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[NoSex]

My belief is God made marriage and sex...ect... for a man and a woman. I am not for gay marriages or for gays that aren’t married either. That is my belief but I'm not going all crazy on it because I could really care less about gays.

Shortest debate post yet .

f**k you.

Shortest debate post yet.

[AngryBaby]

damn straight *high fives*

[marzipan]

Also, since when did God suddenly rule every facet of this country? Just because America was started that way, doesn't mean it's supposed to be that way. Remember that the Puritans came here to practice their religion freely, so they wouldn't have to put up with the persecutions anymore. So why do we persecute people who aren't the same as us? Shit, you'd think with such things as the Holocaust, that we would learn from that. Therefore, I pretty much think your arguments are lame, since as I'm predicting, you probably won't be able to back yourself up without talking about God, & what God wants, & what God doesn't want or think is right.

I'm just really sick & tired of Christians trying to make the rules for everybody. They should be happy that people want to marry someone they love, even if they are of the same sex. I know that if I was gay, I sure as hell would rather marry a girl I was in love with instead of a guy that I didn't care for, just so everyone would shut the hell up.

& Why isn't it what he intended? If people are born that way & can't help who they love, it obviously can't be any other way. If God can see the future & see that this person that he supposedly created was going to be born gay, then he shouldn't say that this is not what he intended.

Since when did love become unnatural? Whether you like it or not, it is love. & It's kinda sad to think that God, the most loving being you could ever imagine, supposedly, would want to impede on a beautiful union of two people & stop it.

*clap**clap**clap*



well, i'm not exactly strongly supporting the gay marriage issue, but i'm not completely against it. but like you said, since God is a loving being, why would he want to look down upon two people that love each other just because they're the same sex? they're not bothering anybody, and isn't the fact that they just love each other all that matters?but then again, it doesn't really affect me, because i'm not gay.

i'm neutral on the issue.

[kantoaznboi]

i would just like to ask all those who are against or nuetral a question

if you were denied the right to marriage because a part of ur identity is not accepted, Would you not feel like you are being cheated and being violated of ur right to marry someone who you love?

for those who talk about civial unions being an alternative to gay marriage, well, the very fact that you have to create another form of instution for a group of individuals, is proof enough that there is no equality on this subject matter.

[*Uronacid*]

I am not for gay marraige (explained):

God, only condemns homosexuality in the old testament. Durring the old testament gay sex was conssidered an insult and was usually in the form of rape. The new testament says that homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord, but it does not condemn people to hell. Personally, If you love God then why would you want to do something that is or may be an ABOMINATION to him... I dunno, but rape and things like that are also closly mentioned in the verses before and after. Some people think it condemns homosexuals who engage in sexual offences, and that two people in a loving homosexual relationship is ok.

I think its all a matter of interpretation, but me personnaly i would rather just not take the risk in being condemned for it. For me, preforming homosexual acts or encouraging them would be sinning. I personnaly believe that taking the risk of doing something that may be an abomination to the lord is not loving the lord.

I am going to vote NO to gay marraige, because i don't want the people in my childrens lives to be influencing them to think homosexuality is ok. For example, my children may grow up and see teachers who are possibly gay. They will see friends with gay parents, and friends who are gay themselves. Although you already see gay kids in public schools, gay children will only be more and more common if gay marraige is accepted. These people will shape my kids lives and will influence my children into thinking that the idea is ok. I don't want them to take that risk in just the same way that i didn't take the risk.

You can't interpret and twist the bibles teachings. You are risking the chance of doing the wrong thing, and that in and of itself is wrong.


*this is only my opinion*

[*mipadi*]

Aside from the Biblical and religious connections, why is homosexuality wrong?

[*I Shot JFK*]

I am not for gay marraige (explained):

God, only condemns homosexuality in the old testament. Durring the old testament gay sex was conssidered an insult and was usually in the form of rape. The new testament says that homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord, but it does not condemn people to hell. Personally, If you love God then why would you want to do something that is or may be an ABOMINATION to him... I dunno, but rape and things like that are also closly mentioned in the verses before and after. Some people think it condemns homosexuals who engage in sexual offences, and that two people in a loving homosexual relationship is ok.

have you considered the possiblity that some people dont CARE what a christian god thinks of who they love? and that as such, they ought to be entitled to marry who they love

I am going to vote NO to gay marraige, because i don't want the people in my childrens lives to be influencing them to think homosexuality is ok. For example, my children may grow up and see teachers who are possibly gay. They will see friends with gay parents, and friends who are gay themselves. Although you already see gay kids in public schools, gay children will only be more and more common if gay marraige is accepted. These people will shape my kids lives and will influence my children into thinking that the idea is ok. I don't want them to take that risk in just the same way that i didn't take the risk.

homosexuality IS ok. there. now, have you been influenced by that very frank, very diect message? no? well then why do you think that your children will be influenced just by being near someone who is gay, and discussing something unrelated? and if yes, then i assume that you have been converted to my side of the argument. muahahaha.

and if, as you say, the idea that homosexual marriage may be an affront to the lord, is just you ropinion, then why on earth should two people who love each other be stopped from marrying one another because of your opinion? they dont care about you, your god, or your condemnation. they care about each other, so let them get on with it.

[*disco infiltrator*]

I am not for gay marraige (explained):

God, only condemns homosexuality in the old testament. Durring the old testament gay sex was conssidered an insult and was usually in the form of rape. The new testament says that homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord, but it does not condemn people to hell. Personally, If you love God then why would you want to do something that is or may be an ABOMINATION to him... I dunno, but rape and things like that are also closly mentioned in the verses before and after. Some people think it condemns homosexuals who engage in sexual offences, and that two people in a loving homosexual relationship is ok.

"If you love God" is the key thing there.
I, myself, am an atheist. Ok? That means I don't even believe any sort of deity exists, much less the Christian God. Thus, I do not love any god and do not follow any god. So, why in the world would I care if someone is doing something that is an abomination to someone I don't even believe is real? I really think you're forgetting that Christianity is not the ONLY religion in the world, or the U.S.

76.5% (159 million) of Americans identify themselves as Christian. This is a major slide from 86.2% in 1990. Identification with Christianity has suffered a loss of 9.7 percentage points in 11 years -- about 0.9 percentage points per year. This decline is identical to that observed in Canada between 1981 and 2001. If this trend continues, then by about the year 2042, non-Christians will outnumber the Christians in the U.S.

1.3% are Jewish.
0.5% are Muslim, followers of Islam.
The fastest growing religion (in terms of percentage) is Wicca -- a Neopagan religion that is sometimes referred to as Witchcraft. Numbers of adherents went from 8,000 in 1990 to 134,000 in 2001. Their numbers of adherents are doubling about every 30 months. 4,5 Wiccans in Australia have a very similar growth pattern, from fewer than 2,000 in 1996 to 9,000 in 2001. 10 In Canada, Wiccans and other Neopagans showed the greatest percentage growth of any faith group. They totaled 21,080 members in 1991, an increase of 281% when compared with 1990.
14.1% do not follow any organized religion. There are more Americans who say they are not affiliated with any organized religion than there are Episcopalians, Methodists, and Lutherans taken together. [1]

See? There's a LOT of people that aren't Christian, in any denomination. Now, taking into account that the U.S. population is somewhere around 299,000,000 [2], that means that approximately 140,000,000 people are not Christian in the United States alone. Does it really seem sensible to base a law that could affect hundreds of millions of people in their romantic lives on the wishes of a religion that 140,000,000 citizens don't even practice? Marriage is not a Christian institution. It's a governmental one. It has absolutely nothing to do with religion at all.

I think its all a matter of interpretation, but me personnaly i would rather just not take the risk in being condemned for it. For me, preforming homosexual acts or encouraging them would be sinning. I personnaly believe that taking the risk of doing something that may be an abomination to the lord is not loving the lord.

Yes, for you personally. That's the point. If you believe that homosexuality is wrong, that's fine. You go on doing that. You don't have to attend weddings in which a homosexual couple is marrying. You can teach your children whatever you wish about the issue. That does not mean others don't have differing viewpoints.

I am going to vote NO to gay marraige, because i don't want the people in my childrens lives to be influencing them to think homosexuality is ok. For example, my children may grow up and see teachers who are possibly gay. They will see friends with gay parents, and friends who are gay themselves. Although you already see gay kids in public schools, gay children will only be more and more common if gay marraige is accepted. These people will shape my kids lives and will influence my children into thinking that the idea is ok. I don't want them to take that risk in just the same way that i didn't take the risk.

You can't interpret and twist the bibles teachings. You are risking the chance of doing the wrong thing, and that in and of itself is wrong.
*this is only my opinion*

That's fine! You can vote for whatever you wish (assuming you're of age). However, you realize that when a child is growing up (before teen years), their parents are the BIGGEST influence on them? Your seven-year-old son's friend Johnny isn't going to tell your son that homosexuality is OK. Johnny doesn't understand the concept of homosexuality at such a young age anyway. I highly doubt two children are going to start discussing homosexuality and their opinions on the matter. Any "opinion" a child has is the same as their parents at such a young age. If you teach your child something, he's going to think that way until he has the capacity to think for himself. Even then, it might not change. So, saying that homosexual marriage is wrong because you don't want your childrens' friends to influence them to think that way is really illogical, because it wouldn't happen either way.

And no one is interpreting or twisting teachings made by the Bible but you. I'm pretty sure a majority of those that are arguing for gay marriage have no concern with what the Bible says.

That is only your opinion. Only yours. See the point?

[*Uronacid*]

have you considered the possiblity that some people dont CARE what a christian god thinks of who they love? and that as such, they ought to be entitled to marry who they love
homosexuality IS ok. there. now, have you been influenced by that very frank, very diect message? no? well then why do you think that your children will be influenced just by being near someone who is gay, and discussing something unrelated? and if yes, then i assume that you have been converted to my side of the argument. muahahaha.

and if, as you say, the idea that homosexual marriage may be an affront to the lord, is just you ropinion, then why on earth should two people who love each other be stopped from marrying one another because of your opinion? they dont care about you, your god, or your condemnation. they care about each other, so let them get on with it.

hey, some people don't care, thats fine... you are all open to your own opinions, i'm only stating why i am against gay marriage. I AM RELIGIOUS, AND MY RELIOGION WILL EFFECT MY OPINION. Believe what you want to believe. My reliogion states the opposite. If you don't believe in my religion then don't worry about my opinion...

Children are influenced and raised by the environment around them, i personally want my children to grow up and love god the same way i did... i will vote againast gay marriage, becuase letting homosexuals get married will only make homosexuality more and more common. Thus, my children and their children's children will be effected by it more and more. I care about them and want them to do the morally right thing. If this means protecting them from the now ever-so-popular gay community, then i will do so by voting against gay marriage.

have you considered the possiblity that some people dont CARE what a christian god thinks of who they love? and that as such, they ought to be entitled to marry who they love
homosexuality IS ok. there. now, have you been influenced by that very frank, very diect message? no? well then why do you think that your children will be influenced just by being near someone who is gay, and discussing something unrelated? and if yes, then i assume that you have been converted to my side of the argument. muahahaha.

and if, as you say, the idea that homosexual marriage may be an affront to the lord, is just you ropinion, then why on earth should two people who love each other be stopped from marrying one another because of your opinion? they dont care about you, your god, or your condemnation. they care about each other, so let them get on with it.

I have considered the possiblity, but seeing as there is a large percentage of the population that thinks the same way that i do... maybe you should care what i think if you want to sway the vote.... who are you arguing with... are you argueing with me, or the people who disagree with you... if you want to sway the christian vote, then read the bible and prove us wrong using our own religion... you are the ones trying to change society... YOU ARE THE ONES WHO NEED TO PERSUADE US TO VOTE YES, AND TO DO THAT YOU NEED TO SEE EYE TO EYE. IF YOU DON'T, WE WILL NOT BE INFLUENCED BY YOUR PIONT OF VIEW. "76.5% (159 million) of Americans identify themselves as Christian." Instead of telling me that my religion doesn't matter. Tell me why it doesn't matter. Or better yet, try and use the bible to proove me wrong.

"If you love God" is the key thing there.
I, myself, am an atheist. Ok? That means I don't even believe any sort of deity exists, much less the Christian God. Thus, I do not love any god and do not follow any god. So, why in the world would I care if someone is doing something that is an abomination to someone I don't even believe is real? I really think you're forgetting that Christianity is not the ONLY religion in the world, or the U.S.

76.5% (159 million) of Americans identify themselves as Christian. This is a major slide from 86.2% in 1990. Identification with Christianity has suffered a loss of 9.7 percentage points in 11 years -- about 0.9 percentage points per year. This decline is identical to that observed in Canada between 1981 and 2001. If this trend continues, then by about the year 2042, non-Christians will outnumber the Christians in the U.S.

1.3% are Jewish.
0.5% are Muslim, followers of Islam.
The fastest growing religion (in terms of percentage) is Wicca -- a Neopagan religion that is sometimes referred to as Witchcraft. Numbers of adherents went from 8,000 in 1990 to 134,000 in 2001. Their numbers of adherents are doubling about every 30 months. 4,5 Wiccans in Australia have a very similar growth pattern, from fewer than 2,000 in 1996 to 9,000 in 2001. 10 In Canada, Wiccans and other Neopagans showed the greatest percentage growth of any faith group. They totaled 21,080 members in 1991, an increase of 281% when compared with 1990.
14.1% do not follow any organized religion. There are more Americans who say they are not affiliated with any organized religion than there are Episcopalians, Methodists, and Lutherans taken together. [1]

See? There's a LOT of people that aren't Christian, in any denomination. Now, taking into account that the U.S. population is somewhere around 299,000,000 [2], that means that approximately 140,000,000 people are not Christian in the United States alone. Does it really seem sensible to base a law that could affect hundreds of millions of people in their romantic lives on the wishes of a religion that 140,000,000 citizens don't even practice? Marriage is not a Christian institution. It's a governmental one. It has absolutely nothing to do with religion at all.
Yes, for you personally. That's the point. If you believe that homosexuality is wrong, that's fine. You go on doing that. You don't have to attend weddings in which a homosexual couple is marrying. You can teach your children whatever you wish about the issue. That does not mean others don't have differing viewpoints.
That's fine! You can vote for whatever you wish (assuming you're of age). However, you realize that when a child is growing up (before teen years), their parents are the BIGGEST influence on them? Your seven-year-old son's friend Johnny isn't going to tell your son that homosexuality is OK. Johnny doesn't understand the concept of homosexuality at such a young age anyway. I highly doubt two children are going to start discussing homosexuality and their opinions on the matter. Any "opinion" a child has is the same as their parents at such a young age. If you teach your child something, he's going to think that way until he has the capacity to think for himself. Even then, it might not change. So, saying that homosexual marriage is wrong because you don't want your childrens' friends to influence them to think that way is really illogical, because it wouldn't happen either way.

And no one is interpreting or twisting teachings made by the Bible but you. I'm pretty sure a majority of those that are arguing for gay marriage have no concern with what the Bible says.

That is only your opinion. Only yours. See the point?

im not misinterpreting the bible at all, im only saying that there is a possiblity that the bible condemns it... that possiblilty is enough for me to vote no. BTW, thank for being respectful of my religion. *not sarcastic*

[*disco infiltrator*]

Percentages kind of sway your mind a bit. Sure, 77% of our nation is Christian, but like I pointed out - that 23% of the nation that's not is a lot of people.

And, even if the majority of the country is Christian, that doesn't mean all of those Christians agree that gay marriage is wrong. I actually know a fair amount of Christians personally who recognize that there is frequently marriages that are not affiliated with any denomination of Christianity (not just marriages without a determined religion attatched to them, but Jewish, Muslim, and ethnic religious marriages as well) and that marriage is a governmental institution, not a religious one.

I agree that due to what is said in the Bible, it would probably be odd to find a homosexual couple being married by a priest in a church. That is, by default, what a lot of people envision when they think of marriage. However, once you think about it, marriage very often doesn't happen that way.

I really don't see why homosexual marriages have to be banned for all. It makes a lot of sense for the church to not allow them in churches, with ministers - but not to outlaw it for the country as a whole, as there is no established religion in the United States and one of the founding principles of our country is freedom of religion.

[AngelinaTaylor]

Percentages kind of sway your mind a bit. Sure, 77% of our nation is Christian, but like I pointed out - that 23% of the nation that's not is a lot of people.

And, even if the majority of the country is Christian, that doesn't mean all of those Christians agree that gay marriage is wrong. I actually know a fair amount of Christians personally who recognize that there is frequently marriages that are not affiliated with any denomination of Christianity (not just marriages without a determined religion attatched to them, but Jewish, Muslim, and ethnic religious marriages as well) and that marriage is a governmental institution, not a religious one.

I agree that due to what is said in the Bible, it would probably be odd to find a homosexual couple being married by a priest in a church. That is, by default, what a lot of people envision when they think of marriage. However, once you think about it, marriage very often doesn't happen that way.

I really don't see why homosexual marriages have to be banned for all. It makes a lot of sense for the church to not allow them in churches, with ministers - but not to outlaw it for the country as a whole, as there is no established religion in the United States and one of the founding principles of our country is freedom of religion.

Right on.

The reason why they're banning it is because they don't want gay couples to adopt children. And I agree to some extent with that - a child has to grow up with a mother and a dad as role models, not two moms or two dads. And just think about how this kid will be harassed by his/her peers.

But other than that, I have nothing against it.

Taylor``

[*mipadi*]

Children are influenced and raised by the environment around them, i personally want my children to grow up and love god the same way i did... i will vote againast gay marriage, becuase letting homosexuals get married will only make homosexuality more and more common. Thus, my children and their children's children will be effected by it more and more. I care about them and want them to do the morally right thing. If this means protecting them from the now ever-so-popular gay community, then i will do so by voting against gay marriage.

Making gay marriage legal doesn't mean you have to support it. You're still free to teach your kids what you want. I'd never support this, but if you desire, you can teach your kids that homosexuality is an abomination, even if gay marriage is legal.

But do you really want to do that? Do you really think it's a good idea to teach your kids hate?

[*Uronacid*]

Percentages kind of sway your mind a bit. Sure, 77% of our nation is Christian, but like I pointed out - that 23% of the nation that's not is a lot of people.

And, even if the majority of the country is Christian, that doesn't mean all of those Christians agree that gay marriage is wrong. I actually know a fair amount of Christians personally who recognize that there is frequently marriages that are not affiliated with any denomination of Christianity (not just marriages without a determined religion attatched to them, but Jewish, Muslim, and ethnic religious marriages as well) and that marriage is a governmental institution, not a religious one.

I agree that due to what is said in the Bible, it would probably be odd to find a homosexual couple being married by a priest in a church. That is, by default, what a lot of people envision when they think of marriage. However, once you think about it, marriage very often doesn't happen that way.

I really don't see why homosexual marriages have to be banned for all. It makes a lot of sense for the church to not allow them in churches, with ministers - but not to outlaw it for the country as a whole, as there is no established religion in the United States and one of the founding principles of our country is freedom of religion.

I see your piont, but as for me it is a sin... For me to vote yes i would have to support homosexuality, and that i do not.

Making gay marriage legal doesn't mean you have to support it. You're still free to teach your kids what you want. I'd never support this, but if you desire, you can teach your kids that homosexuality is an abomination, even if gay marriage is legal.

But do you really want to do that? Do you really think it's a good idea to teach your kids hate?

-In my opinion, voting for gay marriage IS supporting gay marraige

-I don't hate gay people, I am just aposed to gay marriage and homosexuality... personally I believe its wrong.

-Yes, you can teach your kids about homosexuality and how wrong it is, but raiseing my kids in an area where homosexuality is becoming increasingly more popular will only make raising my kids more difficult. Making gay marraige legal will obviously increase the homosexual population. Children aren't just influenced by their parents. They are influenced by the environment around them. Example: Mass. contained the largest per capita population of homosexuals. Is the only state that currently accepts gay marraige.

-Teaching my kids that homosexuality is an abomination, and teaching my kids to hate homosexuals are two totally different things. Hate the sin, and love the sinner. No i do not think teaching my kdis to hate is a good idea, and thats why i will not do it.

[*mipadi*]

Example: Mass. contained the largest per capita population of homosexuals. Is the only state that currently accepts gay marraige.

Massachusett had a high population of homosexuals long before gay marriage was made legal there.

At any rate, couldn't it be that gays moved there because of the society's freedom, not because gay marriage had any influence?

[*I Shot JFK*]

I see your piont, but as for me it is a sin... For me to vote yes i would have to support homosexuality, and that i do not.
-In my opinion, voting for gay marriage IS supporting gay marraige

-I don't hate gay people, I am just aposed to gay marriage and homosexuality... personally I believe its wrong.

-Yes, you can teach your kids about homosexuality and how wrong it is, but raiseing my kids in an area where homosexuality is becoming increasingly more popular will only make raising my kids more difficult. Making gay marraige legal will obviously increase the homosexual population. Children aren't just influenced by their parents. They are influenced by the environment around them. Example: Mass. contained the largest per capita population of homosexuals. Is the only state that currently accepts gay marraige.

-Teaching my kids that homosexuality is an abomination, and teaching my kids to hate homosexuals are two totally different things. Hate the sin, and love the sinner. No i do not think teaching my kdis to hate is a good idea, and thats why i will not do it.

surely, you should WANT your children to see and experience all types of life? and for them to draw their own conclusions. as far as i am concerned, a 'love' of god that comes just from always being told that its the only way isnt LOVE, its just accepting a fact, like that the sky is blue. if they truly love your god, then they will love him anyway, regardless of 'evil' influences.

[NoSex]

Gay marriage is an issue of equal rights. So long as the homosexual population pays equal taxes, they should be granted equal legal observance of marriage partnership. Otherwise, it would be immoral and unfair to deny them such a right. And, churchs are getting it easy in the whole ordeal anyways. I doubt any state is going to be forcing a church to recognize holy vows among a same sex couple.

So, let's start talking about that tax exempt status, huh?

[*I Shot JFK*]

^ lol. see, now i would f**k a guy to get out of taxes for the rest of my life. no problems there.

[PrincessAda]

People should marry whoever they want. Its not affecting me so why should I care.

[*Statues/Shadows*]

I see your piont, but as for me it is a sin... For me to vote yes i would have to support homosexuality, and that i do not.
-In my opinion, voting for gay marriage IS supporting gay marraige

-I don't hate gay people, I am just aposed to gay marriage and homosexuality... personally I believe its wrong.

-Yes, you can teach your kids about homosexuality and how wrong it is, but raiseing my kids in an area where homosexuality is becoming increasingly more popular will only make raising my kids more difficult. Making gay marraige legal will obviously increase the homosexual population. Children aren't just influenced by their parents. They are influenced by the environment around them. Example: Mass. contained the largest per capita population of homosexuals. Is the only state that currently accepts gay marraige.

-Teaching my kids that homosexuality is an abomination, and teaching my kids to hate homosexuals are two totally different things. Hate the sin, and love the sinner. No i do not think teaching my kdis to hate is a good idea, and thats why i will not do it.

James was right; you really are repulsively deluded. (And while I'm bitching, commas and apostrophes are your friends. Do be kind enough to do something right and teach your kids about those in the very least. They don't bite, I promise.)

[*This Confession*]

I'm against all gay marriges its a religion thing. So i'm sure everyone has heard it and I'm not going to fight with anyone over it.

But in a way they do apopt kids since they can't have kids. And that does help. But it still is wrong..

Jeez, it bothers me how people always quote Uronacid.
People believe in their religion, so let them believe in it. They teach you to be against it and reasons why. Yes they can listen to others opinions that don't believe in God and stuff but it doesn't change their opinion all to much. I'm glad you stand up being agnostic and such but Its wrong to some people and so be it.

[sw33t_rouge]

i personally is against it because God didnt make us that way.

[*disco infiltrator*]

I'm against all gay marriges its a religion thing. So i'm sure everyone has heard it and I'm not going to fight with anyone over it.

But in a way they do apopt kids since they can't have kids. And that does help. But it still is wrong..

Jeez, it bothers me how people always quote Uronacid.
People believe in their religion, so let them believe in it. They teach you to be against it and reasons why. Yes they can listen to others opinions that don't believe in God and stuff but it doesn't change their opinion all to much. I'm glad you stand up being agnostic and such but Its wrong to some people and so be it.

I don't think those of us that are debating the religious right are agnostic.
And, again, it's great that you're religious and all, and that's fine. No one's trying to make you go against your religion. But, you know, other people don't believe the same things as you. So why in the world should they follow your religion? Let them believe in theirs. You might want to think about what you're telling us to do and follow through with it. Just because gay marriages are allowed doesn't mean that you have to participate or attend one or teach your children any differently. I don't understand how Joan and Mary getting married affects you in any way at all.

[*I Shot JFK*]

^ exactly what i was going to say.

it is 100% acceptable to be homophobic. it is 100% acceptable to be religious. i think it makes you look a bit of an ass, but thats just me.

however, it is NOT acceptable to use your own beliefs as justification for denying others of their rights, when your own beliefs have no bearing on their own personal lives.

[*This Confession*]

I don't think those of us that are debating the religious right are agnostic.
And, again, it's great that you're religious and all, and that's fine. No one's trying to make you go against your religion. But, you know, other people don't believe the same things as you. So why in the world should they follow your religion? Let them believe in theirs. You might want to think about what you're telling us to do and follow through with it. Just because gay marriages are allowed doesn't mean that you have to participate or attend one or teach your children any differently. I don't understand how Joan and Mary getting married affects you in any way at all.

I'm not here to change the way you think. I could care less if you don't believe in the same thing as me, Its your life not mine.

[*Uronacid*]

Reply to all of the above:

If you are a chirstian you love God. Loving God means learning more about him. Loving God means following his word. You believe that God is the only form of perfect love. Teaching my children about God and how to love God will be the best way to teach my children how to love.

WE WILL NOT HATE HOMOSEXUALS, WE WILL NOT BE HOMOPHOBES, BUT WE WILL HATE HOMOSEXULAITY AS A SIN AND MAKE IT AS HARD AS POSSBILE FOR THOSE THAT ARE SINNING TO SIN. I WIL ALSO PROTECT MY CHILDREN FROM EVERYTHING THE BEST I CAN WITHOUT TAKING AWAY THEIR FREEDOM. IF CHILDREN BECOME GAY I WILL LOVE THEM BUT I WILL STILL VOTE AGIANST HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE.

MY POINT OF VIEW AS A CHRISTIAN:

GOD FIRST - EVERYTHING ELSE SECOND

If you don't look at this from my side of the fence. You will never convince me otherwise. I would never hurt a homosexual becuase he/she is a homosexual. I would never bring up my views on homosexuality infront of a homosexual unless he/she asked of my opinion. The only reason i share them on this board is becuase this is the proper place to do so. I respect homosexuals as people... this is another reason i vote no against homosexulaity... think of it like me not allowing someone to do something that they want to do, but they are blind to the consequences(possible eternal damnation)...