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Jesus, God's son.
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post Aug 25 2004, 09:37 AM
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she was a virgin when she gave birth 2 jesus...an angel appeared 2 her way b4 she got pregnant and told her she was the choosen one to give birth 2 jesus....so her and joseph knew wat was going 2 happen...the reason why jesus was born poor and not like a king was bcuz he shows how humble he is that he doesnt need no introduction or be treated like a big king....plus i dont kno if u kno but the kings back then wanted 2 kill jesus way b4 he was born they didnt want him 2 born...thats why they fleed and he was born where he was born...read ur bible.1
 
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post Aug 25 2004, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 25 2004, 9:37 AM)
she was a virgin when she gave birth 2 jesus...an angel appeared 2 her way b4 she got pregnant and told her she was the choosen one to give birth 2 jesus....so her and joseph knew wat was going 2 happen...the reason why jesus was born poor and not like a king was bcuz he shows how humble he is that he doesnt need no introduction or be treated like a big king....plus i dont kno if u kno but the kings back then wanted 2 kill jesus way b4 he was born they didnt want him 2 born...thats why they fleed and he was born where he was born...read ur bible.1

i kno the bible from the front to back, and probably better than u. i just happen to not want to believe everything that is force fed to me.
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 12:18 PM
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if you consider the whole thing about jesus being born poor, being born not as a king but as a regular human being, it fits quite well.


One of the main reasons God wanted Jesus to be born in human form was that he is dying for our sins. Also, God wanted someone to be in human form so Jesus can fully understand the needs and the suffering of human kind. Jesus is perfect and so humble like gerundio said that God sacrafice his one and only son. The only way for our sins to be saved was through the blood of an innocent and PURE life, Jesus Christ. I believe no one would juss gladly give up their life for everyone in the world. If he knew he was not God, but a man, like you said he was, than he would have step down and just said it was just one big fat joke. I don't think anyone would go through the torture he had to endure just to become a Legend or story.
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 12:21 PM
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i kno the bible from the front to back, and probably better than u. i just happen to not want to believe everything that is force fed to me.


As for force feeding you, I'm sorry you feel that way but "force feeding" is not what Christians are doing. We are simply living the life for Jesus Christ and trying to share his gospel and truth to everyone else.
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(gerundio @ Aug 25 2004, 3:04 PM)
i kno the bible from the front to back, and probably better than u. i just happen to not want to believe everything that is force fed to me.

whoa excuse me!! stubborn.gif ....i if u knew the bible better than me...maybe u do...but thats awesome...but if u knew the bible more than me then u wouldt act the way u are! i guess u should study more wat u read....or "force feeding" dont worry god loves u cool.gif
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 26 2004, 2:51 PM)
whoa excuse me!! stubborn.gif ....i  if u knew the bible better than me...maybe u do...but thats awesome...but if u knew the bible more than me then u wouldt act the way u are! i guess u should study more wat u read....or "force feeding" dont worry god loves u  cool.gif

maybe my understanding of the bible is a different better than urs... oh and thanks for the blessing. wink.gif
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(xnastyninjagrlx @ Aug 26 2004, 12:21 PM)
As for force feeding you, I'm sorry you feel that way but "force feeding" is not what Christians are doing. We are simply living the life for Jesus Christ and trying to share his gospel and truth to everyone else.

how can it be force fed to u if u are willinly accepting it?
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(gerundio @ Aug 26 2004, 3:19 PM)
maybe my understanding of the bible is a different better than urs... oh and thanks for the blessing. wink.gif

maybe it is maybe it isnt...only god knows! but hey w/e its all good cool.gif
 
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post Aug 27 2004, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(gerundio @ Aug 26 2004, 3:21 PM)
how can it be force fed to u if u are willinly accepting it?

HUH? I"m so confused..hahah I thought u meant YOU didn't like to be force fed... blink.gif
 
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post Aug 27 2004, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(xnastyninjagrlx @ Aug 27 2004, 11:23 AM)
HUH? I"m so confused..hahah I thought u meant YOU didn't like to be force fed... blink.gif

yes that was what i said... but let me rephrase the weird comment:

U wouldnt consider it as force feeding as U willingly accept it.
 
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post Aug 27 2004, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(gerundio @ Aug 27 2004, 11:32 AM)
yes that was what i said... but let me rephrase the weird comment:

U wouldnt consider it as force feeding as U willingly accept it.

yah I do willingly accept Jesus Christ as my savior..so no I am not force fed into anything...

*i think this is wut u mean..i'm not sure..still a lil confused... pinch.gif
 
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post Aug 27 2004, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(xnastyninjagrlx @ Aug 27 2004, 5:27 PM)
yah I do willingly accept Jesus Christ as my savior..so no I am not force fed into anything...

*i think this is wut u mean..i'm not sure..still a lil confused... pinch.gif

exactly thats what i am trying to say. u accept everything that comes with christianity, thus u dont see it as something that is forced, upon u or upon anyone else. but i see it differently. its just different points of view, thats all that i am tryin to say.
 
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post Aug 27 2004, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(gerundio @ Aug 27 2004, 5:34 PM)
exactly thats what i am trying to say. u accept everything that comes with christianity, thus u dont see it as something that is forced, upon u or upon anyone else. but i see it differently. its just different points of view, thats all that i am tryin to say.

yup different point of views....soo how differently do u see it? explain!
 
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post Aug 27 2004, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 27 2004, 6:47 PM)
yup different point of views....soo how differently do u see it? explain!

i just dont agree with some of the things in the bible such as the view on homosexuality, nor do i believe a lot of the bible to be God's word. somethings about Jesus are also a bit sketchy. im not 100% sure he walked on water for instance. nor do i think that Mary was a virgin. i dont believe that Jesus knew his whole life that he was God. and i dont think that Jesus knew exactly how and when he was goin to die. things like that.
 
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post Aug 27 2004, 08:44 PM
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that is why the bible calls for you to have faith.
 
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post Aug 27 2004, 11:05 PM
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Nietzsche's ideas on 'faith'.
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Faith makes blessed: therefore it is true." — It might be objected right here that blessedness is not demonstrated, it is merely promised: it hangs upon "faith" as a condition — one shall be blessed because one believes .... But what of the thing that the priest promises to the believer, the wholly transcendental "beyond" — how is that to be demonstrated? — The "proof by power," thus assumed, is actually no more at bottom than a belief that the effects which faith promises will not fail to appear. In a formula: "I believe that faith makes for blessedness — therefore, it is true." ...  But this is as far as we may go. This "therefore" would be absurdum itself as a criterion of truth.
 
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post Aug 27 2004, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 27 2004, 8:44 PM)
that is why the bible calls for you to have faith.

huh.gif ok.

and the NRS calls you... just kidding. wink.gif
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 11:43 AM
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jesus was an englightened human whom god chose to help.

yup i'm buddhist.


there's the trinity- god is the father, the son, and the holy spirit.

so, jesus is his own father.

the father did mary, and mary had the son. the son and the father are one and the same, along with the holy spirit.


here's my trinity: stitch the expirenment, mulder the detective, and Frankensitien the doctor.

yea, you need a christian on this. 

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thats even more confusing than the topic quesion


I agree but if you think about it this way most people who don't believe in god don't believe in jesus, so yea but um.. some people might believe in jesus but don't believe that he's gods son because they might believe that he was a real person but not god's son and that he had a different effect on the people
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post Aug 28 2004, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(loopylandscapes47 @ Aug 28 2004, 11:43 AM)
I agree but if you think about it this way most people who don't believe in god don't believe in jesus, so yea but um.. some people might believe in jesus but don't believe that he's gods son because they might believe that he was a real person but not god's son and that he had a different effect on the people
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so if u dont believe jesus is gods son...so how do u explain all those miracles he did....how he curred the deaf and the blind and even the pple with the bad skin( i4got how 2 spell it) im sure they dont have the medicine we have now a days... cool.gif
 
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post Feb 9 2007, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(Devastation @ Aug 8 2004, 3:20 PM) *
i am a bit confused on this subject, i need some opinions on JESUS, god has had enough attenmtion, jesus is the one i need answers on.


God and Jesus are the same person...Jesus is merely God in the flesh, he couldn't come down as himself because he is too bright to see so therefore he sent Jesus which is in fact himself.
 
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post Feb 19 2007, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 8 2004, 6:32 PM) *
jesus was an englightened human whom god chose to help.

yup i'm buddhist.
there's the trinity- god is the father, the son, and the holy spirit.

so, jesus is his own father.

the father did mary, and mary had the son. the son and the father are one and the same, along with the holy spirit.
here's my trinity: stitch the expirenment, mulder the detective, and Frankensitien the doctor.

yea, you need a christian on this.


Haha. Nice answer. But God didn't 'do' Mary. He just simply planted a seed within her with no sexual connection. She didn't even know until an angel came to her in a dream.

Think of the Trinity more of a set of offices. God is the Father. He is the one who created the world. And such. Jesus is the one we pray to and the one who died for our sins, and such. The Holy Spirit is the one who was put in place after Jesus died on the cross to watch over us. Basically like a guardian angel.

I love your last answer though. Your Trinity is awesome. Hhahaha

QUOTE(Heath21 @ Feb 9 2007, 6:11 PM) *
God and Jesus are the same person...Jesus is merely God in the flesh, he couldn't come down as himself because he is too bright to see so therefore he sent Jesus which is in fact himself.


What?! Haha. Why do you say God is too bright? What makes Him bright? I don't understand. Where in the Bible does it say that God is bright?
 
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post Feb 19 2007, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 19 2007, 4:59 PM) *
Haha. Nice answer. But God didn't 'do' Mary. He just simply planted a seed within her with no sexual connection. She didn't even know until an angel came to her in a dream.

Think of the Trinity more of a set of offices. God is the Father. He is the one who created the world. And such. Jesus is the one we pray to and the one who died for our sins, and such. The Holy Spirit is the one who was put in place after Jesus died on the cross to watch over us. Basically like a guardian angel.

I love your last answer though. Your Trinity is awesome. Hhahaha
What?! Haha. Why do you say God is too bright? What makes Him bright? I don't understand. Where in the Bible does it say that God is bright?


My old pastor explained it to me a long time ago, he's been studying the Bible for 40+ years and that's what he said. Jesus is the son of God but in reality Jesus is in fact God, they are no different, read chapter John, Jesus was merely God in the flesh who died on the cross for our sins...God couldn't come down himself because he would be too bright for us to see...my pastor said imagine God like the sun? The sun is too bright to really look at, that is God. I can't remember how the rest went but that's exactly what he said...
 
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post Feb 21 2007, 08:46 PM
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Just putting out a personal atheist pov, I happen to think that Jesus is just another prophet who said he was son of whoever to make people listen. Born from a virgin? Yeah okay.
 
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QUOTE(Chessboxxa 101 @ Feb 21 2007, 8:46 PM) *
Just putting out a personal atheist pov, I happen to think that Jesus is just another prophet who said he was son of whoever to make people listen. Born from a virgin? Yeah okay.


Everything in this world cannot be explained by science.
 
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post Feb 22 2007, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(Chessboxxa 101 @ Feb 21 2007, 5:46 PM) *
Just putting out a personal atheist pov, I happen to think that Jesus is just another prophet who said he was son of whoever to make people listen. Born from a virgin? Yeah okay.


That's what the Jehovahs believe in. They believe Jesus was merely a prophet and didn't die on the cross, they do believe in an angel or something called Michael. Yes, born from a Virgin, if God is all powerful he'd have the power to do that, it's kinda like magic wink.gif

QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 21 2007, 10:03 PM) *
Everything in this world cannot be explained by science.


Yep, and just because science hasn't been able to explain it doesn't mean it does not exist =]
 

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