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post Dec 7 2006, 10:44 AM
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December 7, 1941.
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 11:47 AM
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Pearl Harbor, eh?

Who cares. Well, I don't. Didn't affect me (in any direct way).
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 12:59 PM
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^ Who cares? Eh. Even though it might not directly effect us, so many people lost their lives fighting for our country.
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 01:34 PM
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OOooh yes.
I live in Hawai'I..on Oahu, so yeah.
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 03:43 PM
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v.i.d.
very important day.
pearl harbor. -moment of silence-
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(happykmd @ Dec 7 2006, 12:59 PM) *
^ Who cares? Eh. Even though it might not directly effect us, so many people lost their lives fighting for our country.


..and the moral of the story would be?
by the way, the appropriate vocabulary would be 'affect'
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 04:40 PM
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i forgot. mellow.gif

RIP. ermm.gif
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 06:07 PM
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R.I.P
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 06:16 PM
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Eh I suppose I don't see it as that big of a memorial typish day, no one really cared. In drafting me and one my friends talked about it, that was the most I heard about it the whole day. Oh and I heard it on the news this morning when I was watching it with my grandpa.

-shrugs-

Rest In Peace I suppose, but I mean if they aren't already somethings wrong.

I guess I kind of agree with Seon Ho. mellow.gif
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 06:25 PM
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Pretty sad day. I think it's pretty sad no one really remembers. Back then, that was their 9/11. Think of how we all felt then.

I guess because I'm such a WWII buff that it's important to me. I was watching a documentary where some Japanese vets met up with American vets and forgave each other. One guy met the same pilot who dropped a torpedo that destroyed his ship and nearly killed him. They shook hands and the Japanese guy said "I'm sorry." and was crying but the American said "No, don't be. It was a war between two nations and we were just soldiers. We were just doing our job." and he game him a hug. I thought that was pretty neat.

But, yeah, it should never be forgotten. I honor all who fought and who died.
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 06:27 PM
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^ It really is sad. Even my US History teacher didn't remember. mellow.gif We remember silly things like Valentine's day and April Fool's day, but many people can't even remember such an important day.
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 06:27 PM
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Aw, Pearl Harbor.
Sometimes I wonder what really happened that day.
& what Japan's intentions were.. I mean, like REALLY know.
Not just the stuff that I learn in history class.

Edit: I'm reading my newspaper that I bought from the memorial in Hawaii last time I went.
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 06:30 PM
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I saw it on the calendar this morning, so I just took a brief moment to think of those who fought and those who perished.
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(Smoogrish @ Dec 7 2006, 6:27 PM) *
^ It really is sad. Even my US History teacher didn't remember. mellow.gif We remember silly things like Valentine's day and April Fool's day, but many people can't even remember such an important day.


Because we are able to relate to days such as Valentine's Day or April Fools Day, not some event that happened 60+ years ago. Are you really that stupid?
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(iRock cB @ Dec 7 2006, 6:25 PM) *
Pretty sad day. I think it's pretty sad no one really remembers. Back then, that was their 9/11. Think of how we all felt then.

Well, I'm sure the people whom lived during the time remembered it.
And yeah, I think 9/11 was a pretty good event to compare Pearl Harbor with.

It was also reminds us of some of America's mistakes; I'm talking about how strategic war geniuses were already talking about how Japan could make a huge blow on America at that particular timeset, but were obviously not listened to.

Before 9/11 occurred, there were already hints out there that there could be a terrorist threat, such as when the Philippines captured one of the minds behind the whole concept of the 9/11 attack and noted America, but was disregarded.


Well, the movie was pretty good.
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(krnxswat @ Dec 7 2006, 6:32 PM) *
Because we are able to relate to days such as Valentine's Day or April Fools Day, not some event that happened 60+ years ago. Are you really that stupid?

Are you really that naive? That was like their 9/11. Of course we can relate.

Her point is that we remember less important things in general and forget what we should remember. Not that hard of a concept to grasp.
 
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He kinda sorta has a point.
I mean yes, we should you know feel bad for the people who lost people.
And also, how can you relate to 9-11. Were you there? Did you lose someone? How did it affect you?
Just asking.
But I can understand both points of veiw.

Anyway. Yeah.
 
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EH i suppose I dont' really find even 9/11 important either, I just see America as being completely selfish about it. I think you should remember something like WWII or even WWI before 9/11. mellow.gif
A ton more people died during those wars then the compared 3,000 that died at 9/11.

-shrugs- I'll always feel like that, even if I were apart of it, I just believe we did it to ourselves or we atleast called it upon ourselves.
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(iRock cB @ Dec 7 2006, 6:36 PM) *
Are you really that naive? That was like their 9/11. Of course we can relate.

Her point is that we remember less important things in general and forget what we should remember. Not that hard of a concept to grasp.


It's not that they're less important, Seon Ho does have a point about them being able to relate more to them, but shouldn't people remember and honor the people who died at Pearl Harbor?
 
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^of course, but it doesn't always happen that way. People tend to forget because its not a very big direct subject that everyone hears about often.

Brings back the whole America being selfish, its the past and no one cares. They'll continue their lives with the things they can relate to.
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(iRock cB @ Dec 7 2006, 6:36 PM) *
Are you really that naive? That was like their 9/11. Of course we can relate.

Her point is that we remember less important things in general and forget what we should remember. Not that hard of a concept to grasp.

I see your point, and it does make sense to me.

Though, what Seon Ho is saying makes sense too. I mean, yeah, it was a pretty significant event especially to those who were indeed directly affected, but I guess it would be legit to not remember Pearl Harbor.

I guess similar to how, say, if you're not Jewish you probably don't know about the Jewish holidays, when they occurred, etc, though the Jewish people sure do, because it affects them, and are really important to them.

Perhaps people who don't remember or really care about Pearl Harbor don't because, as said before, it really didn't effect them all that much, or they don't really care too much about the soldiers who died, or whatever.


It appears that people have beat me to the point.
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 06:48 PM
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Of course, if you were living during the time period, it makes sense that Pearl Harbor would have had a much greater impact on your life, and so you would remember it much better than say, people of our age. The only times we hear about it is through history testbooks and perhaps through older generations, but we weren't actually there. We're not reminded of it every day of our lives, and it's not something we can really "participate" in.
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 06:50 PM
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Oh, I know, I agree. I was just saying that we can relate to how they felt. It's not like we're completely oblivious. But we were here on 9/11, and yet we still forget that.

Americans are selfish. That's also pretty sad. -_-'
 
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post Dec 7 2006, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(iRock cB @ Dec 7 2006, 6:50 PM) *
Oh, I know, I agree. I was just saying that we can relate to how they felt. It's not like we're completely oblivious. But we were here on 9/11, and yet we still forget that.

Americans are selfish. That's also pretty sad. -_-'

Like how "history repeat can repeat itself," eh. tongue.gif

But yeah, it usually isn't like the feeling is something we've never felt before.

Selfish people. ermm.gif
 
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QUOTE(iRock cB @ Dec 7 2006, 6:36 PM) *
Are you really that naive? That was like their 9/11. Of course we can relate.

Her point is that we remember less important things in general and forget what we should remember. Not that hard of a concept to grasp.


- Nevermind, I'll just leave it be. No need to stirr up an arguement thumbsup.gif

Well, that's just the way we are. Remembering the insignifcant, while forgetting the significant. Humans are only fallible, and will be for as long as they exist.
 

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