Rules... what constitutes PG-13, I don't understand... Options

[*Uronacid*]

Alright, ever since I have been on create blog people have been posting away, cussing, and making sexual passes at eachother... talking about spiting and swallowing and showing off their tits... I don't want to see this change, in fact... I think it's very intresting, but I think it's rediculous when topics like this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=146208

:are closed, and are considered inapropriate. Topics like this, where someone is asking a question that if asked in a serious manner (which it was), and being a topic that does come up in a boys locker room, is deffinitly PG-13.

and topics like this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=113799

:are left open. Under-aged girls are posting pictures of their breasts on the internet while guys between the ages of 12-25 look and drool.

I mean, it just seems so rediculous. It pisses me off to see something so normal being discussed in a boy's locker room being discussed there, when admin's come along and close the topic... (I have nothing against the admin who did it)... Kathleen just jumps in there and posts about why the topic should be closed in big bold print. Why, is Kathleen jumping arounf in the boy's locker-room talking about why topics should be closed? I have no idea... why should girls have a say in what topics are inappropriate in the guys locker-room? Some topics that guys talk about are totally normal for them to talk about between each-other, and are deffinitly pg 13 if talked about in a serious manner... I don't see guys jumping from topic to topic in the girls locker room talking about how their topics should be closed... Look, personaly I think this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=143178
(btw, look what kathleen said in this topic)

isnt much different than this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=146208

yet she totally bashs ours, and our topic gets the close-out... I mean, cmon

how about this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=143392

when you suck a penis, do you spit out the spunk or do you swallow it? Is this pg-13.... get real, you guys are so unfair to the guys locker room...

I have been meaning to bring this up for a while.. I guess I just never did, becuase I felt that you guys would just start closes all the intresting sexual topics out there... being a teenager, sex is one of the most intresting things that there is, and I don't want to see this aspect of create blog get taken away... All i want is for people to treat the boy's lockeroom with the same respect as the girls locker room... I think it's rediculous, how we are literally treated differently....

[no-name]

and topics like this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=113799

You know what's funny about that topic. A mod actually statred that topic and that is the 3rd topic like that

[Simba]

In that "In General" topic. I actually closed that because there were already topics out there on it, excusing that last question. As for the last question, in past topics it was deemed inappropriate. But then I guess this is why you made this post.

[*Uronacid*]

In that "In General" topic. I actually closed that because there were already topics out there on it, excusing that last question. As for the last question, in past topics it was deemed inappropriate. But then I guess this is why you made this post.

The topics that were brought up were about masterbation in general... not maturbation for GUYS ONLY. This is totaly different, and that is why it is not the same.... LOOK THE OLD ONE DOESNT EVEN CONTAIN A POLL!!! It was a mere conicidence that the gay/bi/straight thing was included, and as for the last poll beign inappropriate... WHAT SERIOUSLY DEEMS IT INAPPROPRIATE WHEN PEOPLE ARE MAKING TOPICS ABOUT SPITTING AND SWALLOWING SEMEN IN THE GIRLS LOCKER-ROOM. I don't have a problem with them making topics about that, but I do have a problem if they can post things like that, and we cannot.

Also, if you notice, I commented about the post recently made about mastubation in the girls locker-room (http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=143178). How come that wasn't closed... you mean to tell me that a mastubation topic was not created in the girls locker room until July 17th 2006?

You know what's funny about that topic. A mod actually statred that topic and that is the 3rd topic like that

Exactly!, if mods ar making topics where girls are posting pictures of there breasts while people drool over them... why can't we as guys share that kind of info with eachother...

[oXMuhNirvanaXo]

nvm I got confused. I think every one should have the same rights as every one else.

[*Uronacid*]

nvm I got confused. I think every one should have the same rights as every one else.

I agree.. this is rediculous...

[oXMuhNirvanaXo]

Exactly!, if mods ar making topics where girls are posting pictures of there breasts while people drool over them... why can't we as guys share that kind of info with eachother...


Buts its not like you can post a picture of a penis on here.

[*Azarel*]

Okay, first of all, let's establish that this thread was not closed because it was inappropriate; it was closed because it is a duplicate topic. The second thing we should establish is that both the boys' locker and the girls' locker are lightly moderated, and thus littered with many (many) topics that should either be closed or merged due to its impropriety or duplicity. (Which is why that spit or swallow thread is still open.)

Kathleen's post was not about why the topic should be closed, but rather on the content of your specific post because it does not pertain to or contribute to the original topic. I'm not trying to side with Kathleen because she is my friend, and yes, the large font was unneccessary, but it seems more like you harbor a personal grudge (well, we all already know that) and are trying to shed bad light on Kathleen, so let's not make this thread a personal attack.

Another thing: nowhere does it state that girls are not allowed in the boys' locker and vice versa; if you think that they shouldn't be allowed to visit each other's lockers, than perhaps you should head over to Blogring, where doing so is prohibited. It's been long known that the girls of the site skew the statistics of all the polls in the guys' locker.

The sexy chest thread is not restricted to only females posting; after all, many guys do post their pecs/abs in the thread. However, I concede that you may be right on how appropriate it is.

Again, I'm restating that the masturbation topic was not closed because it was not PG-13, because a lot of your argument rests on the male masturbation topics being considered inappropriate and female masturbation topics appropriate.

Also, yes, there are topics in the lockers that may be pg-13 if discussed in a serious matter. However, most of cB is not mature enough to so, which is why said topics are closed.

[*Kathleen*]

Alright, ever since I have been on create blog people have been posting away, cussing, and making sexual passes at eachother... talking about spiting and swallowing and showing off their tits... I don't want to see this change, in fact... I think it's very intresting, but I think it's rediculous when topics like this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=146208

:are closed, and are considered inapropriate. Topics like this, where someone is asking a question that if asked in a serious manner (which it was), and being a topic that does come up in a boys locker room, is deffinitly PG-13.

*definitely
But more to the point. There are entirely TOO many threads revolving around that subject. I figured if you REALLY felt the urge to discuss masturbation, you can post in one of those other threads. I added (in that thread) that it was ruled out as not being PG-13 before - when did I ever say that I agreed with it? I was simply stating how it is. Jesus said so in his post here, when he said:

In that "In General" topic. I actually closed that because there were already topics out there on it, excusing that last question. As for the last question, in past topics it was deemed inappropriate. But then I guess this is why you made this post.

and topics like this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=113799

:are left open. Under-aged girls are posting pictures of their breasts on the internet while guys between the ages of 12-25 look and drool.

I honestly don't like that thread, but I've said many things that haven't gotten done. I figured that would've been a wasted attempt either. Have I ever supported it with a picture of my chest in there? No. I completely agree with you.

I mean, it just seems so rediculous. It pisses me off to see something so normal being discussed in a boy's locker room being discussed there, when admin's come along and close the topic... (I have nothing against the admin who did it)... Kathleen just jumps in there and posts about why the topic should be closed in big bold print. Why, is Kathleen jumping arounf in the boy's locker-room talking about why topics should be closed?

If you noticed, I didn't target the Boys' Locker. I was also picking out topics in Relationships and Girls' Locker, as well as pointing out signatures and spammers. Thanks for giving me the courtesy of reading my entire thread, as I've done with you here. [/sarcasm]

I have no idea... why should girls have a say in what topics are inappropriate in the guys locker-room? Some topics that guys talk about are totally normal for them to talk about between each-other, and are deffinitly pg 13 if talked about in a serious manner... I don't see guys jumping from topic to topic in the girls locker room talking about how their topics should be closed...

Uhm. So why am I the only girl you're calling out from the Boys' Locker? The guys "invade" ours as well. It's not an ACTUAL locker room, you silly silly boy.

Look, personaly I think this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=143178
(btw, look what kathleen said in this topic)

isnt much different than this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=146208

yet she totally bashs ours, and our topic gets the close-out... I mean, cmon

What I said in that topic? IT WAS A JOKE. Way to sense facetiousness, buddy.

how about this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=143392

when you suck a penis, do you spit out the spunk or do you swallow it? Is this pg-13.... get real, you guys are so unfair to the guys locker room...

I know I've questioned that. I'm pretty sure it's been questioned by other members as well. I have no idea why the moderators haven't closed that. I agree. I think that topic should've been closed ages ago as well. I can gladly add it in my topic, if you'd like.

I have been meaning to bring this up for a while.. I guess I just never did, becuase I felt that you guys would just start closes all the intresting sexual topics out there... being a teenager, sex is one of the most intresting things that there is, and I don't want to see this aspect of create blog get taken away... All i want is for people to treat the boy's lockeroom with the same respect as the girls locker room... I think it's rediculous, how we are literally treated differently....

Other than my instance, I don't see how we're being sexist or treating you unfairly. This seems more of an attack on me and my pointing out threads that should be closed. I apologize if it seems like I'm attacking the Boys' Locker and favoring the Girls' Locker. To be honest, I probably like the Boys' Locker more. It makes me giggle more.

Edit // Sorry that everything's spaced out. It wasn't working before when I had too many quotes.. I think.

[*Uronacid*]

Okay, first of all, let's establish that this thread was not closed because it was inappropriate; it was closed because it is a duplicate topic. The second thing we should establish is that both the boys' locker and the girls' locker are lightly moderated, and thus littered with many (many) topics that should either be closed or merged due to its impropriety or duplicity. (Which is why that spit or swallow thread is still open.)

Kathleen's post was not about why the topic should be closed, but rather on the content of your specific post because it does not pertain to or contribute to the original topic. I'm not trying to side with Kathleen because she is my friend, and yes, the large font was unneccessary, but it seems more like you harbor a personal grudge (well, we all already know that) and are trying to shed bad light on Kathleen, so let's not make this thread a personal attack.

Another thing: nowhere does it state that girls are not allowed in the boys' locker and vice versa; if you think that they shouldn't be allowed to visit each other's lockers, than perhaps you should head over to Blogring, where doing so is prohibited. It's been long known that the girls of the site skew the statistics of all the polls in the guys' locker.

The sexy chest thread is not restricted to only females posting; after all, many guys do post their pecs/abs in the thread. However, I concede that you may be right on how appropriate it is.

Again, I'm restating that the masturbation topic was not closed because it was not PG-13, because a lot of your argument rests on the male masturbation topics being considered inappropriate and female masturbation topics appropriate.

Also, yes, there are topics in the lockers that may be pg-13 if discussed in a serious matter. However, most of cB is not mature enough to so, which is why said topics are closed.

I guess I just don't like the fact that kathleen did it becuase she is a girl, I don't have a problem with the girls browsing the guys forums and posting, but I deffinitly don't see any other females doing that in the guys room. I feel like she consistantly rats people out. It's rediculous. Somtimes, the topics deserve to be close, but if a topic is going to be closed or ratted on in the guys locker room don't you think it should be a guy who should do it.
I see her breaking the PG-13 rule all the time, and I also see her post and have convo's in topics that have deffinilty been created before without saying a word. I guess she was jsut the final straw for me in the guys locker room. I see topics get closed all the time becuase girls seem to think they are inappropriate. If you are in the guys locker room, then you shouldn't be offened. I don't want girls to be unable to post, and i don't want girls to feel unwanted, but I don't think girls should be in there ratting us off for being inappropriate if they are reading things in the Boy's locker-room of their own free will. I have nothing against her personally. I'm sorry if this looks like a personal attack, but I do see her ratting people out in topics quite frequently...

Look, I don't want topics like this to be banned, and I think they make this site very unique. But, I hate seeing topics that aren't bad get closed especially when they don't need to be. The maturbation thread that was similiar was not the same, it didn't even have a poll.

[Simba]

Ok, now that all that appears to be cleared up, which topics do you guys think are not PG-13. Perhaps we can do something about it.

Sexy Chest thread? Spit or Swallow thread? And anything else.

And if there's anyone that supports those threads, why should those be kept open?

And then after that, at what point do you guys see something "not PG-13." Once we establish that, we can prevent any more non PG-13 topics from sliding and topics that we can handle from being closed.

[*Kathleen*]

I guess I just don't like the fact that kathleen did it becuase she is a girl, I don't have a problem with the girls browsing the guys forums and posting, but I deffinitly don't see any other females doing that in the guys room. I feel like she consistantly rats people out. It's rediculous. Somtimes, the topics deserve to be close, but if a topic is going to be closed or ratted on in the guys locker room don't you think it should be a guy who should do it.
I see her breaking the PG-13 rule all the time, and I also see her post and have convo's in topics that have deffinilty been created before without saying a word. I guess she was jsut the final straw for me in the guys locker room. I see topics get closed all the time becuase girls seem to think they are inappropriate. If you are in the guys locker room, then you shouldn't be offened. I don't want girls to be unable to post, and i don't want girls to feel unwanted, but I don't think girls should be in there ratting us off for being inappropriate if they are reading things in the Boy's locker-room of their own free will. I have nothing against her personally. I'm sorry if this looks like a personal attack, but I do see her ratting people out in topics quite frequently...

Look, I don't want topics like this to be banned, and I think they make this site very unique. But, I hate seeing topics that aren't bad get closed especially when they don't need to be. The maturbation thread that was similiar was not the same, it didn't even have a poll.

Uh. Please read the bit in my post earlier where I state that I wasn't only going in the Boys' Locker. Besides, as Anna said, the point I was trying to prove with all of that is the fact that those forums aren't moderated enough. I'm trying to wake up People Staff or something. No one seems to be doing anything. Sorry if I sound harsh. It's just I don't think we're quite seeing eye-to-eye here; you're not getting the point of that entire thread. Feel free to add on to it. If you find topics in the Girls' Locker that should be closed, post the link in there.

[*Uronacid*]

Uh. Please read the bit in my post earlier where I state that I wasn't only going in the Boys' Locker. Besides, as Anna said, the point I was trying to prove with all of that is the fact that those forums aren't moderated enough. I'm trying to wake up People Staff or something. No one seems to be doing anything. Sorry if I sound harsh. It's just I don't think we're quite seeing eye-to-eye here; you're not getting the point of that entire thread. Feel free to add on to it. If you find topics in the Girls' Locker that should be closed, post the link in there.

I'm sorry, I was typing that out while youwere making your comments, we just posted at the same time...


no wtf, I don't want topics to be cleared up.. I don't really care about closing topics, I just think you people are way to strict or just plain inconsistant. also, i think you guys should stop ratting topics and people out... if you have a problem with a topic... PM an admin

[*Kathleen*]

Ok, now that all that appears to be cleared up, which topics do you guys think are not PG-13. Perhaps we can do something about it.

Sexy Chest thread? Spit or Swallow thread? And anything else.

And if there's anyone that supports those threads, why should those be kept open?

And then after that, at what point do you guys see something "not PG-13." Once we establish that, we can prevent any more non PG-13 topics from sliding and topics that we can handle from being closed.

Meh just anything that you wouldn't see in a PG-13 movie. I mean, honestly, what PG-13 movies talk about spitting and swallowing or even speak on that subject at all? I just wish People Staff would stop simply moderating The Lounge and Entertainment. Other forums exist out there. Anna pointed that out in Moderator Performance, but I guess that sort of proved our point that the moderators don't seem to want to listen to us (Anna, me). Thank you, though, Jesus.

[*Azarel*]

I guess I just don't like the fact that kathleen did it becuase she is a girl, I don't have a problem with the girls browsing the guys forums and posting, but I deffinitly don't see any other females doing that in the guys room. I feel like she consistantly rats people out. It's rediculous. Somtimes, the topics deserve to be close, but if a topic is going to be closed or ratted on in the guys locker room don't you think it should be a guy who should do it.

It shouldn't make a difference who reports what. There are plenty of other females browsing the boys' locker, and I myself have done the same thing with some topics, by PMing a mod. I highly doubt that you would be pissed off if Kathleen had PMed a mod so that you didn't know who reported the thread. Really now.

I see her breaking the PG-13 rule all the time, and I also see her post and have convo's in topics that have deffinilty been created before without saying a word. I guess she was jsut the final straw for me in the guys locker room. I see topics get closed all the time becuase girls seem to think they are inappropriate. If you are in the guys locker room, then you shouldn't be offened. I don't want girls to be unable to post, and i don't want girls to feel unwanted, but I don't think girls should be in there ratting us off for being inappropriate if they are reading things in the Boy's locker-room of their own free will. I have nothing against her personally. I'm sorry if this looks like a personal attack, but I do see her ratting people out in topics quite frequently...

Where have you seen that?

And if you "see topics get closed all the time because girls seem to think they are inappropriate," why did you say earlier that you "don't see any other females doing that in the guys room"? ...

Look, I don't want topics like this to be banned, and I think they make this site very unique. But, I hate seeing topics that aren't bad get closed especially when they don't need to be. The maturbation thread that was similiar was not the same, it didn't even have a poll.

Poll or no poll, the content was the same. If I were a mod, though, I personally would've merged the topics or split the polls and added them to the existing topics.

[*Uronacid*]

It shouldn't make a difference who reports what. There are plenty of other females browsing the boys' locker, and I myself have done the same thing with some topics, by PMing a mod. I highly doubt that you would be pissed off if Kathleen had PMed a mod so that you didn't know who reported the thread. Really now.

Where have you seen that?

And if you "see topics get closed all the time because girls seem to think they are inappropriate," why did you say earlier that you "don't see any other females doing that in the guys room"? ...

Poll or no poll, the content was the same. If I were a mod, though, I personally would've merged the topics or split the polls and added them to the existing topics.

I think I meant that I didn't see guys going into the girls locker room telling them what topics that they needed to close

[*Kathleen*]

I'm sorry, I was typing that out while youwere making your comments, we just posted at the same time...
no wtf, I don't want topics to be cleared up.. I don't really care about closing topics, I just think you people are way to strict or just plain inconsistant. also, i think you guys should stop ratting topics and people out... if you have a problem with a topic... PM an admin

Yeah I noticed that before. Sorry. Didn't realize it at the time. Well, sorry. I guess I'm slightly biased because all I EVER see in the Boys' Locker room are topics pertaining to, well topics around the same jist as the one in question. Again, you're missing the point of that thread. Here, I'll lay it out for you:

1. To point out that moderators aren't in the last three forums enough.
2. I've PMed Staff members about topics and whatnot, but my help has obviously gone unnoticed. I decided to display it publicly.
3. I've POSTED in the threads themselves, telling moderators that they should be closed, but since they don't go in there.. they haven't seen them. Again, why it was better that I display it publicly.

So did you read my topic at all?

I think I meant that I didn't see guys going into the girls locker room telling them what topics that they needed to close

Uhm. As I've said.. you can gladly do so yourself. It's not like I'm married to the threads in there.

Hi Anna.

[marzipan]

Hm...well, this thread has helped me out. Kathleen's right on the fact that any topic on here that you wouldn't see in a PG-13 movie isn't PG-13. I'm going to look through that forum now.

[Simba]

I'm sorry, I was typing that out while youwere making your comments, we just posted at the same time...
no wtf, I don't want topics to be cleared up.. I don't really care about closing topics, I just think you people are way to strict or just plain inconsistant. also, i think you guys should stop ratting topics and people out... if you have a problem with a topic... PM an admin

This looks like what happend with the spam rule. I think you want us (the mods) to have a fine line of what is PG-13 and what is not so that we don't make those mistakes again, don't you?

And you're welcome Kathleen.

[*Uronacid*]

Yeah I noticed that before. Sorry. Didn't realize it at the time. Well, sorry. I guess I'm slightly biased because all I EVER see in the Boys' Locker room are topics pertaining to, well topics around the same jist as the one in question. Again, you're missing the point of that thread. Here, I'll lay it out for you:

So did you read my topic at all?
Uhm. As I've said.. you can gladly do so. It's not like I'm married to the threads in there.

I here you, maybe we just need more mods on this site.. >.> I mean, I would have closed the boob thing... I guess it was kind of discussting seeing all the comments, but everyone was having fun, and it WAS TECHINCALLY PG-13

there was nothing rated "R" about the thread, execpt for the cussing >.>

the spitting and swallowing thing, I really can't see what is rated R about that either... they are no graphic images, and apparently its something that alot of you have done... so... who am i to judge, I look at it like... its in the girls locker room, and they should be aloud to talk about the things that they have to go through....

the penis size thing, I mean, cmon... there is nothing wrong with that... guys talk about that all the time, and between guys its not a big deal... i feel the same way that i feel about the spitting and swallowing thread...

This looks like what happend with the spam rule. I think you want us (the mods) to have a fine line of what is PG-13 and what is not so that we don't make those mistakes again, don't you?

And you're welcome Kathleen.

YES, there has to be a fine line! what constitutes what is pg-13, and what is not...

that bring up the question.... are things that are in the boys/girls locker room different...

i mean, talking about girls guy to guy is a little different than talking to a girl about other girls....

and i'm sure talking about guys girl to girl is different than talking to a guy about another guy...

different things are pg-13 between the sexs depending on whether your talking to someone of the same or opposite sex...

for example: It may be normal for a girl to talk to another girl about how much she mastubates, but for a guy to ask a girl that... it's a little bit more risky...

another example: It may be normal for a guy to talk to another guy about how big he is, but its different when a guy tells a girl how big he is.... there is usually a sexual aspect to it that makes it less in-appropriate

[*Kathleen*]

Hm...well, this thread has helped me out. Kathleen's right on the fact that any topic on here that you wouldn't see in a PG-13 movie isn't PG-13. I'm going to look through that forum now.

Thank you. Please don't take this as ass-kissing, but I'm glad to see your moderator actions/presence is improving.

This looks like what happend with the spam rule. I think you want us (the mods) to have a fine line of what is PG-13 and what is not so that we don't make those mistakes again, don't you?

And you're welcome Kathleen.

Yeah. I think when createBlog was smaller, it was easier to let things slide or have definitions pretty loose. Now that different mindsets are running it, everyone has very vague ideas about everything. It's sad that we must define everything, but that's what it all boils down to.

that bring up the question.... are things that are in the boys/girls locker room different...

i mean, talking about girls guy to guy is a little different than talking to a girl about other girls....

and i'm sure talking about guys girl to girl is different than talking to a guy about another guy...

different things are pg-13 between the sexs depending on whether your talking to someone of the same or opposite sex...

for example: It may be normal for a girl to talk to another girl about how much she mastubates, but for a guy to ask a girl that... it's a little bit more risky...

another example: It may be normal for a guy to talk to another guy about how big he is, but its different when a guy tells a girl how big he is.... there is usually a sexual aspect to it that makes it less in-appropriate

I'm afraid I'm not seeing your point on that one. Are you implying that we should make it so that girls can't go in Boys' Locker and vice-versa?

[Simba]

I believe what he is saying is that a guy may see a topic in boy's locker appropriate, but a girl may not see the same topic as appropriate. And vice versa.

[*Kathleen*]

Yeah, but I've complained about Girls' Locker topics.

[*Uronacid*]

Thank you. Please don't take this as ass-kissing, but I'm glad to see your moderator actions/presence is improving.

Yeah. I think when createBlog was smaller, it was easier to let things slide or have definitions pretty loose. Now that different mindsets are running it, everyone has very vague ideas about everything. It's sad that we must define everything, but that's what it all boils down to.

I'm afraid I'm not seeing your point on that one. Are you implying that we should make it so that girls can't go in Boys' Locker and vice-versa?

no, I think that you should instead have a warning telling you what you could see before you enter the room... that is if you are of the opposite sex.. just to let you know that, "this is meant for guys, so it might be a little different in this part. look at your own risk." I think that mods should be more relaxed on what is and isn't pg-13 in those threads... of corse no bashing and no nude pic's, but I think that that things such and breast size, penis size, and how much you mastubate are all things that are talked about in locker rooms across the coutry... I believe those forums should be a little bit more relaxed, just as they are now... alost like the sand box, except for guy things and one and girl things in another...

I believe that separating the sex's would make it much less intresting....

Yeah, but I've complained about Girls' Locker topics.

thats besides the piont, you see things differently than me... and many other guys (you have to exclued some xD) just because you are a girl.... and I'm not being sexist

I believe what he is saying is that a guy may see a topic in boy's locker appropriate, but a girl may not see the same topic as appropriate. And vice versa.

EXACTLY, MAYBE there should be a guy mod specfically designated to guys locker room, and a girl mod specifically designated to the girls locker room...

[*Kathleen*]

thats fine, but i think that there should be a guy mod specfically designated to guys locker room, and a girl mod specifically designated to the girls locker room...

Uhm. We have Jesus. He's been doing a good job so far. I just don't think he was aware of this problem until now. I'm sure he'll be fine. I hope this thread wasn't created with the intention of helping you get that promotion.