God Options

[waccoon]

i really see no reason to believe in him. there are so many arguments to his non existence. come on, you religious fanatics. bring it on.

[*Kathleen*]

Meh. He's funny and he's smart.
And I don't know, maybe he's just expressing hiw views?

To clarify this, he's merely joking...

[princess2113]

To clarify this, he's merely joking...

u assume this abt him but not abt me......let me point out that its b/c u r friends n u fight the same topic...thats is i leave u with this

I will pray for you all that you are enlighted of Truth my the Spirit. I pray also that u may know you harsh words affect others. I pray you will learn forgiveness, just as my Lord, Jesus Christ forgives you, and as I will try my best to forgive you. it is unlike me to leave behind harsh feelings because of what I have seen happen when they are left. I haved tried and tried again to not do this, and unsuccesfully so. It worries me and I will put it into my Father's hands. I pray that you will come to know Truth so that you may all be with Him in Paradise.
He is the WAY and the Truth and the Light. Follow Him to the Father.
With love,
~*princess2113*~

[ComradeRed]

To clarify this, he's merely joking...

For next year, I want to run an LD Case (THE NIETZSCHEAN NEG™) with the value structure of VP: Fear with a VC: Living Dangerously. I will run it on Neg so if someone gets up and reads a really stupid Aff I can run that neg case for more fun, challenge, and still hope to win lol. Praise Allah, Princess. You know you want to.

[onenonly101]

your "encounters" with god have been scientifically explained to you and you choose to ignore it. you have no hard evidence. like seeing him. or some supernatural thing happening before your eyes (meaning something that cant be scientifically proven wrong)

No they haven't been "scientifically" explained. Have you read these entire 48 pages. I suggest reading them if you haven't and reading peoples experiences. One wuestion, Why do you believe in science? You say it has been proven, but it hasn't it has been peoples believe. And you said believing is not proof, so therefore what you are saying isn't proof it is your belief. You are so quick to say God isn't real He is right it is a lie.. but you are so quick to believe what some teacher or philospher said. That is what I don't understand? You could say the same for me except for the fact i have experienced these things.

[ComradeRed]

u assume this abt him but not abt me......let me point out that its b/c u r friends n u fight the same topic...thats is i leave u with this

Maybe the fact that I spell better has something to do with it.

I will pray for you all that you are enlighted of Truth my the Spirit.

I enlighten people all the time: www.zendebater.dk3.com

I pray also that u may know you harsh words affect others.

And your heathen beliefs bring shame and offense to Allah.

I pray you will learn forgiveness, just as my Lord, Jesus Christ forgives you, and as I will try my best to forgive you. it is unlike me to leave behind harsh feelings because of what I have seen happen when they are left.  I haved tried and tried again to not do this, and unsuccesfully so.  It worries me and I will put it into my Father's hands.

If you renounce the Great Satan, kind and merciful Allah may still show his munificent clemency towards you.

I pray that you will come to know Truth so that you may all be with Him in Paradise.

As long as I get my 77 Virginians, that's fine.

He is the WAY and the Truth and the Light.  Follow Him to the Father.
                With love,
        ~*princess2113*~

The Way is actually a Chinese Religion (look it up, it's called Taoism), that does not believe in Allah, and therefore is Infidel and must be destroyed. The Great Muslim Jihad, however, does not need to do this: Their own government is doing a pretty good job already. Praise be to the Red China Communist Party. And Allah.

[*[2]Nekked*]

ROFL@

THE RED CHINA COMMUNIST PARTY

[*Kathleen*]

Haha nice counterargument, Minda. She was talking about [2]Nekked, though.

[IIO__oII]

thats what weve all been asking for! but all people seem to say is "i believe in Him, therefore He is real." no ones been able to show SOLID PROOF that God is real without relating it to their belief in Him. the side who does not believe in Him has stated our reasons for non-belief, so where are the reasons for belief from the other side? just because YOU PERSONALLY believe in Him does not make Him real.

the creation is a SOLID PROOF of a living God... i mean, the things around us work SO PERFECTLY together.... how else could it be created other than a Creator.. a God??? evolution? by chance? [ha]

[onenonly101]

I think WildGriffin said a couple of pages ago that this has been "over debated"

[ComradeRed]

Haha nice counterargument, Minda. She was talking about [2]Nekked, though.

Well it said "him"... I assumed therefore it was referring to me because Nekked's signature looks, well, probably female...

[ComradeRed]

the creation is a SOLID PROOF of a living God... i mean, the things around us work SO PERFECTLY together.... how else could it be created other than a Creator.. a God??? evolution? by chance? [ha]

Sure. Your argument just says there is probably a God. But nothing in the laws of physics prevents chance workings.

[wantingtobehis]

Oh, gosh I am a bad debator. but, I'm princess's friend so im gonna give this a shot. nobody make fun of me I can't read all of those pages so I only read a few so if this makes no sense...oops

OK, so if we come from from apes...which is very possible its been proven..then how come we changed over time?

hehe I'm no good with proving things. I'm going to stick with other stuff

[*CEP*]

the creation is a SOLID PROOF of a living God... i mean, the things around us work SO PERFECTLY together.... how else could it be created other than a Creator.. a God??? evolution? by chance? [ha]

Meh. Could've been the Egyptian Gods.
Maybe the Greek Gods.
Hell, you could even put the Norse Gods in the race.
[ha]

OK, so if we come from from apes...which is very possible its been proven..then how come we changed over time?

Adaptation. The climate got warmer, therefore less fur. We learned to cultivate and plant crops. That's why we're not as huge as apes. Blahblahblah.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[ryfitaDF]

over 1000 posts about somthing we don't even know exists. i dunno about you, but i sure feel silly.

[WildGriffin]

Adaptation. The climate got warmer, therefore less fur. We learned to cultivate and plant crops. That's why we're not as huge as apes. Blahblahblah.

Building on that, adaptation through evolution.

Hairy brutes eventually became less desirable and a genetic mutation that took place somewhere down the line created a more-human creature with desirable features that helped it to better survive.

We didn't exactly "adapt"... nature just weeded out who should survive and who shouldn't.

Thank God for genetic mutations! (oh the irony, it burns)

[m@dcow]

Meh. Could've been the Egyptian Gods.
Maybe the Greek Gods.
Hell, you could even put the Norse Gods in the race.
[ha]

i concur

there are so many other religions out in the world... and some of them have nothing to do with the christian based god. so they could have made the earth what it's like... no one knows... and it's very hard to imagine all of the gods working together some where up in heaven... very very very hard... so if the christian God was real, then that is to go against a whole lot of other religions...

[princess2113]

sorry i have one more thing to say

those of u that say ur Muslim plz explain this.....Muslims believe Jesus is a great prophet. they also say prophets dont lie. it is PROVEN in HISTORY that He died b/c He said He was the Son of God....we believe it was for our salvation....but if you r Muslim u say He isnt God's Son.....so you are calling Him a liar....but u say prophets dont lie...plz explain.....so it contradicts itself so plz dunt tell ME i dunt have my facts straight

[Spirited Away]

Taken from this site:

Of all the major religious leaders, only one claimed to be God...or did He? Islam insists that Jesus never claimed that He was God. Islam says of Jesus:


1. That he was the son of a woman, Mary, and therefore man;
2. But an apostle, a man with a mission from God, and therefore is entitled to honor.
3. A Word bestowed on Mary, for he was created by God's Word, and he was.
4. A spirit proceeding from God, but not God: his life and mission were more limited than in the case of some other apostles, though we must pay equal honor to him as a man of God?

So where in history that Jesus claimed He was the Son of God? Perhaps Christians and Muslims saw two accounts of one story, and therefore, is confused on which is true.

You may stake claim that Christianity is correct, however, a Muslim will say the same of his/her religion.

[princess2113]

Taken from this site:



So where in history that Jesus claimed He was the Son of God? Perhaps Christians and Muslims saw two accounts of one story, and therefore, is confused on which is true.

You may stake claim that Christianity is correct, however, a Muslim will say the same of his/her religion.

number 1....they have found proof that He was crucified for calling Himself the Son of God....so they say either He lied or history lied....n i think u ppl r addicted to history/scientifical PROOF
number 2....the Ten Commandments were found that says that Jesus is God and Jesus gave them....so they say He lies there
number 3....the Bible....written by what people Muslims believe r prophets ((who remember they dunt believe prophets lie)) says that Jesus is God's Son....so they say those prophets lie and say the Bible isnt true yet some of it is the same as the Quran

[Spirited Away]

Not exactly. I only require proof that your word weights more than a Muslim's. What make you right and them wrong?

Do you believe in the Trinity? Explain to me exactly what the Holy Ghost/Spirit is.

[likeachild]

Not exactly. I only require proof that your word weights more than a Muslim's. What make you right and them wrong?

Do you believe in the Trinity? Explain to me exactly what the Holy Ghost/Spirit is.

The Holy Spirit is the third person in the Trinity. He is fully God. He is eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, has a will, and can speak. He is alive. He is a person. He is not particularly visible in the Bible because His ministry is to bear witness of Jesus (John 5:26).
Some cults like the Jehovah's Witnesses say that the Holy Spirit is nothing more than a force (Reasoning from the Scriptures, 1985, pp. 406-407). This is false. If the Holy Spirit were merely a force, then He could not speak (Acts 13:2); He could not be grieved (Eph. 4:30); and He would not have a will (1 Cor. 12:11).
The truth is that the Holy Spirit is a person the same as the Father and the Son are within the Trinity.

[princess2113]

Not exactly. I only require proof that your word weights more than a Muslim's. What make you right and them wrong?

Do you believe in the Trinity? Explain to me exactly what the Holy Ghost/Spirit is.

ahh i wanna gonna quit posting n this site is addicitive...

ok Muslims as i just showed above contradict themselves a lot....another way they believe u live forever....and are NOT alive in your grave but that you dont go to Heaven until Judgement Day, that u wait in your grave.....yet, you arent alive in your grave? and they dont believe that u die and then come alive on Judgement day so its contradicting....i mean if ur soul isnt alive in your grave but isnt in Heaven but is still alive where is it????

yes, i believe in the Trinity. the Holy Spirit/ Ghost is exactly like the name its a Spirt that is um Holy.....when Jesus left earth after rising on Easter to be with His Father(God) part of His stays with us forever....the Holy Spirit/Ghost is all around us and lives in our hearts...some say its you consious(cant spell) and helps you when you call on Him....He knocks on the door to your heart and if you open it for Him....be assured that He listens......He is part of God, just as Jesus is. He is the part that lives in our hearts and all around us ((u know when ppl say God is everywhere....there u go))

[stryker76]

....He knocks on the door to your heart and if you open it for Him....be assured that He listens......

Ummmm god is everywhere so then he shold always be listening i mean damn people give there lives to him and he cant help them through a few hard times....sounds like and assh*le to me

[princess2113]

Ummmm god is everywhere so then he shold always be listening i mean damn people give there lives to him and he cant help them through a few hard times....sounds like and assh*le to me

He has alwayz helped me throu the bad times.....ur complaining abt giving ur life but u dunt believe.....




[QUOTE] [Not exactly. I only require proof that your word weights more than a Muslim's. What make you right and them wrong?]


what makes u write n us wrong? n give me proof ur words weigh more than Christians

and plz ppl who were claiming to be Muslims explain....since u know abt this plz impress me with ur knowledge

[sammi rules you]

He has alwayz helped me throu the bad times.....ur complaining abt giving ur life but u dunt believe.....

[Not exactly. I only require proof that your word weights more than a Muslim's. What make you right and them wrong?]


what makes u write n us wrong? n give me proof ur words weigh more than Christians

and plz ppl who were claiming to be Muslims explain....since u know abt this plz impress me with ur knowledge

um, how about yourself sweetie? i believe you said earlier that "the Holy Spirit/Ghost is a Spirit that is um Holy". naw, really? i thought the Holy Spirit was unHoly. talk about lack of intelligence.

i thought you were gonna leave?..you had this long post about trying to enlighten us to see the truth and whatnot..

so far, you still have not provided sufficial proof on your arguement AT ALL, so i would not be asking others to show proof on their arguement when you havent done so once.