Moderator Performance, V.2, Suggestions/Complaints/Compliments Options

[*Azarel*]

Shes a mentor now. I don't know how big of a job that really is once your that. I know you can't do as much as a normal mod can.
And Roxy? is one as well
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showuser=797

And I see Sammi around a lot more than Roxy.
Sammi posts in the lounge, interest subforums, pictures. Almost everywhere. So you can't exactly say she doesn't post anywhere but backstage.
Excuse me if I repeat anything, or something doesn't make any sense. I'm sick once again.

But the point is that while Roxanne was on staff, she did a lot with contributing and being active and dealing with issues (spamming was big at the time); Sammi was moved around staff a lot before finally being promoted, and then after I pointed out all that was wrong, admitted that I was right and stepped down (which was a respectful thing to do, like the [theoretical] situation that Keira mentioned) But when she was then again changed to mentor, I was not the only one irked (as was discussed in the chatroom some time).

Also, as much as I adore and miss Christina (Just_Dream), I don't understand why she's a mentor, seeing as how she hasn't even been to the forums in two and half, nearing three months. At least Roxy is still around once in a while and does put in her two cents (like last hiring).

Kathleen, no one thinks that you are stating your concerns out of resentment. I know I don't. I would also like to thank you for pointing out that design staff is active. I'm not sure if it was your intention, but hearing something nice in all this is very appreciated.

Also, I don't think that being close with fellow staff members necessarily equates to being withdrawn from the community. It is possible to do both. I think Dani is a good example of that.

I may regret asking this, but can you guys point out some examples of the immaturity that has you concerned. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, it would just help pin-point a little better. That's all. That goes for activity concerns as well.

You (all of you) are a part of the community here and it's important that these things get straightened out one way or another.

Unfortunately, Dani is one of the the only examples, Suzzette, Jesus, Robbi, and Radhika being the others, which is barely even a fourth of the moderating team.

And sure.

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You should probably warn me. Oh wait.... you can't.

Right. Because we're the elite and all. Ooooooh [/sarcasm

*shakes hands*
Oooooooohhhh
[/sarcasm]
Fine. Whatever.

And the banter between Seon Ho & Brenden located here.

Sammi is a mentor, as mentioned above.
Though, i'm not 100% sure if you can get kicked off staff for being inactive as a mentor. You would have to ask Keira or Mona about that, as Holly pointed out, do notice that Roxy is a mentor.
And Sammi has been active, I see her around all over the place.
And she does a lot, and puts in her opinion on tons of subjects that are brought up, and her opinion matters.

As for me, I believe I have been active, especially lately, as well as doing my job around the community. However, you have your opinion and I have mine. If you would like, PM Mona or Keira about my inactivity.

There's a difference between actively posting and actively modding; I've already talked to them both about your activty (or rather, lack thereof). To be honest, I don't take anything you say to heart because really now, I know about what goes on backstage, and I mean this in the most civil way possible: do shut up.

[*Zatanna*]

LOL (I was expecting to be quoted on that one). I should have clarified though. What I was looking for was something a bit more consistent. I don't think that the tone I used in that particular remark (including the smilies I posted in AS that evening) is a tone I use often. I was angry at the time. Not that that's an excuse, but still. We all have momentary lapses of immaturity. Is there someone who consistently acts in an immature fashion?

And seriously, thank you for your response.

[KissMe2408]

There's a difference between actively posting and actively modding; I've already talked to them both about your activty (or rather, lack thereof). To be honest, I don't take anything you say to heart because really now, I know about what goes on backstage, and I mean this in the most civil way possible: do shut up.[/size][/font]

You did want feedback from the moderators, did you not?
If I shut up then I probably will be yelled at later [probably by you] that i'm not expressing my opinion enough as a staff member.

And how is it, Anna, that you know so much about what goes on backstage?
To be honest, I could not care less if you took what I said to heart or not.
I was just wondering if those people you listed [Sammi and I] was a list of people that are inactive right now as mods, or simply a list of people you aren't too fond of that happen to be on staff.

[*Azarel*]

LOL (I was expecting to be quoted on that one). I should have clarified though. What I was looking for was something a bit more consistent. I don't think that the tone I used in that particular remark is a tone I use often. I was angry at the time. Not that that's an excuse, but still. We all have momentary lapses of immaturity. Is there someone who consistently acts in an immature fashion?

And seriously, thank you for your response.

Amen to that; mine was just earlier in this thread. >_>

And consistently? No, but I was still a bit shocked that a mod wasn't be higher than that. I mean, come on; even I wouldn't argue with Seon Ho, despite how much I love a good argument. He's just.. dude, he's Seon Ho; why even bother taking him seriously?

You did want feedback from the moderators, did you not?
If I shut up then I probably will be yelled at later [probably by you] that i'm not expressing my opinion enough as a staff member.

And how is it, Anna, that you know so much about what goes on backstage?
To be honest, I could not care less if you took what I said to heart or not.
I was just wondering if those people you listed [Sammi and I] was a list of people that are inactive right now as mods, or simply a list of people you aren't too fond of that happen to be on staff.

Oh, but I'm not at liberty to say, really; I have my ways. And no, there are people that I'm not entirely fond of on staff, but they do their jobs (efficiently, at that). I'm not that low, Katie. Thanks much.

[*This Confession*]

Oh, but I'm not at liberty to say, really; I have my ways. And no, there are people that I'm not entirely fond of on staff, but they do their jobs (efficiently, at that). I'm not that low, Katie. Thanks much.

Like whom? If you have some special way of getting backstage, then aparently you shoudl receive the same warnings as others have gotten for getting back there in the past. Or "Hacking" into others accounts to get back there.

[*Azarel*]

Like whom? If you have some special way of getting backstage, then aparently you shoudl receive the same warnings as others have gotten for getting back there in the past. Or "Hacking" into others accounts to get back there.

Like I don't know that. I've been suspended before for it, hon; I'll take the risks that I wanna take. And btw, I don't hack.

And you really want to know? I'm not big on Mona, for one, but we're civil. I resent Carrie for something she said backstage in January, and though I hold it against her, it doesn't affect my judgement of her modding capabilities. As can be seen, I don't necessarily get along with Kristina and she may not like me, but we both know that she's a good moderator.

On the flipside, there's someone I don't hate on staff who I don't think has shown good judgement in some of the moderator actions they've performed, but was just modded so I've been keeping my mouth shut about that for now.

[*disco infiltrator*]

!?!?

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...sult_type=posts

...What else am I supposed to do as a Mentor other than post? I have NO moderator abilities...A mentor is pretty much a regular member. I'm kind of flabbergasted right now as to what duties I'm supposed to be fulfilling (none?). I don't only post Backstage; not nearly. I very frequently visit the Lounge, Entertainment, Debate, and Pictures, as well as visiting other forums, just not as consistently. And I really don't see why it matters where I post. I'm not a moderator. There shouldn't even be mention of me in this thread as it's for moderator performance and I'm not a moderator. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I, too, have contributed to this forum and have spent quite a lot of time here. I think it's rather ridiculous to call me out on where I post. It has no effect on anything.

[*Azarel*]

!?!?

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...sult_type=posts

...What else am I supposed to do as a Mentor other than post? I have NO moderator abilities...A mentor is pretty much a regular member. I'm kind of flabbergasted right now as to what duties I'm supposed to be fulfilling (none?). I don't only post Backstage; not nearly. I very frequently visit the Lounge, Entertainment, Debate, and Pictures, as well as visiting other forums, just not as consistently. And I really don't see why it matters where I post. I'm not a moderator. There shouldn't even be mention of me in this thread as it's for moderator performance and I'm not a moderator. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I, too, have contributed to this forum and have spent quite a lot of time here. I think it's rather ridiculous to call me out on where I post. It has no effect on anything.

Mentor a situation when needed and we can go to them for advice.

I hardly, if ever, see you advise on issues; I didn't say that you only post backstage, althugh I do see how one of my previous posts could've been interpreted that way. I meant that when you do post backstage, you don't post in any of the topics there other than the chat topic.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Yes...I do. Just not the ones that don't apply to me (ex. a notice on how warnings will now be handled). In fact, I just posted in a thread about a certain member and I have also posted in a thread concerning the dwindling numbers on the staff team, another thread concerning what to do about a certain member, a thread asking if some new staff guidelines are good to implement, and a thread concerning the yearbook superlatives, and that's all in the first ten topics up there. The ones I have not posted in are a thread about warnings, a thread about what to do with the spamming going on the superlatives thread (more warnings, etc.), another thread about guidelines with warnings, one thread concerning a certain member (by the time I had gotten to the topic, the issue had been dealt with), and a thread about advertising and to watch out for it (something I can't do anything about). I also frequently watch/post in this thread.

[*Azarel*]

In that case, I apologize.

Note to self--need to step it up. >_>;

[Nymphetamine]

Actually Anna, I consider Sammi to be VERY active and I think she's doing her job.

*sigh* Fight people.

[technicolour]

LOL (I was expecting to be quoted on that one). I should have clarified though. What I was looking for was something a bit more consistent. I don't think that the tone I used in that particular remark (including the smilies I posted in AS that evening) is a tone I use often. I was angry at the time. Not that that's an excuse, but still. We all have momentary lapses of immaturity. Is there someone who consistently acts in an immature fashion?

And seriously, thank you for your response.

Yeah..boy..*scratches head*

My quotes from Anna only show how much of a smart ass I am sometimes. Its just sometimes, Anna, you kind of rub people the wrong way. And me being the pathetic debater that I am, just makes it worse when I try to say something. Everyone does that though at points. And I do try my hardest to be civil with you. And everyone else. Keyword being try. Everyone has their moments.

As can be seen, I don't necessarily get along with Kristina and she may not like me, but we both know that she's a good moderator.

We can both be civil, though, right? And thanks.

[*I Shot JFK*]

^ i would have used dumbass, myself, but sure.

Furthermore, mona, as it happens, i didnt show the pm you were refering to to anna. i already told you it was worthless, and saw no reason to inflict it on others.

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And here is a general point... Why do we even HAVE mentors? i mean... for the most part, they are the people who have come to the end of their time on cb, and stopped being admin/headstaff for whatever reason, usually because they werent active... why WOULD anyone ask them for advice if they are never here? sammi being an exception in this case.

and also, i think the problem, if you want to call it that, that i had with sammi being made a mentor was the fact that she was never an admin... i mean, frankie, eve, and nicki (just for kicks) were all head staff who stepped down, and none of them are mentors, despite the fact that they were all better mods during their time... that was why i questioned it.

Oh, and for the record, as if ANYONE is going to tell you how we are getting information about backstage at any particular time. honestly. i mean, wishful thinking, sure, but COME ON.

[*Zatanna*]

Here is my (not requested, I know) opinion on the whole we can see what goes on Backstage but will never ever tell you how situation (not really a 'situation,' but for lack of eloquence it's being used).

If people want to see or hear what goes on Backstage, they'll find a way. Nothing on the internet is completely invulnerable (be it having things repeated or somehow seeing things for themselves) and the second you post anything, anywhere you risk what you post being read or repeated. That's just reality.

Having said that, I will never understand why. You know you shouldn't, you know it isn't cool and you know we know you're doing it. If anyone didn't, they certainly do know now (if they read this thread). Again, I wouldn't be stuck on the how, it's the why. Especially when it's clear that you do not like the majority of staff. Why would you want to read our posts back there? I mean, to each his/her own. But still.

And at this point, I'm sorry guys, but I'm sort of over it (the Backstage conversation, that is).

So can we move on from the whole Backstage intrigue or lack thereof and just evaluate moderator performance, for better or for worse?

(I'm not trying to have an attitude about it, I just see that type of conversation going in circles)

[*mona lisa*]

The mentor idea was introduced after Frankie, Eve, and Nicki left. It was originally for ex-admins but it was Ju-Sun who had asked Sammi about being a mentor even though she was head staff (which isn't a bad idea). Roxy comes back once in a while and when she does post Backstage, it's useful. But Christina hasn't even been on...

[*disco infiltrator*]

It seems like people think I asked to be a mentor or something. I didn't. If I still had them, I'd show you the PMs...Jusun PMed me all, "What's going on? You've been here so long, this sucks, etc." so I explained my thoughts on it and he offered me the mentor position. I asked, as you all did, "Isn't that just for Admins?..." and he said, "Well, normally, but it can be for Head Staff too". So like...why would I say no? I don't really see what difference it makes to anyone else whether I'm a mentor or a member...it's not like I'm taking a position from someone else who could have it. You don't apply to be a mentor or anything. If everyone really cares THAT MUCH whether I can see Backstage or not, then I won't be a mentor and I'll just PM stuff to get my opinions in; seeing Backstage is really not that big of a deal.

[*Kathleen*]

The mentor idea was introduced after Frankie, Eve, and Nicki left. It was originally for ex-admins but it was Ju-Sun who had asked Sammi about being a mentor even though she was head staff (which isn't a bad idea). Roxy comes back once in a while and when she does post Backstage, it's useful. But Christina hasn't even been on...

Ex-admins? Doesn't apply now, does it?

[*mona lisa*]

Ex-admins? Doesn't apply now, does it?

As I said, the idea was introduced after those three mentioned had left and was obviously long after you had been gone. And only Ju-Sun can can bump someone to a mentor position.

[smoke]

And the banter between Seon Ho & Brenden located here.

Aw, cool! I was waiting for Anna to pick on me.

I think it's silly that I'm not allowed to defend myself just because I am a mod whether it be against Sean Ho or not. And your right. It is Sean Ho. I was just lightheartedly arguing with him and you picked that up as being "immature." Honestly, I think you need to lighten up a bit. Sean Ho understood I was being sarcastic and he replied in a sarcastic manner. You can't take anything real serious with that guy. I ended the argument and tried to continue the conversation in PMs with Sean Ho but I never got a response back.

Anyway, as for the activeness of mods, I also have a problem with it and I try to encourage mods to get on more. I have been trying my very, very best to be on here as much as possible. Hopefully my best is good enough for you but keep in mind that I do have a life. I'm not exactly sure why mods haven't been as active but all in all, how is it effecting cB? Everything seems to be running real smoothly. Instead of just bringing up the fact that mods aren't as active, explain to me where it's creating a problem? Now I'm not saying that excuses them. It doesn't at all. I'm just curious. If you're so concerned about the activity then you must see the effect it's having on createBlog, right? Show me the effect.

[*I Shot JFK*]

Mona, the specific mentor title may be relatively new, but the idea isnt. Seon Ho and Roxy were both advisors at one point, and then became mentors when the role of advisor was changed to incorporate Ed and whatshisface. So that response doesnt wash.

[*mona lisa*]

If Kathleen wants to be a mentor, she can PM an admin/Ju-Sun. I think admins can in this case because she is currently an official member and not an admin.

[Spirited Away]

Ah, you lovelies have already finished this discussion but I want to butt in because... I'm a butt. Yeah?

Why can't a mod step down if he/she is so busy with non-cB life and try to get back on staff again after the chaos in his/her life ended? If life outside of cB is so important as it has been said again and again (by myself as well when I was on staff), why risk adding cB to the load when cB doesn't take priority?

I guess this is more of an individual question. Meaning, those who have claimed that school is a deterrent for cB participation, why give yourself more trouble? I don't get it.

Kiera said she'd step down the moment cB interferes greatly with school. I admire her for being able to admit that, because it seems not many mods can say the same. Ah, but for those who are stay active with both cB and non-cB life no matter how hectic, kudos to your skillful time management!

Ah, that's all. I haven't been around that much to contribute further. Oh yea, hello my old (young) friends~~ *Rereads to make grammar is correct else Anna will start with the fob labeling*

[*I Shot JFK*]

^ *manic fae love*

[*This Confession*]

Well a lot of mids do step down because of their personal life, but they have all intention of trying to come back and be on staff once they have enough time for it.

[*I Shot JFK*]

^ Yes, and that i sa good think. so why dont the REST of the mods do that, instead of hanging around and being inactive so that the other mods have to defend them constantly. It's inconsiderate to their fellow mods and the members.