please don't ask how to make a layout Options

[On_One_87]

woah... yall sound like cats and dogs up in here... Like f***... But honestly, this entire like "please dont ask how to make a layout" topic sounds like a battle between the "newbies" and the "pros or helpies or watever the ones who know wats going on wanna call themselves"

I am no expert at ANY of this sh** trust...

But like straight up... I know attacking eachother aint gonna help none of you guys ("newbies" or "pros")...

I may be way out of line but, Im gona make a suggestion to both sides and hope it helps u guys ultimately help eachother...

...

k, like in regards to the problems between the "newbies" and the "pros":

I have to admit that i agree that there is no reason to be rude... I mean honestly if ur not gonna say anything constructive why even say it at all??? Besides doesnt that like just take p more space on the "forumn" or watever this things called???
...
BUT "newbies" need t realize that just because this is a forumn" (or watever) doesnt mean to automatically post a question the second u get here...

Cuz I can GUARANTEE that it already probably been answered a good 5 to 10 times in different ways...

Now the "newbies" need take a step back and lookat it from the "pros" pint of view...

These guys are sitting behind there computers trying to help u learn wat it is u wanna lear, but how the HE** do uexpect them to do what they are here for when u come at them with questions such

"how do I make a layout?"

Do u realize how many different ways there are to do one layout... let alone how many options are open to you to in the sense of creaivity and just how u want it all to look and come together???

Id be pissed he fu** off to if I had a sh** load a mutha f**kers who came at e constantly with...

"Can u tell me how to mak a layout" when

1. they dont even kno what they want to be on it...
2. they donteven have a basic "outline" r nething for it...

(and when I say "outline" right there... I dont mean the code outline... I mean

"OUTLINE" as in

a. do u want a pic in ur extended nextwork
1) if so wat pic
2) if not, do u wanna just
A-leave it alone altogether
or
B-take the entire extended network section off ur profile...

b. Is your blog ever going to have blogs in it???
1) if so how do u want all that to look
2) if not are u gonna
A-leave it there to just "muck-up" ur page
or
B-get the entire secion the fu** off ur page???
c. In your about me section
1) will u have
A-just code
or
B-code and text
2) will there be any pics?
A-how will they be alighned if so???

thats what i mean by "outline"...

Basically, you gotta have some kind of a blueprint NO MATTER HOW FU**ING SIMPLE it may be... And I dont even wanna hear that u dont know what it is or how to have one cuz its called ur IMAGINATION "newbies"...

If u didnt hae some kind of a blueprint in ur head already then u would't be here... Cuz if there was no blueprint in ur head wat would be the purpose of tracking down this site...?

Exactly...

Now, unfortunately... because a lot of "newbies" dont know how to "word" what they are trying to do... (and they ESPECIALLY since they dont want to have to look through the forumns that they dont understand anyways) this is why they just start their own topic...

Personally, I like the way its broken down on this site with your categories to each topic... But u have ALL images shit together... and since people look at the bold sh** more than everything else... They probably dont see that little bit of text after the bold that says "level: beginner" or "level:advannced"....

Ur best bet is to make it to where when u click on the tutorials or forumn and all that crap have ur MAIN 3 categories be BEGINNER - INTERMEDIATE - ADVANCED
...
Then Have all the BEGINNER photosh** in a category labeled images inside the BEGINNER caegory... and so on and so on...

I know that this thing is probably REALLY hard to follow... But for the past 4 hrs that Ive been getting interrupted by my mutha FU**ING roommate about BULLSH** I havent been focusing very well... Plus Ive been awake the past 2 and a 1/2 days STRAIGHT... So once I either get silence or wake up from some NEEDED sleep... Ill be on here to correct this... But this is wat I can do for now...

But ill definitely revise this either sometime throughout today or tomorrow night... Ight...

But u guys stop trippin... lol... Come on... Im sure u guys r smart enough to pull it together... I know ya'll can...

Im getting so delirious right now... My heads all light and crap... lol... I gotta go... Ill fix this post later... Bye and Be Safe...

[rucinski92]

y cant i ask for someone 2 make me a myspace layout??? i really need help!!

[freeflow]

^ Read the first post. There are plenty of resources around.

[animechik55]

I know a lot of people been arguing about making layouts and such, but I put my own photoshop designs in the background and extended network without making a layout from scratch. What I mean is that I grab someone's code and replace the urls with my own. I have no clue about about making layouts so I just tinker with someones layout to customize it to make my own. Would that be wrong in ne way?

[freeflow]

^ Not really other than if your taking the layout from there myspace then your stealing. Basically everyone just has to take the codes from here and like you do replace them with there own its not hard. That is your layout. Your layout is what you make it to be. The default myspace layout is a layout.

[leinani1491@aol....]

way above you said you made a tutorial rite under this but i dont see it can you help me please

[freeflow]

^ What do you mean?

[leinani1491@aol....]

well on the first page it said this- Sweetie, look right under this topic. I made one myself. and i couldnt find it so i was wondering if you could tell me where it is thanks

[freeflow]

^ Oh! Theres a div layout tutorial but otherwise all we have is css. If you really want me to explain a basic layout to you I can do it through pm. So feel free to pm me.

[leinani1491@aol....]

oh i found it i was just looking for the words "tutorial" that i didnt bother opening the topic below it just a mistake well thanks for the help

[samsnightout]

ok, all you people that say, "i dont appreciate rudeness all i want is help"
think of it this way, if you taught yourself how to do something and then all of a sudden hundreds of people are asking the same question over and over again without even trying to find the answer themselves because they are just that lazy. you'd be pissed too. you arent the only one who wants help.
im no myspace expert but i have taught myself a little.
if you want go to my myspace
<a href="www.myspace.com/enjoisk8r647">here</a>
so all the people that dont understand myspace stuff i didnt at first either but take some time and learn dont be so impatient.
so take time, look around the site, its helped me a ton. it'll help you to.

[GREASEbaby]

Well seeing as how there are a bunch of OLD topics, I don't think that I would even want to take the time to look through all those. I don't have the time and even if I did, I wouldn't.

Yeah, thats your Goddamned problem. All you newbies are too lazy to even START learning. We all had to start somewhere, and way back when, we didn't have this blessed site to start learning. We learned by ourselves - put OUR OWN MONEY into books, spoke up to our friends, people we didn't know, looked at the sources of different webpages. I bet all of you have barely even looked into a layout code. You just saw that big long code and thought, "crap that thing is long I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE THE TIME AND READ IT, EVEN IF THAT MEANS I CAN UNDERSTAND IT, AND MAYBE EVEN LEARN!! Then I post a bashing topic on the lovely createblog.com saying that they won't teach us, when that is what the site is for". You know how I started learning HTML? By wanting to make bold and colored text. Really. I saw somebody's bolded and colored text on a myspace bulletin and thought, "Man that looks pretty. Hm, if I press "reply", then I'll probably be able to see what made it that way." And you know what I saw? I saw bold tags, italics, font colors and sizes. But oh, how did I understand them, and know what each meant? I used my common sense. I opened up the bulletin in another window and matched the pretty text to the coded text. Then one day, I was tired of just making the text pretty, and found that my layout had a font I didn't like, and I didn't want the link hover code to be FFCC00. I searched google for a html help site. I got lissaexplains.com, htmlgoodies.com, whateverlife.com, and a lot of others. I took my time (The time that I could've been spending doing something else, I might add.) to look all over the site, every single link I could find. I went back to my myspace layout. I changed the text font, and I changed the color code of my hover link. But I did a LOT more - I changed the background color, the table color, I even made my own image using Gimp - and I was referred to it from one of those sites. Before I knew it, my page looked O.K. But it was something completely me. It was nothing special, but I loved it. My first layout, what joy. But that wasn't all in my layout - I had scrollboxes, comment boxes, pretty scrollbars - THE WORKS. I was so proud. You just need to learn BY YOUR SELF. And hey, I'll give you a hint. There's a VERY VERY easy tutorial about how to make a CSS Style Sheet from lissaexplains.com. I'm not going to give you the link, though. You need to find it yourself. And on the way there, you'll find a lot of other things. Really neat tools that can make your myspace or webpage awesomely cooly totally radical. It's how A LOT of people here learned HTML, and how to make layouts. Be one of them.

And btw, the first post was not rude AT ALL. It was direct, upfront, and forward. She was laying down the law. If there is one post in this whole topic it would be mine, and I admit it. I'm pretty Goddamned pissed right now at all of you lazy newbies. None of you even WANT to learn - you just want to PRETEND to learn while some blessed, awesome person tries to explain how to make a layout, and when they have it all done, you'll just copy and paste that layout into your myspace. Assholes.

[axneverendingxdr...]

Yeah, thats your Goddamned problem. All you newbies are too lazy to even START learning. We all had to start somewhere, and way back when, we didn't have this blessed site to start learning. We learned by ourselves - put OUR OWN MONEY into books, spoke up to our friends, people we didn't know, looked at the sources of different webpages. I bet all of you have barely even looked into a layout code. You just saw that big long code and thought, "crap that thing is long I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE THE TIME AND READ IT, EVEN IF THAT MEANS I CAN UNDERSTAND IT, AND MAYBE EVEN LEARN!! Then I post a bashing topic on the lovely createblog.com saying that they won't teach us, when that is what the site is for". You know how I started learning HTML? By wanting to make bold and colored text. Really. I saw somebody's bolded and colored text on a myspace bulletin and thought, "Man that looks pretty. Hm, if I press "reply", then I'll probably be able to see what made it that way." And you know what I saw? I saw bold tags, italics, font colors and sizes. But oh, how did I understand them, and know what each meant? I used my common sense. I opened up the bulletin in another window and matched the pretty text to the coded text. Then one day, I was tired of just making the text pretty, and found that my layout had a font I didn't like, and I didn't want the link hover code to be FFCC00. I searched google for a html help site. I got lissaexplains.com, htmlgoodies.com, whateverlife.com, and a lot of others. I took my time (The time that I could've been spending doing something else, I might add.) to look all over the site, every single link I could find. I went back to my myspace layout. I changed the text font, and I changed the color code of my hover link. But I did a LOT more - I changed the background color, the table color, I even made my own image using Gimp - and I was referred to it from one of those sites. Before I knew it, my page looked O.K. But it was something completely me. It was nothing special, but I loved it. My first layout, what joy. But that wasn't all in my layout - I had scrollboxes, comment boxes, pretty scrollbars - THE WORKS. I was so proud. You just need to learn BY YOUR SELF. And hey, I'll give you a hint. There's a VERY VERY easy tutorial about how to make a CSS Style Sheet from lissaexplains.com. I'm not going to give you the link, though. You need to find it yourself. And on the way there, you'll find a lot of other things. Really neat tools that can make your myspace or webpage awesomely cooly totally radical. It's how A LOT of people here learned HTML, and how to make layouts. Be one of them.

And btw, the first post was not rude AT ALL. It was direct, upfront, and forward. She was laying down the law. If there is one post in this whole topic it would be mine, and I admit it. I'm pretty Goddamned pissed right now at all of you lazy newbies. None of you even WANT to learn - you just want to PRETEND to learn while some blessed, awesome person tries to explain how to make a layout, and when they have it all done, you'll just copy and paste that layout into your myspace. Assholes.

ok,first off,not all newbies are lazy ok! I am a newbie here and I just came to this forum and saw this topic,who are you to say we're all lazy? yes,i have to agree with you,that one guy was a lazy a-hole.no doubt about that.they way you were stating everything was rude.yes,i understand,everyone who is pro at making layouts or comment boxes or whatever probably did have to learn by themselves,but all some of us n00bs are asking is for a little help.some people may be like...stalker help,but not all.and you know what,i didn't even know you acually should start at the basics like comment boxes or fonts or stuff like that.I just found that out! people won't know right off the bat 'oh i should start with the basics'.ypu have to be patient with some people.just telling them to go find out themselves,even thought it was just direct,upfront,and forward,it could hurt peoples feelings.And as stupid as that sounds,its true.people like me have very sentimental feelings and to have someone like that say something like that is harsh in a weird way.and ok,i DO want to learn ok.i dont want to pretend like some 5 eyar old,i acually would like to learn how to do stuff like this! and calling people assholes and stuff like that is not a way to confront this situatiion..even thought i admit i did it a couple times in this reply too.

[freeflow]

Alrighty, um lets just end this here yea? Lately people have been asking how to make layouts and its been fine. If you need help feel free to pm me and what not. Anyways people have been asking all the time now so really we are sorta letting people go ahead. Everyone has to find out somewhere. So yea.

[*ECD & C0*]

wow I agree i Have Gotten around 275 messages on how to make layouts and its really annoying i learned on my own and so can you just take the time to figure it out it might take a week or two but after that you can do it no problem

[moogaly]

Yeah, thats your Goddamned problem. All you newbies are too lazy to even START learning. We all had to start somewhere, and way back when, we didn't have this blessed site to start learning. We learned by ourselves - put OUR OWN MONEY into books, spoke up to our friends, people we didn't know, looked at the sources of different webpages. I bet all of you have barely even looked into a layout code. You just saw that big long code and thought, "crap that thing is long I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE THE TIME AND READ IT, EVEN IF THAT MEANS I CAN UNDERSTAND IT, AND MAYBE EVEN LEARN!! Then I post a bashing topic on the lovely createblog.com saying that they won't teach us, when that is what the site is for". You know how I started learning HTML? By wanting to make bold and colored text. Really. I saw somebody's bolded and colored text on a myspace bulletin and thought, "Man that looks pretty. Hm, if I press "reply", then I'll probably be able to see what made it that way." And you know what I saw? I saw bold tags, italics, font colors and sizes. But oh, how did I understand them, and know what each meant? I used my common sense. I opened up the bulletin in another window and matched the pretty text to the coded text. Then one day, I was tired of just making the text pretty, and found that my layout had a font I didn't like, and I didn't want the link hover code to be FFCC00. I searched google for a html help site. I got lissaexplains.com, htmlgoodies.com, whateverlife.com, and a lot of others. I took my time (The time that I could've been spending doing something else, I might add.) to look all over the site, every single link I could find. I went back to my myspace layout. I changed the text font, and I changed the color code of my hover link. But I did a LOT more - I changed the background color, the table color, I even made my own image using Gimp - and I was referred to it from one of those sites. Before I knew it, my page looked O.K. But it was something completely me. It was nothing special, but I loved it. My first layout, what joy. But that wasn't all in my layout - I had scrollboxes, comment boxes, pretty scrollbars - THE WORKS. I was so proud. You just need to learn BY YOUR SELF. And hey, I'll give you a hint. There's a VERY VERY easy tutorial about how to make a CSS Style Sheet from lissaexplains.com. I'm not going to give you the link, though. You need to find it yourself. And on the way there, you'll find a lot of other things. Really neat tools that can make your myspace or webpage awesomely cooly totally radical. It's how A LOT of people here learned HTML, and how to make layouts. Be one of them.

And btw, the first post was not rude AT ALL. It was direct, upfront, and forward. She was laying down the law. If there is one post in this whole topic it would be mine, and I admit it. I'm pretty Goddamned pissed right now at all of you lazy newbies. None of you even WANT to learn - you just want to PRETEND to learn while some blessed, awesome person tries to explain how to make a layout, and when they have it all done, you'll just copy and paste that layout into your myspace. Assholes.

Wow. I have been reading this whole entire post and I have not found anyone who said anything that made me sit there and think "Ah shit."

I came here looking for someone to educate me, as I am a "newbie", on "how to make a myspace layout."
After reading what "I own yourr face" had so say, I'm stunned. I'm impressed.
I agree with you 100% percent.
I am a "newbie" and you've just amazed me with what you have to say that I honestly feel ashamed of being a little bratty ass "newbie" looking for someone to inlighten me and make my days simpler by teaching me something that "pros" have been working on for awhile now.

I have to agree with your want of learning to make the bold a colored text. I know exactly that feeling because that's what I was doing in December. Last summer, I got a message from someone with PURPLE font. Oh man, it was super cool! I wanted that font so bad! December, I asked an HTML buddy of mine, and he just TRIED (bless him) to teach me about <b>bolding</b> my text. Yeah, I can change font sizes, font faces, colors, and italics, bold, underlined, and strike outs... but I had forgotten how frustrated I was when I couldn't remember how to do it the first time. Now I think "God, it's so easy!" but then I thought "How the f**king hell do people memorize this shit?"

I feel like the "a-hole" you've described. I've been using the same layout on my myspace since December, but I used it from someone else's hard work.
I'd like to show my appreication to who honestly made my layout, but that's not what I want to say.
I want to say that, we are LAZY dumb ...shits. WE ARE. I see a bunch of people complaining about the first person's post but not realizing that they weren't even rude. Rude would really be if they said "go figure" to how to do it. They didn't, so stop playing your dumb ass cry baby shit.

You're looking for VISUAL learning? What more can you get from MYGEN.CO.UK?
There you go. Sorry for my advertising of another site, but really, that's as close as you can get to VISUAL learning.

I feel so ashamed to be a "newbie" ... but I'm so happy that someone who has some balls such as "I own yourr face" knocked me back into some sanity.

Jesus christ, I feel like an "a-hole".

[abcdERICA]

lol@the last post.
sorry if that wasn't supposed to be funny.
but i thought it was.

[moogaly]

Lol

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[LittleMissSunshi...]

but i have one question. what do you use to make layouts? like photoshop?? paint shop?? which one do you prefer. cuz i want to know what is better to make the layouts && all the graphics. cann anyone help??

[freeflow]

but i have one question. what do you use to make layouts? like photoshop?? paint shop?? which one do you prefer. cuz i want to know what is better to make the layouts && all the graphics. cann anyone help??

Div layouts? photoshop , paint shop pro, ms paint, or gimp.
Read the graphic helps forum for people's opinions. Just search there.