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 Jul 12 2006, 02:47 PM
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Well, I wouldn't just go up to an unappealing person in dirty, ragged, worn clothes and say "hey how are you?" There's a certain limit, for me.
I mean, seriously. Would you like to wake up to a face like this? 
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Jul 12 2006, 02:49 PM
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^ Jesus Christ!
Isn't that the really creepy little "sideshow freak" from Bubble Boy? |
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Jul 12 2006, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(forza @ Jul 12 2006, 3:49 PM)  ^ Jesus Christ! Isn't that the really creepy little "sideshow freak" from Bubble Boy? idk, i googled "ugly man" |
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Jul 12 2006, 02:56 PM
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Not talking to a dirty, ragged person who stinks isn't an act of being shallow. It's what 99.9 % of the world population would do. Not talking to a fat person because of his/her size is shallow and that is what I consider 'Ignorance'. I don't think you should judge someone by their physical appearance.
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Jul 12 2006, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(Weird addiction @ Jul 12 2006, 2:56 PM) Not talking to a dirty, ragged person who stinks isn't an act of being shallow. It's what 99.9 % of the world population would do. Not talking to a fat person because of his/her size is shallow and that is what I consider 'Ignorance'. I don't think you should judge someone by their physical appearance. Not true, you asswipe. Truth is, A lot of the world is in a dirty, ragged, stinky state. Back where I used to live, I would come across a lot of dirty, ragged, stinky people, yet I wouldn't hesitate to give them a helping hand and say hello. You're such a f**king bitch. I hope your children face a poverty-stricken future living in the slums, all dirty and smelly. Sorry. I kinda just blew. |
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Jul 12 2006, 11:02 PM
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Hezron calm dowm. You know that someone who's never lived in places like the Philippines would never know.... D:
But you know Sandra, just because 99.9% of the population does it, doesn't mean it isn't ignorant neither is it not wrong. |
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Jul 13 2006, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(Herizon Action @ Jul 12 2006, 9:17 PM) Not true, you asswipe. Truth is, A lot of the world is in a dirty, ragged, stinky state. Back where I used to live, I would come across a lot of dirty, ragged, stinky people, yet I wouldn't hesitate to give them a helping hand and say hello. You're such a f**king bitch. I hope your children face a poverty-stricken future living in the slums, all dirty and smelly. Sorry. I kinda just blew. Yeah, because you seem so noble... 
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Jul 13 2006, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(forza @ Jul 13 2006, 12:11 AM) Yeah, because you seem so noble... I'd take offense at that if I actually thought of myself and my actions noble. |
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Jul 13 2006, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE(forza @ Jul 12 2006, 12:34 AM) Close-mindedness doesn't equate to ignorance, though. It simply signifies that a person has a shorter threshhold of interest. Would you consider a person ignorant if they were close-minded, yet correct and successful about/in most facets of life? In this case, close-minded is a choice. You choose not to be willing to know more beyond the person's looks. if something looks really ugly and ... crappy, they will just pass by it. |
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Jul 13 2006, 03:09 AM
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Does that, therefore, mean shallow = selective and not ignorant?
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Jul 13 2006, 04:35 AM
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Shouldn't this be in debate?
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Jul 13 2006, 05:00 AM
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^ I was wondering the very same thing. Seems pretty debate-worthy.
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Jul 13 2006, 05:08 AM
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QUOTE(Herizon Action @ Jul 13 2006, 4:17 AM) Not true, you asswipe. Truth is, A lot of the world is in a dirty, ragged, stinky state. Back where I used to live, I would come across a lot of dirty, ragged, stinky people, yet I wouldn't hesitate to give them a helping hand and say hello. You're such a f**king bitch. I hope your children face a poverty-stricken future living in the slums, all dirty and smelly. Sorry. I kinda just blew. You son of a bitch! My children will never be dirty and smelly like you. You shallow motherfcuking a-hole. |
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Jul 13 2006, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE(Herizon Action @ Jul 12 2006, 10:17 PM) Not true, you asswipe. Truth is, A lot of the world is in a dirty, ragged, stinky state. Back where I used to live, I would come across a lot of dirty, ragged, stinky people, yet I wouldn't hesitate to give them a helping hand and say hello. You're such a f**king bitch. I hope your children face a poverty-stricken future living in the slums, all dirty and smelly. Sorry. I kinda just blew. I guess you're part of that .01% |
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Jul 13 2006, 08:30 AM
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^ You forgot to add his family.
QUOTE(Freaky Krazer @ Jul 13 2006, 6:02 AM) Hezron calm dowm. You know that someone who's never lived in places like the Philippines would never know.... D: But you know Sandra, just because 99.9% of the population does it, doesn't mean it isn't ignorant neither is it not wrong. It isn't ignorance, it isn't wrong either. You see the picture at the top of the page, if I should see that man, I won't talk to him. He might be a beautiful person but the fact that he's dirty, he's got ugly teeth and he's scary is a turnoff. That isn't ignorance. |
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Jul 13 2006, 09:31 AM
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Hahahaha! I may be shallow, but I don't have the audacity to f**k a mother unless she was the mother of my own children. And I have to apologize for earlier. My reply was uncalled for. Let me rephrase it in a more civil manner.
I'd like to point out that a large majority of the world population isn't exactly within the propriety of the higher industrialist nations. I mean, if you go anywhere with a less fortunate economy, you're bound to meet communities full of ragged, dirty people. To say that 99.9% of the world population ignores those people is a big understatement. |
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Jul 13 2006, 09:35 AM
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A shallow individual may or may not be ignorant. An ignorant individual may or may not be shallow. However, neither have a direct cause and effect relation. They may have a correlation, but that would just be coincidence. By definition, no. Shallowness isn't ignorance, and vice versa. In fact, I would imagine that a shallow person would be made even that more shallow by the reality of knowledge. If a person was physically ugly, yet their mind and personality were beautiful, and a person had perfect knowledge of this yet still rejected this person (even as a friend) merely on the basis of physical appearance, they would be the most purist form of shallow.
I'll have to stick with Hez on this: It's irrelevant. |
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Jul 13 2006, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(Herizon Action @ Jul 13 2006, 4:31 PM) Hahahaha! I may be shallow, but I don't have the audacity to f**k a mother unless she was the mother of my own children. And I have to apologize for earlier. My reply was uncalled for. Let me rephrase it in a more civil manner. I'd like to point out that a large majority of the world population isn't exactly within the propriety of the higher industrialist nations. I mean, if you go anywhere with a less fortunate economy, you're bound to meet communities full of ragged, dirty people. To say that 99.9% of the world population ignores those people is a big understatement. Dude, I stressed my eyes just to read your post. Anyhoo, of course I exaggerated when I said 99.9 % but people who feel like that are in the majority. Maybe I'm thinking like this because I was brought up this way. The picture that's on the top of this page prouves my point. If I should see that man IRL, I won't talk to him even if he was harmless, I'll freak out. I don't think that it should be defined as being shallow. People who were brought up in poor environnements are used to seeing people being dirty. That's a different issue, they are used to it. I'm not used to seeing people badly dressed and dirty, it's going to be scary if I should see someone like that. |
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Jul 13 2006, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(Weird addiction @ Jul 13 2006, 10:02 AM) The picture that's on the top of this page prouves my point. If I should see that man IRL, I won't talk to him even if he was harmless, I'll freak out. I think I would talk to him. Probably laugh and shake his hand. The guy is a superstar. He was really big on Howard Stern for quite some time. He's really awful, but he is infamous. I would talk to him, but for completly and utterly shallow reasons still. Interesting, huh? |
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Jul 13 2006, 10:14 AM
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^ Lol! Even if he's famous, hell no. I can't. I think I'll actually cry, I mean, he's scary.
Are you going to call me shallow for that? |
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Jul 13 2006, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(Weird addiction @ Jul 13 2006, 10:14 AM) ^ Lol! Even if he's famous, hell no. I can't. I think I'll actually cry, I mean, he's scary. Are you going to call me shallow for that? Shallow Main Entry: 1shal·low Pronunciation: 'sha-(")lO Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English schalowe; probably akin to Old English sceald shallow -- more at SKELETON 3 a : penetrating only the easily or quickly perceived <shallow generalizations> Sure. That's a shallow reaction. But, here is the good news. You aren't generalizing his personality on his looks. You aren't saying he isn't a good person, or that he is a bad person. You're simply reacting to his unsightly appearance. Since you are simply penetrating that thin layer, you are commiting a shallow reaction, however, it isn't as morally objectionable as it could be. |
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Jul 13 2006, 10:27 AM
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 I know what 'shallow' means. I think everyone's got their definition of the word because it's el crazyo.For the love of God, a kid could faint seeing that guy! |
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Jul 13 2006, 11:11 AM
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I'm with Nate on this one. I'd talk to the man for a bit and shake his hand. It would be quite the fun thing to do. Sorry about the font. I didn't know it was that small.
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Jul 13 2006, 11:19 AM
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^You're a guy, you're courageous. I'll cry, I swear that I'll cry. I'm 100 % sure.
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