people hate Bush, no one even gives him a chance Options

[jo3]

no one really knows who's behind all of this. it could be iraqi partisans, but it could be more. you don't know that those videos are 100% real, but even if they are, that doesn't mean that the beheadings weren't staged. but regardless, we have to expect something like that to happen if we're the ones in their homeland

and don't forget our guys were torturing/humiliating them too

[ComradeRed]

Chances are it was Iraqi Partisans ... they have the motive, the means, and the opportunity. No one else does. Besides, partisans fight back -- that's what they do. We know that Shi'ite militants were giving us a really hard time in parts of the country like Fallujah ... chances are, the people doing the beheadings are just those people turned partisan.

[Mireh]

Wow. You get a cookie for that.

Thats so true. I'm so tired of democrats bashing him.

[jo3]

what kind?? i like macademia nut w/ white chocolate

and i hope it was me you wanted to give the cookie too...

[jo3]

yep. but that can be expected, since politics is such a big thing, especially when a controversial movie (Farenheit 911) came out not too long ago, the the elections coming up

[ComradeRed]

Actually politics only became a big thing recently.

Did a lot of people have strong opinions on politics in the 90s? No.

I think that, in the grand scheme of things, the best thing Bush will have done for America will have to have gotten people so pissed off at him, and gotten others so pissed off at the people who were pissed off at him, that people are finally starting to care about politics again.

Law of unintended consequences.

[Sumiaki]

He should just stick to his speech cards or telepromter. Then maybe, people wouldnt bash him. lol

[jo3]

how do you know that? i doubt u ever talked about politics in the 90s because you were younger, and you didn't have any interest in it

politics may have not been as important in the 90s as it was in previous years (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html), but the difference isn't that significant. also, people only complain if something goes wrong. clinton had it a lot easier than bush has had it. clinton didn't go through a 9/11. clinton didn't have to think about going into a war. although i believe clinton was a great president, i don't think he had to work as hard as bush has had to work. clinton was elected just before an economic expansion. bush was elected just before an economic contraction. the current economy reflects what happened about 2 years ago (because there's a delayed effect), so what's happening now is a result of 2001-2002 (such as 9/11).

politics is a big thing for those who care about the country, whether the country is doing good or bad. but for selfish people who only care about themselves, politics is a big thing when things aren't going so well for them and when they're "pissed off"

[black_cloud10]

What are you talking about? We've given Bush a chance over the last three years ... he's had absolute power enjoyed by no other President since possibly FDR ... He has done a few good things, but in general, I believe he has no respect for American ideals and the Constitution at all.

go comrade red!! for once ur comment made sense to me ^_^

Bush's approval rating throughout the his entire term has been 50/50. a lot of people are probably more patriotic now then ever because of him, and thats all good. personally i'm against him. the anti-gay marriage stuff bothers me a lot.

i'm not really upset about the war on iraq, but the reasons behind it is what upsets me. we were told they had WMD. last i checked we hadn't found any. i'm also missing the 9/11-Iraq connection. not to sound like one of Michael Moore's drones, i think the gov't took advantage of the high emotions over 9/11 and used that to manipulate people in support of the war. any president that supports that, or sits idle while it happens is no good to me. if someone from the white house had got on CNN and said "saddam's a complete and total @sshole and we're gonna go bomb the eff outta his country" i wouldn't have minded the war at all.

so president bush doesn't have my support.

PS: i have no problem admitting the bush administration is the first political thing i've followed on a national basis. before that my concerns were focused on my mayor and the school-super. considering i was just in elementary school i think that's not half. but i will tell you i probably know next to nothing about politics and the stress of the job. what i do know is that emotions are high, people are being affected, and people are dying.


EDIT Just an afterthought - ok these are your views. What are you going to do with them? Besides bash people online who don't agree with you.

[jo3]

i don't bash ppl online who don't agree with me. i bash people online who have stupid things to say like "bush sucks" and "bush is a moron"

if people stuck to intelligent posts like urs or comradereds, then i would never bash anyone (i'd give them my opinion, but i wouldn't bash them)

[Spirited Away]

i don't bash ppl online who don't agree with me.  i bash people online who have stupid things to say like "bush sucks" and "bush is a moron"

Those make me mad, too, not because their political opinions differ from mine, but because I can't stand the ridiculous of the accusation from someone who is no better than the one they are bashing.

if people stuck to intelligent posts like urs or comradereds, then i would never bash anyone (i'd give them my opinion, but i wouldn't bash them)

Sometimes, I don't understand the intelligent posts because they're too in depth or too informative and I only happen to know the general story... But isn't it fun to know that you guys are enlightening some people on their political fallacies?

[CHiiCKENBUTT]

Yea Really! Like all my friends are like "Oh i hate bush he's so stupid" and i'm like "You don't even know him. He's done NOTHING to you." It's not like they're the iraqis getting killed. &plus he's human like ALL of us. we make mistakes.

[*xcaitlinx*]

Yea Really! Like all my friends are like "Oh i hate bush he's so stupid" and i'm like "You don't even know him. He's done NOTHING to you." It's not like they're the iraqis getting killed. &plus he's human like ALL of us. we make mistakes.

excuse me? your post is so ridiculous that it made me laugh out loud. last time i checked, the president is here to protect the ENTIRE country. "he's done nothing to me"? well, he's f**ked up a lot of things and all because he hasn't personally done anything to me doesn't mean that he is a good president. "it's not like they're the iraqis getting killed"? well, it's not like we're the ones in africa getting AIDS, but does that mean that we shouldn't help them? you're either 10 years old or mentally retarded. if you're going to attempt to debate then i think the least you could do is actually know a thing or two about politics and the way president bush runs our country. and if you think that the president can say "well, i'm human..can't i make mistakes too!?!?" then you're insane. it would be more realistic if say, he made one LITTLE mistake, but sending our troops to iraq with practically no plan, and no strategy whatsoever, is a hell of a lot more than a mere mistake. it was a complete f**k up, and now that his new plan has come out [which of course, you most likely haven't heard because you're so ignorant], it makes me despise him even more.

[tooeffingcrazy]

It's not like they're the iraqis getting killed.

Wow. So you think it's justified for us to kill innocent victims? From dying mothers to dying children. We're dropping bombs on villages and cities, killing thousands of people that have done nothing to us.

That was the most selfish comment i've ever read.

And where is Mr. Bush in all this? Going to Iraq for 30 minutes doesn't mean you've been to Iraq.

[*x1227x*]

Honestly, I dont like Bush. He's the one who's making innocent people in Iraq die, and also making our troops die. Lots of people are getting killed because of his retarded decision to get into a war with Iraq. Yeah, we AREN'T the people in Iraq right now, but thousands for others are there. They're out there getting killed by American soldiers because of BUSH. His decision killed thousands for innocent people and troops. It makes me feel hurt when on the news it says "Our 2000th troop has died in the Iraq fight." Really, WHY can't they just stop all of this? Why does this war need to go on? It's been going on for a few years now Really.... I personally don't like Bush for getting into a war with Iraq and killing many people..

[Amay]

I personally don't like Bush for getting into a war with Iraq and killing many people..

That's basically the main reason I don't like him.
His decisions for the country aren't the best.

[*x1227x*]

^ I'm pretty sure that's the reason why EVERYONE doesn't like him. So it's like a general reason why people don't like him.

[tooeffingcrazy]

It's not that he's fighting with Iraq, it's that he's going into war without a strategy.

[AngelinaTaylor]

He has no reason to be in Iraq. It's none of America's business what goes on there. It's actually WORSE now than before, when Saddam was in power. A lot more people have died. So said a UN member as well.

[miiichellley]

i am not going to say that i hate bush. i don't hate him. why? because i don't know him personally, and i bet none of you do. however, i will mention i am not satisfied with what he's doing. no, he has no business in iraq and it is disappointing because of the fact that he destroyed Iraq himself and now wants to rebuild it himself. i don't get that. i don't think he should have even done all this war business. and over 2000 (or was it 3000?) troops have died. that is absolutely unnecessary and he seriously needs to stop that.

[Comptine]

i don't hate bush. i think that he makes a poor president with too narrow minded views.

i'm not going to point specifically to people i'm talking about but:

GET OUT OF IRAQ NOW! SAVE THE TROOPS! thousands of these people rally in new york city each year to protest the iraq war. and several people already said, the war has to stop or the troops needed to come home. they say bush is killing our troops.

what is he going to do? pull the troops out? bullshit. peope who advocate that do not think past immediate results or understand war. america started the war and we must stick to it because if we leave, all hell will break lose. bush has no choice. he is stuck between a rock and a hard place. he started it, he must see it out the end and america must follow.

do you think bush likes sending troops to a dangerous combat zone? no. he is not the one killing the troops and it demonizes him if one says so.

bush is a good person with strong religious (most of which i don't agree with). he just mad bad decisions.

[AngelinaTaylor]

Al Gore would have been so much more suitable for president. But noooooo. Oh, and he's sending about 20,000 more troops this week, or so I read in the newspaper.

[*xcaitlinx*]

^ yep, that's part of his new "plan", which also includes building a mcdonald's over in iraq as well. oh man, if bush thinks that the sunnis and shiites are going to suddenly "unite" over a f**king mcdonald's, he's got another thing coming to him.

[*kryogenix*]

Bush could be better but I'd rather him than the alternatives.

Start the fire. I'm ready.

[tooeffingcrazy]

he is stuck between a rock and a hard place. he started it, he must see it out the end and america must follow.

do you think bush likes sending troops to a dangerous combat zone? no. he is not the one killing the troops and it demonizes him if one says so.

As much as this is true, he still does not know what the hell he's doing.
I can see that he is trying his best to keep our country "safe", but does that require the deaths of the innocent Iraqi's?! No. Do you really think it's neccessary for him to drop bombs on as many cities, hoping to get Saddam? No. More Iraqi's are getting killed, who have done nothing, oppose to our american troops. Now he's sending more troops in to do god knows what.