Was the moon landing forreal? |
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 Sep 30 2006, 05:09 PM
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There was a topic like this before, but that one is dead and over two years old.. I thought that it needed a fresh start.
 Besides, most of the people who posted in it are inactive.http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12400 If you don't know about this, you can go to Wikipedia and research it. I still have not made up my mind yet, but I sort of think that it was all a hoax. So.. Do you think it was real or is it a conspiracy? |
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Sep 30 2006, 07:42 PM
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Does this look real to me? i don’t think so. haha.
I don’t think program like Photoshop existed back in the 50s. NASA probably didn’t have enough solid facts and evidence to prove it.  Anyways, i'm going to do some research. |
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Sep 30 2006, 07:46 PM
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We were discussing this in science class, I'm in a honors one so its free for debating within class unlike the normal one which is kind of odd. We were talking about how some people would like them to broadcast it once again, although NASA I think it is says that they don't need to because its already been done. I personally would find it neat to see it be done again, but since their refusing to do so I think it was just set. Like that red-bull commercial. If anyone has seen that, its kind of stupid but oh well.
I think it was fake, personally. If they were to shoot it again I may find it a little more realistic. I'm going to read up on it more too. |
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Sep 30 2006, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(Infinite. @ Sep 30 2006, 8:46 PM)  I think it was fake, personally. If they were to shoot it again I may find it a little more realistic. What do you mean by that? Do you mean like.. filming it again and then broadcasting it? QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Sep 30 2006, 8:42 PM) Does this look real to me? i don’t think so. haha. I don’t think program like Photoshop existed back in the 50s. They probably just covered up the back if the studio with a black background.. QUOTE NASA probably didn’t have enough solid facts and evidence to prove it. I hear they're supposed to have a mirror on the surface of the moon that reflects things.. Like they use a laser pointer and it reflects back. But I'd have to see it for myself to believe it. QUOTE Thursday, July 13, 2006: The original high-quality video tapes of Apollo 11, which were apparently sent by NASA to the National Archives and then were returned to the Goddard Space Flight Center, have gone missing (see the pdf by John M. Sarkissian). The quality of the video broadcast to the world on television was of much, much lower quality than the video originally received – or manufactured! - by NASA. Obviously, if you were going to fake the moon landing, you might have a motive to ‘lose’ the high-quality tapes, where artifacts of faking could be seen. This was by far the biggest moment in the American space program. You’d think they would care about hanging on to the evidence. http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm I found that pretty interesting.. That website is very one-sided though. It doesn't explain the other half of the story. |
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Oct 1 2006, 12:46 PM
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I dont think we ever landed on the moon. If we really did, why havent we been back? I think it was just so we could say we beat the Russians or something.
 I've seen video clips of the flag waving, and later on clips of the flag not moving. Shouldnt the flag be still, since there is no gravity on the moon? |
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Oct 1 2006, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(happykmd @ Oct 1 2006, 1:46 PM) I dont think we ever landed on the moon. If we really did, why havent we been back? They're planning another mission by 2020. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4261522.stm QUOTE(happykmd @ Oct 1 2006, 1:46 PM) I've seen video clips of the flag waving, and later on clips of the flag not moving. Shouldnt the flag be still, since there is no gravity on the moon? Well, I think that the astronaut moving the flag was probably why it was waving, but I'm not sure. I'm still undecided on this. 
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Oct 1 2006, 01:00 PM
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2020? oyyy.
 That would be cool if they actually did. But why not sooner? Do we not have the technology to do so? |
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Oct 1 2006, 01:02 PM
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It's probably some issues with the budget after Hurricane Katrina.
Besides, they have to plan these things. Like design the spacecraft and stuff like that. |
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Oct 1 2006, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(rawr SOCK @ Oct 1 2006, 2:02 PM) It's probably some issues with the budget after Hurricane Katrina. Besides, they have to plan these things. Like design the spacecraft and stuff like that. Thats true. I think its more of an issue with the war, than with Katrina. But how would Katrina or the war have an effect on space exploration? Wouldnt they still be receiving the same budget regardless? |
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Oct 1 2006, 01:10 PM
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The government probably wouldn't have enough money to spend on space exploration.
NASA has faced many budget cuts. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4070728.stm |
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Oct 1 2006, 06:58 PM
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It couldn't have been fake. Think of how many people the government would have had to bribe. Think of how many people might have confessed on their death beds that it was a hoax. The government would have to keep an eye on so many people and spend so much money that it would have been cheaper to just go to the Moon and film the landing.
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Oct 1 2006, 08:06 PM
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Why would there necessarily have to be alot of people in on it? People may have been paid off.
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Oct 1 2006, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(happykmd @ Oct 1 2006, 9:06 PM) Why would there necessarily have to be alot of people in on it? People may have been paid off. I'm saying, think of how many people would need to be paid off. And then how many of their family members and friends would have to monitored. |
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Oct 2 2006, 06:57 AM
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But what if they didn't know?
What if only the astronauts knew and the astronomers and engineers and everyone else thought it was real? |
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Oct 2 2006, 03:46 PM
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Yeah, thats what I was thinking. There wouldnt necessarily have to be that many people in on it.
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Oct 2 2006, 03:54 PM
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No, the people who built the set, camera men, etc (assuming you guys think it was filmed). Think of the credits in the movies, how many names are on that. Heck, even in a short cartoon, there are so many names.
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Oct 2 2006, 03:56 PM
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They could have blackmailed their families. Or threatened them.
Maybe they didn't even know it. |
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Oct 2 2006, 03:57 PM
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i would like to think that it was real but i don't. i think that's why most people are still ify about it because they don't want to think about our government lieing to us.
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Oct 2 2006, 05:59 PM
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Did you hear about how NASA lost the original tapes of the moon landing? They were being sent back to NASA from the Air & Space Smithsonian (I think it was a Smithsonian) and it was misplaced.
I think it's real. I mean, China went to the moon too. (Right?) So China staged their moon-landing too? Eh, I'll believe that it was real U.S. history. |
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Oct 2 2006, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(rawr SOCK @ Oct 2 2006, 4:56 PM) They could have blackmailed their families. Or threatened them. Maybe they didn't even know it. See, that's the thing about these conspiracy theories. There are so many "could haves" and "what ifs." Just the people involved alone, imagine how much it would have taken to keep an eye on them, bribe them, etc. And who cares if they were blackmailed, they could have just confessed on their death bed. And China didn't go to the moon (unless you're kidding). |
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Oct 2 2006, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(hardxcoreL0VER @ Oct 2 2006, 6:59 PM) Did you hear about how NASA lost the original tapes of the moon landing? They were being sent back to NASA from the Air & Space Smithsonian (I think it was a Smithsonian) and it was misplaced. I think it's real. I mean, China went to the moon too. (Right?) So China staged their moon-landing too? Eh, I'll believe that it was real U.S. history. I posted something about that. The 4th post. It's pretty convenient how they "misplaced" it. And I have never heard of China going to the moon. Their space program is CRAP. |
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Oct 2 2006, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(rawr SOCK @ Oct 2 2006, 7:03 PM) ^ I posted something about that. The 4th post. It's pretty convenient how they "misplaced" it. And I have never heard of China going to the moon. I'll go Google it now. The moon hoax theory has been around for a long time, the timing of NASA losing the tapes is meaningless. |
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Oct 2 2006, 06:09 PM
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Ok, the timing is meaningless, but they had a motive to "lose" the tapes.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm It's very one-sided, but it explains a lot. |
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Oct 2 2006, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(rawr SOCK @ Oct 2 2006, 4:03 PM) I posted something about that. The 4th post. It's pretty convenient how they "misplaced" it. And I have never heard of China going to the moon. Their space program is CRAP. Oh yeah, sorry about that. I just read like the first two posts & decided to reply. I Googled the China going to the moon thing and the first thing that came up was that China set goals of going to the moon. Sorry again. I didn't research anything on my previous reply. |
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Oct 3 2006, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(happykmd @ Oct 1 2006, 1:46 PM) I've seen video clips of the flag waving, and later on clips of the flag not moving. Shouldnt the flag be still, since there is no gravity on the moon? I think it's because there's no wind on the moon. (Which is supposedly why the astronauts' footprints are still there, so they say.)  While I find the universe to be quite interesting, I honestly DO NOT see ANY point in the "Space Race" except to fufill human curiosity. Whatever we find out isn't going to affect us in any way, and I don't understand why we have to put so much money into it. If anything, if we really went to the moon, the reason - "beating" the Russians - was completely stupid. Anyways, that's my rant on that. As for the mission being faked, perhaps. I mean, people saw the spaceship liftoff and everything, didn't they? So you're saying that they had to plan a secret place for the spaceship to land and everything? If this is true, then that is sad, wasting so much money only to get Americans' spirits up just a bit higher. How incredibly pathetic. I really hope the government and NASA were not that stupid. |
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