issue., i'm sure this has been brought up dozens of times.. Options

[nothing_plus_thi...]

stealing, jocking, theft, copyright infringement.

it's all been a pretty big problem here on createblog. tons of graphics and layouts have been created using images from sites such as photobucket (from random peoples' albums), deviantart, threadless, naked&angry, artists' websites, etc. all copyrighted material. material that is not stock material. and taking complete credit for it.

and i don't really care if there is a thread already about this or if it was mentioned in another thread. because. well. i just don't feel like going through and responding with something that will never be read, bringing back a thread that is long dead, or simply watching people talk about it and not do anything.

i think that while the admin and mods are doing their little "house cleaning", they should REALLY concentrate on removing submissions that contain stolen images. because this site should not condone these things.

i also think that a field should be added to submission forms for credit giving. even if what someone used IS stock photography or otherwise free-to-use material, credit should be given. and i believe that if people were to see an entire space dedicated to giving such credit, they would tend to do it more.

this website should be fair and follow copyright rules in all areas. because i've seen plenty of people complaining about other websites "jocking" from createblog. why not stop being hypocrites and set an example for such sites?

[*Kathleen*]

Uhh sorry. I know I'm interjecting here, and I agree with nothing plus this and everything (the credit/link thing whatever, that's an awsome idea), and this post of yours:

okay. i know that admin/mods are very busy and that they cannot keep track of every submission. i just think that some of the things, particularly graphics, are very obviously images that have not been created by anyone on createblog.

but anyway. since i understand the time constraints and pressures of the admin here on cb, i took some of my time to go through some of the sections. let's start with graphics.

i went through every single page of graphics. and here are the submissions i found that were stolen/jocked/whatever. i'm sure there are lots more. but these were the ones i absolutely KNEW where the originals came from.

(i made this list in editpad as i went along, and i really don't feel like making all the links...well, links. so. copy and paste, yeah?

http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=9579
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/11344458/

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=11002
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/224575...me+-in%3Ascraps

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=8267
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/331640...me+-in%3Ascraps

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=7883
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19194080/

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=4391
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19967666/

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=5665
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/522882...me+-in%3Ascraps
or: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/833876...me+-in%3Ascraps

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=984
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/17233172/

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=306
taken from: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=306

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=1162
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/30259794/
and besides those, i found several submissions that were submitted 2 & three times. so, i'm assuming that no one here on cb made them and that they are from somewhere else and that no one had permission to take credit for them as their own work.

this: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=3491
is the same as this: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=5924

this: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=6346
is the same as this: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=9673
and then! there are the ones that i cannot track down the originals of, but i KNOW they were not created by anyone (that i KNOW of) here on cb. yet, here they are! submitted, accepted, and being stolen.
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=2051 - from threadless.
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=11406 - from naked and angry.
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=2711 - from deviantart. is no longer in the gallery it was in. i had it in my favourites. but, i honestly can't remember if it was stock or not. asklgh.
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=328 - from naked and angry.

I know that Kristina rejected them all (*high five* ), but am I the only one that can uhh spot these ones out without even visiting DeviantArt? I mean.. I guess again, my bad with the lack of confessing this beforehand, but I guess I got inspired by the recent jocking of my current layout (AND MY GODDAMN ABOUT ME SECTION [/rant]). I don't know. Perhaps before accepting.. we should either do something about looking into the actual user? I mean, I understand that they could possibly be the actual artist themselves, but the chances are unlikely, as aforementioned.

You're probably thinking that I'm crazy, because you guys see so many submissions in one day (trust me, I've been there). I'm merely suggesting something in that route. I mean, my brain's a bit.. off at four in the morning, but I think we should look into stock photos or "graphics" that are submitted here beforehand.. or something. I don't know.. it's just that A LOT of those stock photos used in layouts and designs have the same kind of style to it.. and then they're submitted by absolute nobodies. That word looks odd, and there's no definition for it on Google, but you know what I mean.

So yeah.. I don't know.. did anyone understand that?

[demolished]

i spotted unoriginal one with credit. why are you including that?

btw, i did not read the whole topic.

[Andrew2]

Someone already got to those.

Yet they aren't removed :(

[nothing_plus_thi...]

i spotted unoriginal one with credit. why are you including that?

btw, i did not read the whole topic.

i am assuming you are referring to my list... well. if i did happen to include one that did indeed give credit. it was because whatever image they used...was not meant to be used by anyone.

i know this was meant to be said earlier in the topic, but just because credit is given, you plan on giving credit, or you always give credit when you take images from other sites...it still does not mean you are allowed to take them. copyright is copyright. stealing is stealing. by giving credit, you are simply announcing that you are stealing to everyone. which brings me to this: the point of the credit field, once again, would be for people using available and legal materials to give the credit a majority of resource sites require. (and deserve!!!).

as for what kathleen had to say, yes. i knew absolutely right away that what i listed was from deviantart (the time consuming and frustrating part came with having to track down each original image). my sister and i both have accounts on da and have for a few years now. so i'm definitely familiar with the popular pieces. which is what people always seem to steal. which makes no sense to me, personally. i mean. if you're going to go right out and steal something without even thinking twice. you should at least think it out a little and steal something a little less wellknown.

and, i also want to reiterate that...being INSPIRED is not the same as taking an exact image. for anyone just popping in to get the gist of this thread and gets scared that their obviously inspired works are going to be picked on and deleted. i would never pick on a piece that is truly inspired. i think that is a tribute and admirable for the most part. to recreate part of something you admire, on your own from scratch, is a very rewarding task for most people. and i understand the urge to share that with others. i'm just not entirely sure where i stand on supplying such things to the general public under the false pretense that it came straight, 100% out of your own head. AGAIN, credit should be given and your inspirations should be listed. so other people may have the chance to experience them as you did. it is a good thing. it is just another part of sharing. what this entire community is about.

[*mona lisa*]

Yet they aren't removed :(

You can still see them? I removed those three yesterday.
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I sometimes recognize submissions from deviantART. I don't browse through it as much as I used to before, but I've noticed that most deviations have a thick border with a name or website. I've seen a few like those in the queue and rejected them right away.
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And yes, we have to stress that when you give credit, you should be using resources that are meant to be used. That as well as getting some form of permission allowing you to use it if the designer says something like 'ask me if you want to use it for ____'.

[Andrew2]

Yeah i can see those 3 layouts fine and dandy.



hah.

[*Kathleen*]

Okay, yeah I just read all of that. And uhh for the record, I've been on DA about twice in my entire life.. I was talking about how the popular pieces (as you said) are pretty easy to spot. Like I said, a NOBODY on this site who submits an ehh-ish layout that has.. not much actual design to it (other than copy, resize, and paste with some color) is obviously stealing someone else's.

[nothing_plus_thi...]

yeah.. i imagine i tried to say that earlier. or something along those lines. but, the whole "big players on devart would never submit to createblog" thing came out first. it still sounds mean to me. but, i swear. i don't mean it like that.

[Andrew2]

yeah.. i imagine i tried to say that earlier. or something along those lines. but, the whole "big players on devart would never submit to createblog" thing came out first. it still sounds mean to me. but, i swear. i don't mean it like that.

I don't think it's mean if it's the truth. Createblog wasn't made for those people, cus those people are looking to get the word out on who they are..While createblog was intended for a resource site to get stuff from...I hope that doesn't sound mean either but, you know. :-/

Each site was created with different intentions, and those viewers go their for those intentions. :)

[demolished]

i am assuming you are referring to my list... well. if i did happen to include one that did indeed give credit. it was because whatever image they used...was not meant to be used by anyone.

i know this was meant to be said earlier in the topic, but just because credit is given, you plan on giving credit, or you always give credit when you take images from other sites...it still does not mean you are allowed to take them. copyright is copyright. stealing is stealing. by giving credit, you are simply announcing that you are stealing to everyone. which brings me to this: the point of the credit field, once again, would be for people using available and legal materials to give the credit a majority of resource sites require. (and deserve!!!).

as for what kathleen had to say, yes. i knew absolutely right away that what i listed was from deviantart (the time consuming and frustrating part came with having to track down each original image). my sister and i both have accounts on da and have for a few years now. so i'm definitely familiar with the popular pieces. which is what people always seem to steal. which makes no sense to me, personally. i mean. if you're going to go right out and steal something without even thinking twice. you should at least think it out a little and steal something a little less wellknown.

and, i also want to reiterate that...being INSPIRED is not the same as taking an exact image. for anyone just popping in to get the gist of this thread and gets scared that their obviously inspired works are going to be picked on and deleted. i would never pick on a piece that is truly inspired. i think that is a tribute and admirable for the most part. to recreate part of something you admire, on your own from scratch, is a very rewarding task for most people. and i understand the urge to share that with others. i'm just not entirely sure where i stand on supplying such things to the general public under the false pretense that it came straight, 100% out of your own head. AGAIN, credit should be given and your inspirations should be listed. so other people may have the chance to experience them as you did. it is a good thing. it is just another part of sharing. what this entire community is about.

i agreed what you say.

Specifically, i was referring to this one; http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=9579

as you mentioned, giving credit is announcing to everyone that you steal it, right?

[Andrew2]

i agreed what you say.

Specifically, i was referring to this one; http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=9579

as you mentioned, giving credit is announcing to everyone that you steal it, right?

I think if they credited free stock/resources to use, then it's okay but yeah..Crediting Artwork you used in your stuff is a good way to let people know where you stole it from