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ApoKa
post May 26 2004, 06:42 PM
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why is profanity so bad? the only reason we have the label "profanity" is because people choose to use them negatively. the f word really means sex, or something related. it was never meant to be taken on a negative light. the derogative f word (the one insulting sexual orientation) really wasnt supposed to be considered an insult. it was just meant to classify someone as gay, the same affect as the word "homosexual". now it is considered a bad word. personally, i dont see anything wrong with profanity. do you?
 
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post May 26 2004, 06:52 PM
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Well, as far as our society has come today, profanity is still bad, no matter if it's just a word or not. Society has hyped it up to be bad. Censoring things, doesn't help, either...it just makes kids either curious or want to abuse those words. *Wonders if she just made sense*
 
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post May 26 2004, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 26 2004, 6:52 PM)
Well, as far as our society has come today, profanity is still bad, no matter if it's just a word or not. Society has hyped it up to be bad. Censoring things, doesn't help, either...it just makes kids either curious or want to abuse those words. *Wonders if she just made sense*

what is profanity?
 
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post May 26 2004, 07:13 PM
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yeah u shud tell us wat that means before we answer it lols... there are some ppls who doesnt know that word^^
 
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post May 26 2004, 08:15 PM
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ok. lol. srry.
profanity, in general terms, is a offensive term. like a curse word. f00k spelled correctly is profanity.
censorship is like...silencing or prohibiting word or opinoins. well, at least in the context.
ehhh, now i dont feel like i made much sense. wacko.gif
 
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post May 26 2004, 08:16 PM
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cuz s0me ppl take it offensive
 
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post May 26 2004, 08:20 PM
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It's sad that full blown violence can take place on T.V. while profanity is still an iffy subject.

Same with nudity....nothing wrong with nudity. Sex is a mature subject...but nudity? Not every naked person is having sex.
 
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post May 26 2004, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 26 2004, 6:20 PM)
Same with nudity....nothing wrong with nudity. Sex is a mature subject...but nudity? Not every naked person is having sex.

Yes that's true, but society has hyped it up to be where every naked person is having some sort of sex. Atleast on TV.

About profanity,
It may be a word, but the meanings behind them are offensive to people.
Even if the meanings aren't meant to be offensive.
 
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post May 26 2004, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(ApoKa @ May 26 2004, 8:15 PM)
ok. lol. srry.
profanity, in general terms, is a offensive term. like a curse word. f00k spelled correctly is profanity.
censorship is like...silencing or prohibiting word or opinoins. well, at least in the context.
ehhh, now i dont feel like i made much sense. wacko.gif

So if profanity is something offensive, then if I say "I hate Jews", which is offesnives to Jewish people, is that profanity?
 
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post May 26 2004, 08:30 PM
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We should be able to have a chose when we sign up for cable for like Nudity on regular TV or not... that would be awesome...

I would like to have a nudist colony!
 
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post May 26 2004, 10:55 PM
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im making up my own cuss word its "smorgbutt" yes... now this will be the worst profanity around... muhuhahaha! start using it people! it can mean "the f word" or "the d word" or the b word" or "the other b word"
 
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post May 26 2004, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(loseronaisle5 @ May 26 2004, 8:55 PM)
im making up my own cuss word its "smorgbutt" yes... now this will be the worst profanity around... muhuhahaha! start using it people! it can mean "the f word" or "the d word" or the b word" or "the other b word"

I'm going to use that! xD
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post May 26 2004, 11:06 PM
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haha!! yes my plan my plan!! by they way i like your avatar "kill me" its neat did you make it?
 
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post May 26 2004, 11:06 PM
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The censorship of profanity and nudity are for the same reason. And it all goes back to up bringing. As kids we naturally copy what we see and hear. Thats how we learn everything basically. We either copy or through trial and error. So if a younger child who doesnt really have a grasp on right and wrong sees someone with no clothes on they will copy them out of, I hate to say instinct but its the best word I can think of. Same goes for profanity, which is more towards degrading words than towards offensive, for me at least. Once kids get older they rebel and thats when the cenorship works against parents. It is a double edged sword.

Profanity is like everything else in the world. It all depends on your personality. Profanity doesnt bother me but at the sametime I try not to use it. Someone once told me that if you have to rely on those types of words it shows your lack of a vocabulary as well as other things.


I think my post is too big lol <remembers the thread about large posts and no one really reading them>
 
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post May 26 2004, 11:24 PM
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well i read it, you have a point BUT. parents need to teach their kids about human nature etc. this could even come to the argument about parents not raising their kids as well as they should, maybe (gasp) they should be mindful of what they watch and stop shoving in front of the tv everytime they get to be a handful...?
 
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But the thing is - parents don't seem to care about their children anymore, which is why everything's being hyped up from something that is not such a big deal.
 
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post May 27 2004, 06:58 PM
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Well, when i swear, which is sort of common, people dont take offense to it. derogative comments, i believe, are different from profanity. derogative words (like the anti-gay f-word) are not ok to say. harmless words (like the actual f-word) should be allowed. and nudity should fine as well. im not just saying that cuz im a guy either.
 
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post May 27 2004, 07:14 PM
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fun fact!

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that's where it originated! a [f word] was certificate of permission from the king for people of nobelty to have sex. now go tell everyone!

it really is a tough subject to discuss because their is no right thing to do. it's probably best kids don't know what sex really is until they're 12ish, but dirty words should be known by little kids so they know not to say them. but all kids are different so they might abuse them. who cares? i'm not a parent and i don't plan on being one.

how come movies don't show the negative effects of drugs? graphicly? like in a movie you'll only hear about somone getting killed by driving drunk. they should show the windows shattering, the heads beign crushed, the torsos flying, etc. etc. etc. that'll really scare m straight.
 
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post May 27 2004, 07:30 PM
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Okay.... I'm hearing alot of stuff, and it all sounds understandable.

but this is what I think.

Some kids use the words because they aren't supposed to.
Some kids use the words because they are expected to.

Don't give them a reason to use profane language.
As for censorship, if you take the bad knowledge away make sure you make everything clear.

There is a lot of discussion as to what is right or wrong to say on television.
It all boils down to curtesy, and people kissing asses.
Don't teach your kids reasons to use profanity.
Don't not teach your kids the meaning of profanity.
 
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post May 27 2004, 10:42 PM
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if kids knew it wasn't a big deal, they wouldn't use them much. its a media hyped up issue which is stupid. and sex... whats wrong with showing what is just basic human nature? like sneezing, coughing, crapping, any of that stuff its the same.
 
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post May 29 2004, 08:03 PM
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nothing is innately profane. each culture decides it. i am against nearly all forms of censorship.
 
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post May 29 2004, 08:09 PM
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if kids knew it wasn't a big deal, they wouldn't use them much

Exactly - the media shapes our lives, even though we don't know it. They're the ones with the news, showing us their TV shows, their movies, etc. They're the ones that are telling us what's right from wrong, and parents agree, so they just enforce it.
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post May 29 2004, 08:16 PM
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i agree. i think that most forms of profanity are okay because they are just terms to express feelings and emotions. but i think some is disrespectful. like if a guy calls a girl their b!tch (i call some guys my sex b!tches but that's just a joke) then that is disrespectful and i personaly don't like it. _dry.gif
 
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but i think some is disrespectful. like if a guy calls a girl their b!tch (i call some guys my sex b!tches but that's just a joke) then that is disrespectful and i personaly don't like it.

It may be disrespectful, but there are other names people use to make fun of others...they aren't considered profanity.
 
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post May 29 2004, 10:27 PM
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man.. people are wayy differnt than ppl bak in the days.... we'd be whipped for even glancing at a guy/lady.. or be made to eat soap for saying "stupid" wut happend????? =/
 
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