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do u think its ok for parents to hit kids?? what abt older bros n sisters
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QUOTE so if its ok...at what age is it NOT ok....n how do u know if its abuse...i mean if the rents r using belts is that bad then? It's upon the kids to tell their parents when it's not ok anymore. It's abuse when a parent isn't punishing a child justly, rather taking out anger on them. And belts are a little extreme, it gives the parents the luxury of not actually hitting their kid with their own hand. But kids do need a little physical pain every now and then to snap them back into reality, or else they grow up into a brat. Just a little punishment though. |
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![]() WUT THA DUCK? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,950 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,138 ![]() |
nooo!!!! wut kind of message will you give to them? it wont teach them from right or wrong!!! though they probaley wont ever do it again... they still wont get why its wrong... the parent has to talk to the child... make them understand wut they did was wrong... hitting them wont do anything... but scare them!
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![]() i'm too cool 4 school ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 ![]() |
talking without something else will do nothing.
I saw this thing and the parents didn't discipline their kids. they would fight each other and the parents would stand there and say no spencer don't do that it hurt your brother. What did he do? turn around and slam him to the ground. Talk without actions doesn't do anything. I know i don't do things that i would get in trouble for anymore because my parents beat some sense into me, they didn't abuse me but when i did something wrong i would get a spanking. Now some parents take it tooo far. But i have gotten in trouble a few years back because i had 2 f, that was a point in my life when i was acting all sorts of crazy and didn't care but when i knew i had to come home and face the music it put fear in me and i wouldn't do it again |
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nooo its not ok. its child abuse!
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oh boy... this brings back bad memories...
one day, i was in my bedroom and i heard my father yelling my name out and telling me to wash the dishes. I got out of my bedroom and went to the kitchen. While i was washing the dishes, my father kept talking about how i was a STUPID child... LAZY... etc... he kept dumping more dishes into the sink and one fell to the floor... i picked it up... he kept on talking and talking... that was when i got fed up with him and talked back (i was raised to not talk back to elders... especially family) so after a couple minutes of arguing... my dad raised his hand to smack me. I said "go ahead and hit me!" so... my father took his right hand and put it around my neck... i was pushed to the edge of the sink... and that's when my mother went into the kitchen and glared at me... she called my name and slapped me... my older sister is worse... so no... i do not think it's EVER right to hit a child. I do believe in disclipline and that doesn't involve "no tv for a week" or "no more PS2!" I agree that parent's don't take enough actions with their children... but i don't think VERBAL abuse or PHYSICAL abuse is a good thing. trust me... i have to deal with both every day... |
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 21 2004, 4:41 PM) And...is it okay for older brothers and sisters to hit kids? I don't think so - they're not the parents. As much as I would love to hit my sister, I don't; nor can I. You should. I probably would. |
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my mom beats me sometimes. but it's cuz i deserve it..
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QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 22 2004, 9:47 AM) It's upon the kids to tell their parents when it's not ok anymore. It's abuse when a parent isn't punishing a child justly, rather taking out anger on them. I agree with that wholeheartedly. The responsibility of abuse, lies not only on the parents, but also on the child. If you're seriously abused, speak out to someone, call for help, don't just 'take it like a man' when you can barely stand on your own two feet. With most parents, they punish in hope to discipline their children for the better. Though that may not be effective for some parents, for some others, it's very effective. I was raised with firm hands, and I dare say I've experienced belts, shoes, yard sticks, brooms... etc. But I don't consider myself to be a person who's prone to violent outbursts. In fact, I'm so stubborn, that I think if my parents hadn't punished me the way they did, I would turn out to be such a menace, no good to anyone. |
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i guess....:-/
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Yes I think it is alright. Because first, it disciplines your child and teaches them that what they did was wrong so that they can learn the difference between right and wrong... But if taken too far (bruises, bleeding, etc.) like child abuse, absolutely no! I also agree with Kathleen, kids need to know what's right and wrong and not just do whatever the heck they want. Kids these days...
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When I was really little and still wearing diapers my mom used to hit my diaper because I wouldn't listen. Once I was out of them though neither one of my parents ever hit me. It's worked out pretty well. I don't get in trouble and I didn't need to be hit to become a good kid.
I don't see the point in hitting your kids. If my parents did hit me I wouldn't respect them. A kid can make their parent's lives Hell if they want. |
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QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 21 2004, 6:04 PM) I see what you're saying about how hitting would discipline them.. but too many parents that do hit their kids are abusive and ingrain a sense of violence in them, that they express in their own lives I guess in an idealistic world, sparingly hitting a child for disciplinary purposes would help them develop a sense of right and wrong well.. but let's face it, we dont live in an idealistic world, and all too often the parents' anger and frustration at whatever the child has done gets out of hand.. and that's why I'm against this have you read any alice miller books? because she's a child psychologist that agrees that the root cause of violence in our society is due to childhood trauma. but not every kid that gets hit grows up to become a violent person... there are kids out there doin' whatever the hell they want to because their parents don't hit them. this gives them a sense of control over their parents. and there ARE parents out there who discipline their children the way they ought to be disciplined. i'm glad my parents beat the crap outta me when i caused trouble. i think, though, there's a certain age where discipline would be the most effective; for example, hitting a four year old is not exactly kosher haha.. but once the kid is 10-12 yrs old he should know right from wrong, and will understand why he gets punished. i believe there is a certain degree to which you can punish a child also. like they say, the punishment should match the crime. |
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QUOTE have you read any alice miller books? because she's a child psychologist that agrees that the root cause of violence in our society is due to childhood trauma. Hmm...for one, how qualified is she for this job, and secondly, are we going to decide on how we treat our kids based on this one lady? QUOTE i believe there is a certain degree to which you can punish a child also. like they say, the punishment should match the crime. I do somewhat agree with the last part of your post. ![]() |
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but by hitting ur kids doesnt it give them the idea that its ok to hit....i mean what r u gonna do if ur kid gets in a fight...hit them for hitting?
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QUOTE but by hitting ur kids doesnt it give them the idea that its ok to hit....i men what r u gonna do if ur kid gets in a fight...hit them for hitting? What are you going to do instead? Take away their cell phones? Oh the poor thing. That teaches them ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! That's what's wrong with society...people are too scared. Just look at politicians. No one wants to do something about gay marriages simply because they're scared of losing their job if they actually say they don't see anything wrong in them. |
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jun 12 2004, 10:56 PM) What are you going to do instead? Take away their cell phones? Oh the poor thing. That teaches them ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! That's what's wrong with society...people are too scared. Just look at politicians. No one wants to do something about gay marriages simply because they're scared of losing their job if they actually say they don't see anything wrong in them. yeah i guess i see what ur saying but i mean if its 2 lil kids n ur kid hits the kid and then u smack them....i mean they r gonna think so mommy can hit me but i cant hit ppl....the politicians thing confused me...r u saying parents r afraid of punishing their kids b/c they dunt wanna lose friendships with their kids? |
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jun 12 2004, 10:23 PM) Hmm...for one, how qualified is she for this job, and secondly, are we going to decide on how we treat our kids based on this one lady? nah i just brought that up for that dude i quoted to see if he agreed with her theories. she's a world reknowned child psychologist, though i see many holes i her theory, and i personally don't believe it. i just did an essay on her work, so his comment reminded me of her haha. QUOTE What are you going to do instead? Take away their cell phones? Oh the poor thing. That teaches them ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! That's what's wrong with society...people are too scared. Just look at politicians. No one wants to do something about gay marriages simply because they're scared of losing their job if they actually say they don't see anything wrong in them. ...lol omg, mommy, don't take away my cellie please! ;o |
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QUOTE I don't see the point in hitting your kids. If my parents did hit me I wouldn't respect them. A kid can make their parent's lives Hell if they want I wouldn't respect my parents if they let me run free without punishment. The point in hitting the child is to teach them discipline. So called punishment with taking things away means nothing to me cuz shoot i can entertain myslef and have a good ole time. Plus when i got spanked, beat, whatever you want to call it, it was done and over with after that no hard feelings but i knew not to do what i did again. Man if i wasn't afraid of my parents i would run free |
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QUOTE yeah i guess i see what ur saying but i mean if its 2 lil kids n ur kid hits the kid and then u smack them....i mean they r gonna think so mommy can hit me but i cant hit ppl....the politicians thing confused me...r u saying parents r afraid of punishing their kids b/c they dunt wanna lose friendships with their kids? Yes, but the mother is the authority here - there's a difference. With the politician remark, I was simply commenting on the fact that they're too afraid to do anything drastic because they don't want to lose their jobs (i.e. gay marriages...the majority of people don't want them, and the others that don't see anything wrong in them won't even speak up). Um I'm saying parents are afraid of punishing their kids because society has altered drastically. One little hit can be called "child abuse" nowadays. QUOTE nah i just brought that up for that dude i quoted to see if he agreed with her theories. she's a world reknowned child psychologist, though i see many holes i her theory, and i personally don't believe it. i just did an essay on her work, so his comment reminded me of her haha. Oh okay. ![]() |
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QUOTE my older sister is worse... so no... i do not think it's EVER right to hit a child. I do believe in disclipline and that doesn't involve "no tv for a week" or "no more PS2!" I agree that parent's don't take enough actions with their children... but i don't think VERBAL abuse or PHYSICAL abuse is a good thing. trust me... i have to deal with both every day... So we do....? Using any weapon or anything besides your own hand in hitting a child is wrong. If youre going to hit them, use your own hand. |
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QUOTE(princess2113 @ May 21 2004, 4:36 PM) do u think its ok for parents to hit kids?? what abt older bros n sisters me and my sisters beatthe crap pit of eachother frequently, and i'm great. i dunno about the, but it's a good estemation that they are. |
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QUOTE(charismatic_chick @ May 26 2004, 3:02 PM) but i don't think VERBAL abuse or PHYSICAL abuse is a good thing. trust me... i have to deal with both every day... verbal and physical ABUSE is not the same as verbal and physical DISCIPLINE |
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I think a spanking now and then is okay but when it goes to the hurting point thats when it's gone to far.
brothers and sisters? NO. My brother hits me for no reasons, its definitly NOT ok. And you need to tell someone. I told my parents and they don't care, my borther knows I will do something about it eventually. You just need to show them you arn't scared of them |
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NO
not for reasons or no reasons.... its just not right 1. if u raised your child properly with discipline and respect then they would know enough as not to go that far as to getting hit by their parents 2. also its a bad way to show an example to your kid.... they might behave in the same way when they grow up and have kids of their own 3. I dont think theres such thing as physical discipline.... discipline is teaching your child to behave right not to make them hurt |
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it depends on what the kid does..but i dont think its right to hit kids and brothers and sisters definately don't have right to hit their older/younger siblings..
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