personal bias is what leads to racial discrimination, and racism is the incorporation or combination of activities and procedures of major institutions, corporations, social systems, or other arenas of major social activity with the discrimination of a race.

What causes people to be Racist


Second, why are people racist? A study done in 1990 found that a large percentage of whites believe or speculate minorities to be less intelligent, and that minorities would rather be on welfare than work a job. Why do people have this mindset? I have read on many of the websites I visited that racist views had to do with competition. After all, isn’t that what so many people have defined life to be? How many times have you heard of life being referred to as a game? Hasbro knows. They invented it (The Game of Life). People view life as a game all the time. Do you think that racism might be a way for people to “stomp out the competition”? I thought to myself about this question. What do people compete for?

People compete for a variety of reasons, and you will find plenty of these reasons right here on cB. We compete because we are selfish human beings with the instinct to survive. I know you won’t die from failing to compete, but you will be disappointed in yourself. Competition is a way to protect yourself both intropersonally (your self-image) and interpersonally (the way other people view you).

As a German philosopher, Frederick Engels, explained, “Competition is the completest expression of the battle...which rules in modern civil society. This battle, a battle for life, for existence, for everything, in case of need a battle of life and death, is fought not between the different classes of society only, but also between the individual members of those classes. Each is in the way of the other, and each seeks to crowd out all who are in his way, and to put himself in their place.”

For example, someone might tear you down at school by making fun of your weight or your personality in front of their peers, but really it makes him/her feel better about himself/herself because it helps him/her believe that he/she is better than you (when in the grand scheme of things this is not the case). I recently observed members busting balls in cB chat by talking down to others and receive praise from their peers for doing it. Why do they do this? Competition. They feel better about themselves by acting like idiots because their peers praise them with laughter. This is not a complaint, this is the truth.

In the same way people tear others down to make themselves feel better, racists tear people of a certain race down in efforts to build up their own social class. People compete by finding the differences between groups, exploiting a group’s weakness, and comparing the weakness to their own strengths. For example, if something like hard work is valued within a social class, than this social class may exploit examples of laziness in another social class. This particular example is often observed when people associate minorities with the abuse of government programs such as Welfare. Focusing on these comparisons will make the people belonging to the social class or group feel better about themselves.

More examples:
  • The “emo” group often refers to the “prep” group as “stuck-up” because they value the idea or concept of “being original”.
  • The “prep” group often refers to the “emo” group as if they are “cry-babies” because they see themselves as “strong.”
  • The “geek” group often refers to inferior groups as “unintelligent” because they value intelligence.
  • The “down-to-earth” group talks down to people who refer to themselves or act as if they are part a group because they value not being in a group even though they actually belong to one.
People enter into these groups because groups make them feel better about themselves; it gives people a sense of belonging. Social groups tend to harbor people who share similar faults. Faults somehow disappear when a large number of people share them with you. They disappear because we begin to believe that most people share those problems anyway. In reality, we only perceive this to be true because the people we associate with share those problems with us. As it is said, “You are who you hang out with.”

These groups of individuals feed racism. I’ll explain, and I’ll use my case as an example. I have been constantly treated like garbage in my inner-city neighborhood, and I feel as if it’s in part because I am part of the only white family on my street. I don’t even talk to people on my street, yet they break into my home, address me using racial slurs, and disrespect me on a weekly, if not daily, basis. This may be a small percentage of African Americans, but due to personal experience with this particular group of disrespectful African Americans I’m given the illusion that a much higher percentage of this minority is the same way even though the majority of them aren’t that way.

Your brain makes daily decisions using logical operators. These logical operators are formed due to daily experiences and put into categories for use as shortcuts when making daily decisions. For example, you know not to touch a hot stove. You don’t need to analyze the science behind why that stove is hot and why you’re not supposed to touch it; you just know you shouldn’t touch things that are hot. “Hot” might be one of those categories in your brain.

Much of the activity that goes on in your brain is subconscious; you aren’t even aware that you are thinking. Similar to an involuntary reaction, only these thoughts are learned via life experience. In my case, the average African American I come into contact with in my neighborhood treats me like garbage. Due to the visual difference in the pigment of their skin, when I see a black person I get the urge to avoid them. Similar to the “hot stove” example, my brain is protecting me. Your brain doesn’t just protect you from physical harm; your brain protects you from mental harm. Disrespect causes mental harm because it gives an individual a lower self-esteem.

Because these thoughts are subconscious, they can cause you to become prejudiced without being racist. Prejudice is a personal bias against a stereo type, and racism is acting upon that prejudice. This is what I’m talking about when I say that I am not racist. I definitely harbor a subconscious prejudice against African Americans, I will admit that, but I do not do this on purpose. I fight to treat individuals fairly. When I state, “I will think twice before hiring an African American”, I’m merely being honest. I am forced to think twice because the first thoughts that enter into my mind are subconscious thoughts of prejudice. I have to think twice because I need to set those thoughts aside to make a fair decision. Is it ok to harbor prejudice and make an attempt to treat everyone equally?

Quoted directly from the American Psychological Association, “just because stereotypes can operate automatically and outside of awareness, that does not mean that there is nothing we can do about them. Keeping prejudice and stereotypes to ourselves is not a good way to deal with them. One of the best things to do is to confront them to push through the anxiety we feel about being prejudiced and racist and discuss these issues honestly with others.” This was exactly what I did, and you condemning people ridiculed me for it.

Conclusion


In conclusion, I am not racist, and am only trying to fight against the racial prejudice that I harbor due to my life experiences. I’m sick and tried of ignorant members on cB calling me a racist. Please, face the facts, face the truth. From my personal experience, it seems it’s difficult for people of cB to face truth, but again… maybe this is a hasty generalization.


 
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*Frénésie*
post Feb 24 2007, 04:45 PM
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^ I didn't call him racist. I never participated in any of the 'racist' issues. So, really, I don't care.
 
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post Feb 24 2007, 05:01 PM
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I probably would have left out the last paragraph dedicated to CB members, keeping in mind what preceeded this topic =P.

That asides, it is a good and well-worded explanation; and some of the things you said do indeed look different under this new perspective. Thanks for posting it, honestly.
 
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post Feb 24 2007, 05:22 PM
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yawn.gif That was so long!

But the parts i read were very well written.
 
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post Feb 24 2007, 06:50 PM
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can i use that for my racism paper due thursday for my college class?
 
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post Feb 24 2007, 09:06 PM
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Whoa. It was so long. But I read it. laugh.gif
It was such an excellent piece of work. So meaningful. Just what I like. LOL.
 
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post Feb 24 2007, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(incoherent @ Feb 24 2007, 6:50 PM) *
can i use that for my racism paper due thursday for my college class?


Yes you can, under one condition... I want you to PM, and we will talk. This is give and take. I will not let you use the work that I did.
 
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post Feb 24 2007, 10:52 PM
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You said you're doing this for yourself, so kudos. It's not every day you learn more about yourself. It's much better than your previous thread about this situation.
 
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post Feb 24 2007, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(mona lisa @ Feb 24 2007, 10:52 PM) *
You said you're doing this for yourself, so kudos. It's not every day you learn more about yourself. It's much better than your previous thread about this situation.


Yeah, but I had to take hours to create this thread... the other thread took 10 minutes... >.>

I already speculated most of this, but it wasn't grounded in facts. Now I know it. Thank you for your support, and thank you for your help.
 
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post Feb 24 2007, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(Frénésie @ Feb 24 2007, 7:27 PM) *
STOP WITH THE RACIAL TOPICS! Jesus Christ, you're getting on my freaking nerve. This is the internet. We don't care.
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Silly Noob.
If you read the other topic properly like some did you would notice that people were in fact offended by his other topic.

So some people do care.
Either way if you dont care dont post..
 
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post Feb 24 2007, 11:52 PM
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Really, Diana, please don't assume that that user is simply trying to raise their post count. It was an honest reply.

Josh, honestly, I haven't read that whole thing. When I do, I'll edit this post with a response.

EDIT////: Good job, I saw plenty of self-realizations there. You seem much more calm, which is a definite improvement.
 
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post Feb 24 2007, 11:53 PM
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I didn't bother reading it. Too long. sheesh. But I don't think racism is good though.
 
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post Feb 25 2007, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(just_rissa @ Feb 24 2007, 11:53 PM) *
I didn't bother reading it. Too long. sheesh. But I don't think racism is good though.


You should read it... *sigh* It's really educational.

QUOTE(kayceeisms @ Feb 24 2007, 11:52 PM) *
Really, Diana, please don't assume that that user is simply trying to raise their post count. It was an honest reply.

Josh, honestly, I haven't read that whole thing. When I do, I'll edit this post with a response.


I don't think she was trying to imply that... she was simply saying...

IF you don't care
THEN don't post... :p


P.S> Thank you for taking the time to read it.

QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Feb 24 2007, 5:01 PM) *
I probably would have left out the last paragraph dedicated to CB members, keeping in mind what preceeded this topic =P.

That asides, it is a good and well-worded explanation; and some of the things you said do indeed look different under this new perspective. Thanks for posting it, honestly.


Wow, thank you Kurd Jam... I never expected this from you... This is the first positive thing you have ever said to me. :]
 
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post Feb 25 2007, 12:28 AM
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I like how all your topics are all formatted in such a way it's really easy to read thumbsup.gif
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post Feb 25 2007, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(icy_wonderland @ Feb 25 2007, 12:28 AM) *
I like how all your topics are all formatted in such a way it's really easy to read thumbsup.gif
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Well thanks... :] I take a lot of time putting them together.

QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Feb 24 2007, 7:32 AM) *
Do you consider that you're doing so in the right way?

Just wondering, given the amount of irritation and controversy you seem to generate. Because SOMETHING you do must cause people to 'judge' you and be 'ignorant jerks', right?

Or are you genuinely a martyr to your own truthfulness?


Always trying to turn a positive into an negative aren't we James? I know that certain things I say and do will cause people to judge me. What's life without a little controversy, and I use things like this to separate the ignorant morons from the rest. I don't see my self as a martyr, but I do think that I was honest and I do think that people took what I said out of context.
 
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post Feb 25 2007, 12:41 AM
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Goodness, do some of you guys EVER read books?

Josh, you know how I feel. Lovely topic. _smile.gif
 
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post Feb 25 2007, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(Señorita Semi-Automatic @ Feb 25 2007, 12:41 AM) *
Goodness, do some of you guys EVER read books?

Josh, you know how I feel. Lovely topic. _smile.gif


thanks :]
 
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post Feb 25 2007, 06:55 AM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Feb 25 2007, 5:36 AM) *
Well thanks... :] I take a lot of time putting them together.
Always trying to turn a positive into an negative aren't we James? I know that certain things I say and do will cause people to judge me. What's life without a little controversy, and I use things like this to separate the ignorant morons from the rest. I don't see my self as a martyr, but I do think that I was honest and I do think that people took what I said out of context.

I was asking you a question, that's all.

Asking questions is far less a sign of ignorance than blind positivity. But ok.

If I wanted to turn this into a negative thing, I could do it so much better. But, I don't. If you've learned something, then good for you. I just didn't find what you said to be revolutionary or that special to me... That's all.
 
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post Feb 25 2007, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Feb 25 2007, 6:24 AM) *
Wow, thank you Kurd Jam... I never expected this from you... This is the first positive thing you have ever said to me. :]


Yeah well, I may be in total opposition with most of your actions in here but this post deserved being commended for being honest. =P
 
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post Feb 25 2007, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(Monochrome. @ Feb 25 2007, 5:49 AM) *
Silly Noob.
If you read the other topic properly like some did you would notice that people were in fact offended by his other topic.

So some people do care.
Either way if you dont care dont post..

Idiot. You think I'm a noob? Double idiot. I'm not going to waste more time on you.

QUOTE(Uronacid @ Feb 25 2007, 6:24 AM) *
You should read it... *sigh* It's really educational.
I don't think she was trying to imply that... she was simply saying...

IF you don't care
THEN don't post... :p

Educational? Ha! What do you wish to achieve from this topic, or rather, peoples' comments? Inner satisfaction? Give me a second, I need to laugh ... at you.
 
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post Feb 25 2007, 09:14 AM
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Sandra... don't call her an idiot... it's not her fault she doesnt know you
 
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QUOTE(Frénésie @ Feb 25 2007, 8:53 AM) *
Educational? Ha! What do you wish to achieve from this topic, or rather, peoples' comments? Inner satisfaction? Give me a second, I need to laugh ... at you.


I thought it was interesting, and I guess I just assume other people might think it to be interesting. IF you don't think that it's interesting THEN that's fine... :}

QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Feb 25 2007, 6:55 AM) *
I was asking you a question, that's all.

Asking questions is far less a sign of ignorance than blind positivity. But ok.

If I wanted to turn this into a negative thing, I could do it so much better. But, I don't. If you've learned something, then good for you. I just didn't find what you said to be revolutionary or that special to me... That's all.


Alright, then I apologize.

QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Feb 25 2007, 7:54 AM) *
Yeah well, I may be in total opposition with most of your actions in here but this post deserved being commended for being honest. =P


RESPECT UP x2
 
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post Feb 25 2007, 05:57 PM
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You know what.
I don't care what anyone says, I think everyone is a little racist. Like, people by nature are jugdemental. I mean, it's just to what extent. Some of us are really bad with it, some of us are quiet about it.

But I think we're all inside deep down a little racist.

I KNOW I AM. COME ON PEOPLE, EMBRACE YOUR SEXY RACIST SELF.
 
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QUOTE(Frénésie @ Feb 25 2007, 1:53 PM) *
Idiot. You think I'm a noob? Double idiot. I'm not going to waste more time on you.

Pardon me.
Im sorry if i thought that geeze but the way you reacted to thread was rude so dont be suprized when karma comes back to bite you in the ass.But again i appolgize.

And was the idiot remark needed? It was a infact a misjudgement. rolleyes.gif
 
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post Feb 26 2007, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(slammin shelby @ Feb 25 2007, 11:57 PM) *
You know what.
I don't care what anyone says, I think everyone is a little racist. Like, people by nature are jugdemental. I mean, it's just to what extent. Some of us are really bad with it, some of us are quiet about it.

But I think we're all inside deep down a little racist.

I KNOW I AM. COME ON PEOPLE, EMBRACE YOUR SEXY RACIST SELF.

No. We are judgemental, not racist. There's a difference.
 
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post Feb 26 2007, 02:03 PM
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Josh, nicely written. I'll admit I had to hold my breath when I clicked on this topic. XD

Can we please stop with the noob/not noob/idiot remarks? Totally uneccessary (although at this point, I think it's stopped, I hope)

Also, I'm going with this statement:
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No. We are judgemental, not racist. There's a difference.
as opposed to the we're all racist to an extent statement. Perhaps there's some semantics on this, but racism usually denotes some type of intolerance or discrimination either by personal preference or as the result of how one was raised and being assimilated into that type of mentality (not that that's an excuse at all, we should all make up our own minds).

Now one could say that judgement is inherent in racism, but that's totally different than someone being judgemental at times.

I would say we can be judgemental of people, but I wouldn't go as far as to say everyone is racist in that everyone has some type of belief to one extent or another that certain races are below others.

We judge the person, not their race.

Just my opinion(s).
 

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