@ Mona Lisa, .fire, and cB in general. ;) Options

[fameONE]

This is somewhat entertaining.

[*digital.fragrance*]

Yep, this is just a forum.
And we don't control our members. That would be infringing upon their Consitutional rights

[Smoogrish]

I didn't know you kept tabs on us. So tell me, what "popularity contests" have you seen during hiring sessions here? There's a reason why someone is hired and why another is not. A thread for member input is always made and sometimes, it seems as though members suggest their friends based on friendship rather than good candidacy, but it doesn't mean all current mods will agree to promote him/her. Someone is promoted if we see good in him/her but if they fail to keep to their duties, they are asked to step down. Still not understanding the comment about popularity contests.

I don't see how mods are selected by popularity, either. Sure, at cB we ask for member input as to which people are potential candidates, but it's not the only deciding factor. We won't select incompetent people just because their friends said they would be great for the job. It's important to select staff based on dedication and capabilities, but if you're a community-driven site, what's the use of having mods that the community doesn't support?

I find that offensive, as I am Hindu.

Then you should grasp the concept behind the quote, and not be offended.

Okay, that is ridiculous beyond the point of comprehension. You complain that our members are rude? You come to cB, telling us our members are immature and offensive, and then insult people's religions? I don't see how one could possibly "grasp the concept behind the quote" and not be offended. What kind of puerile "concept" do you see in that? Sure, spamming for the sake of irritating people is pretty immature, but insulting people's religions is just inane.

Well, I don't get paid, but I'm definitely dedicated to this site. I love cB. A forum should be made to be a place where members can have fun. Not be oppressed by mods. That's not our job. We're here to watch you and make sure you follow the rules, but there's a difference in being a leader and a tyrant.

Brenden is right. Judging from the link that Rebecca posted, and reading through that whole conversation (pretty pathetic, hmm?), BR sounds controlling. I don't have any influence on the way you run things, but really. Step back and look at your situation. You have members leaving BR to come to cB, and why is that? It's not because of our members going to spam your forums, it's because they don't like the way you run things. Taking your drama from BR and dragging it over to cB isn't mature. Especially taking the time just to come over here, and attempt to turn our minds against Mic and Jamie. You can't just judge people from rumors you hear. I'm not taking sides, I'm just disturbed by the fact that your "friendly" mods came over to cB just to insult former members who perhaps just wanted a break from BR. No, you're not them, but if you're taking the actions of a few to judge all of us here at cB, how does that reflect on you?

[show_me]

should we get hijack ready?

[*T0rmented_Soul*]

Lol People are people. People can freely express them selves. If people feel that way about BR sure then why not express it. Here at cB people enjoy them selves. Make new friends. A happy community/Forum Mods here are great. and the People are wonderful. No one controls one another but every one respects the rules, and if they don't they well the pay the consequences.
I can aggree with the others here, your Rules over there may seem overwhelming and unfair. Don't be so limited and restricted. People don't like being around that kind of crowd. Loosen up. A forum is a forum. What point are you trying to prove.

[fameONE]

Remember when I got an entire dorm to join the 'Free BrandonSaunders' campaign?

I can organize that sort of chaos for BlogRing if need be. Would it be immature and childish? Of course it would be! Would we all get a laugh out it? Yes. And I'd promptly end it with making this so-called moderator look like a jackass.

But its just a thought.

If this were combat, we wouldn't have an issue at all.

[smoke]

should we get hijack ready?

No, that would be foolish and put flame to their fire. Just cool it. That's the best way. Please, don't give them any more reason to come over here and bother us.

[*T0rmented_Soul*]

lol cB is a great forum. and we have many talented people here. Like designers that attracts people here. people like their designs so they want to join our community, which is awesome. and full of uhhhm the special zing to it. lol

[clarity]

technically if someone came to BR to do what they wanted as they were also from cB, wouldn't it be the own persons responsibility for being a retard, not cB's? Because cB never told anyone to go over there and spam, so in reality you can't blame cB.








Pwned.

[*Statues/Shadows*]

I'm going to try stay out of this, but I cannot help point out that cB members have suggested that our modding methods were little more than popularity contests before.

Also a bit amusing how cB is "a great forum" when you have to defend it, but the rest of the time you complain about it being bored and whatnot.

Just saying. I've little pacience for hypocrites today.

[*digital.fragrance*]

I'm going to try stay out of this, but I cannot help point out that cB members have suggested that our modding methods were little more than popularity contests before.

Also a bit amusing how cB is "a great forum" when you have to defend it, but the rest of the time you complain about it being bored and whatnot.

Just saying. I've little pacience for hypocrites today.

Createblog is like the United States.

We're always griping and complaining about our government and it's methods, but in reality, it's one of the best places in the world to live. When people insult us, or kill thousands of people, all of us ban together and defend our homeland.

Kinda of a drastic comparison, but true none the less.

[Heathasm]

you have a good point digifrag

to you guys saying "its just the internet": the internet is a big part of my life. my bf hates it and thinks its stupid but he cant grasp the concept that places like cb helped me learn alot of things which will have a bigger effect on my life other than personality and having a good time in my spare time.

[*Statues/Shadows*]

No, not that drastic. I was kind of thinking the same thing as I typed it. However, that sort of thing annoys the hell out of me anyway, so meh.

And Heather, I agree. It's really bothersome how overused "it's just the internet" is overused when convenient for people.

But don't mind me, I'm pretty ticked off right now from completely irrelevant things.

[Simba]

to you guys saying "its just the internet": the internet is a big part of my life. my bf hates it and thinks its stupid but he cant grasp the concept that places like cb helped me learn alot of things which will have a bigger effect on my life other than personality and having a good time in my spare time.

I agree. The internet is a powerful medium. It's a place where you can express yourself, be heard out, acquire knowledge, kill some time, and all in all, it's a very effective business tool for people who do that kind of thing.

True, it's probably not too healthy to take the internet too seriously, except maybe if it really is that significant to you (I'm thinking mainly career-wise), though it's not "just the internet."

[Heathasm]

^^pretty much, im glad people agree ;o;

when you start hurting yourself or getting physically sick over shit like this then maybe you can poke fun at the people getting all into the topic.

other than that it just irritates me that people will come into a thread just to say its just the internet so they feel they have properly flamed everyone


and nate(god i hope thats your name, i know ive talked to you before but im not sure its right) you're right its way too overused -_-;

[EddieV]

Why don't we just make this easier for everyone. The strongest fighter of BR and CB come to NYC and duke it out. That way everyone's happy! I've perfected Raikiri.

I'm bored and sleepy.

[*kryogenix*]

Unless micron comes back, I root for the destruction of both.

[whomps]

WOW, lawlz man, just chill.

[Heathasm]

yes we need some kind of extremeeeee sport here to solve the dilema

[rAwritsgWeg]

Wow. So people really do these kinds of things. Hmm, I feel ashamed. The fact that we have people that go to another forum, and just say random/offensive things. Wow. Speechless

[Mistress Bags]

I'm not going to really say anything for either side, since as a member of both sites, I can see both perspectives.

However, I would like to add that on Blogring, we do not ban for silly reasons. In the past year and a half that I've been a moderator there, few people have ever been banned, and they have all been banned for good reasons. Opinions, no matter how ignorant they sometimes are, are always encouraged. We do, however, have to draw the line somewhere. Rules are rules, and that, I'm sure everyone can understand.

I definitely hold no hostile attitude towards cB, especially since I have many friends here, and I hope none here are ignorant and foolish enough to hold grudges against me for being a proud member of Blogring.

Cheer up, everyone. :)

[*chaneun*]

im just going to reply to this.


BR is making this even worse by complaining here about it. Admins, just ban them from BR. It's that simple. You don't have to come here to complain, as you might be provoking the members even more to go over to BR and spam.

And if you said "it's just the internet," then why do you spend hours on work to showcase here on the forums without pay?

I'm not defending any side or siding with anyone. :)
when's the hijack?

[*Statues/Shadows*]

^^pretty much, im glad people agree ;o;

when you start hurting yourself or getting physically sick over shit like this then maybe you can poke fun at the people getting all into the topic.

other than that it just irritates me that people will come into a thread just to say its just the internet so they feel they have properly flamed everyone
and nate(god i hope thats your name, i know ive talked to you before but im not sure its right) you're right its way too overused -_-;

Unless someone else said something about overused, I'm Nicki :waves: I guess you just hadn't been here since I changed usernames?

And Christine, I think you missed part of the point.

[*Libertie*]

I'm going to try stay out of this, but I cannot help point out that cB members have suggested that our modding methods were little more than popularity contests before.

Also a bit amusing how cB is "a great forum" when you have to defend it, but the rest of the time you complain about it being bored and whatnot.

Just saying. I've little pacience for hypocrites today.

My thoughts exactly. This is exhausting.

Also, Mic, I don't mind that you've come here to share your thoughts, but I don't feel that there's anything wrong with the systems we have in place for discipline and hiring. I don't think that's the issue here, but I don't see why we can't try to help out if that's what you want. Maybe we could punish people who are proven to have come there from here the same way we would if they were to spam on our forums?

[Vendetta_br]

You guys are making a really big deal over hiring process, mods, etc.

That was maybe 5% of my original post, and I don't know why you guys feel the need to vehemently defend cB, unless it's a twange of guilt. Again, in case any of you missed:

My purpose here is NOT to bash cB.

You're calling me rude and childish, which is fine, I expected that. I'm listening to the people that are legitimately arguing my points, and some of you argue very well, and I thank you for the thought.

But before I say anything else, for the handful of you who are saying

"OMG WTF TEH INTRAWEBS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS! WTF WHY IS THIS SUCH A BIG DEAL TO YOU DO YOU GET PAID OR SOMETHING OMG?!"

First, it IS serious business. It's serious business because, like the creators of cB, I've poured thousands of hours into the site, and, on my end, I know we've spent close to twenty thousand dollars in the past six months in hardware, firmware, code, back end, and front end upgrades. It's still a mess because we're not done, but it will look real nice when it's fixed up.

So yes, it's serious business. It's serious business because I have a fat wad of change and time in my site, so you'll have to excuse me if I roll my eyes at these comments. Unless you've taken on the monumental task of running a site like myself, or your mods and admins at cB have, then you really have no idea.

Although I've read two pages of 75% slander, some of you have seen past any indignation and anger to cut to the heart of my matter here.

Libertie actually summed it up in the last part of her post:

I don't think that's the issue here, but I don't see why we can't try to help out if that's what you want. Maybe we could punish people who are proven to have come there from here the same way we would if they were to spam on our forums?

That's all I'm asking, really. If I had BR members who blatantly came to cB to spam and cause havok, and if someone came to me and asked for help, you'd bet your ass I'd jump on it. Not because I like to punish people, but because it's the right thing to do. It's common courtesy. I don't see what's so unreasonable about doing this.

I think we've rather balkanised the situation, and it's something that's occured on both ends. Let's remember a coulpe things:

1) Other than my members typing in www.blogring.net, and you guys typing in www.createblog.com, we are exactly the same people. Both our sites members fit roughly the exact same age demagraphic, have the same interests, and generally are posessant the same personality traits. Had Mona Lisa came to BR, and posted exactly what i did here, the reaction, too, would have been the same.

2) Although feuding is all well and good, let's remember one thing. We sit at the top of a very large pyramid, and they're are a thousand other sites snapping at our ankles to try and topple us. Search anything myspace/xanga related, you're going to see two sites predominately:

Blogring, and Createblog. Do you know how hard we BOTH worked to get there? How hard it's going to be in the future, with the rising popularity of personal pages and blogs, to STAY there? We're on the top of the food chain, we can both take pride in that. But if we waste our time battling each other, you can also bet there will be scavengers and bottom feeders waiting to rip us apart.

3) Again, what I'm asking is not unreasonable. I'm not pointing a gun at your head and demanding you do this and not expect the same from myself. If there are problems, they need to be worked out. Talked out, discussed. Instead of arguing for pages, which I don't have a problem doing but don't see a point end, let's discuss the problem before us, and word on a legitimate solution, thusly shaking the foundations of the internets. Because I'm fairly sure working together has never been done online.

I'm just asking for the spam to stop. Some people here want to do it, I'm sure, they want to come to BR just to stir the bad air.

I can organize that sort of chaos for BlogRing if need be. Would it be immature and childish? Of course it would be! Would we all get a laugh out it? Yes. And I'd promptly end it with making this so-called moderator look like a jackass.

- BrandonSaunders

This is pretty much indicative of the attitude that shouldn't exist. Brandon, you'd be better to act as an example to your peers rather than some engine of havok. People would like you more, I would like you more, cB and BR would like you more, and you wouldn't make people think you were 12. And I'm not a "so-called moderator". The so-called moderators work for me. Thanks. ;)

It's the attitudes like this that don't exist on my site. Why? Because we encourage an atmosphere of acceptance. If every member of cB, like I said, came to BR with good intentions, they'd be welcomed with open arms.

Quit turning this into a "save teh respectz of cB" thread and let's treat it for what it really is:

I have a grievance, I need your help to work it out. I. Need. YOUR. Help. I can't do it on my own, that's why I'm coming to you.

But for those of you who aren't wanting to do that, who have just jumped the shark with the defense:

I cannot help point out that cB members have suggested that our modding methods were little more than popularity contests before.

Also a bit amusing how cB is "a great forum" when you have to defend it, but the rest of the time you complain about it being bored and whatnot.

Mirrored my thoughts.