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[*Kathleen*]

If you didn't know...it's my recent obsession. My uncle introduced me to the first season over the summer because he's as obsessed with her as I am with Johnny Depp. So then he sent me the second season. He's going to send me the third season soon and I should be right on time to see the latest season. I love this show. I LOVE IT. I'm glad there's no way to make a reality TV show out of this. *Knocks on wood* At least, that I can think of...

[WhiteLotus*]

Oh wow! I love that show too! I love all the action in there! And it deals with a girl.

[lylbabyblooz]

hmm, i never seen it. but, it's the one with Jennifer Garner, right?

[Winter]

They're showing the third season here and I watch it sometimes. Mostly because Michael Vartan is totally hawtness.

[PurchasedRebelli...]

Must keep this topic alive...

But yeah, season four is disappointing so far... but I'm not going to stop watching it after just three episodes. But as a fan since the beginning, I'm just baffled. It's like they've thrown the first three seasons out the window, like they didn't happen... all that we've learned since then means nothing. UGH.

And now the episodes are self contained, meaning it's like CSI... there's just one storyline for each episode... it's not a continuous storyline like the first three seasons. Rambaldi is taking a back seat until who knows when. I understand that the whole story of Rambaldi is confusing to new viewers and that's why they're not focusing on him, but hello?! How can you have THE CHOSEN ONE, THE PASSENGER, and THE BIGGEST RAMBALDI ZEALOT working together AND NOT HAVE RAMBALDI?! That's just bull.

I know season three sucked and they need more viewers, but to act like the first three seasons didn't happen is just beyond me. Everything is all shiny and new...

And I feel like they're trying to put everything they lacked in season three into every episode. People missed Sydney the person (not Sydney the spy) last season, so we've seen her home countless times already in these first three eps. People missed Sydney having friends... she's thrown a party for Weiss's birthday already. People missed all the butt kicking... we've had MANY fight scenes already. It's just ridiculous.

I had so many questions regarding last season and the season finale, and I feel like none of them were answered. The most important question being what the hell was SAB47... and they totally copped out and gave a pathetic answer. I in no way believe that those documents were about Jack requesting to kill Irina.. what does that have to do with SAB47? A project overseen by Jack and started on the date of Sydney's birth?! I wasted SEVEN months of speculation on SYDNEY when it was just about killing Irina.

Speaking of Irina, they've finally closed the door on her. So she's dead... Jack killed her... do I believe that she's dead? Do I believe that Jack killed her because she'd put a hit on her own daughter? No way. I know the writers had to take her out on way or another because Lena Olin refuses to reprise the role, but the way they did it was just... UGH. Irina Derevko is such an important part of the show and her death just... wasn't enough justice for her.

And I don't understand why VAUGHN is a part of APO (ridiculous name by the way, IMO). I understand Jack is there because he's the closest to Sloane, along with Sydney. And Dixon... because well, they killed each other's wives, and they've worked together for almost as long as Jack's worked with Sloane. Those three have worked with Sloane, they know him... they can keep an eye on him. But Vaughn? What do they need him for? Besides the fact that he's good looking and of course he has to work with Sydney... he has no ties to Sloane. Ugh. (I don't like Vaugh BTW, or the relationship he has with Sydney.)

Oh, and speaking of Dixon and Sloane working together... HOW CAN THEY?! They killed each other's wives, for crying out loud! Yet they show no objection and no hatred towards each other. Unbelievable.

And where is the Covenant? There's no word of them whatsoever... where's KATYA? She tried to kill Sydney, yet she doesn't seem to have anything to say about that... alllllllright...

It's just a web of unanswered questions. And I feel like there's no big aim for ALIAS anymore... no bigger reason why they're doing what they're doing. Before, everything was about Rambaldi... working to recover his works, to find out all they could about him, to find out what his endgame was. And now? Whatever they do in each episode is just that... they're not working to solve this big puzzle. It's just... blah.

I used to wait impatiently each week for this show. Last week? I slept through it and had to wait until Saturday morning to download it. And I wasn't even freaking out about it like I would have been two/three years ago. This used to be a smart show... it used to involve some thinking... and now it's just... Sydney goes out and kicks butt and takes down the bad guy of the day. And that's it.

JJ needs to focus more on Alias and less on Lost... or this season is seriously going to be the last of Alias.




PS.... I know that was LOOOOOOOOOONG rant... but Alias does that to me.

[rockstermonkey]

Alias is amazing, but I agree that this season is a bit weird...The previous seasons were amazing though.

[delightfullyinsa...]

i never starting watching alias to begin with

i actually really regret it because everyone says it WAS such a good show. but ehhh, what can you do?

[PurchasedRebelli...]

i never starting watching alias to begin with

i actually really regret it because everyone says it WAS such a good show. but ehhh, what can you do?

It so was. Now it's just... there. Trying to bring in more viewers. It's doing okay, since Lost is the lead in... but to sacriface the old viewers for new viewers...


Oh, and I didn't even mention the new opening credits. Can you say network interference?! All those flashing pictures is distracting... and the twist to the theme music sucks. I liked the old credits much more.

[*Kathleen*]

And now the episodes are self contained, meaning it's like CSI... there's just one storyline for each episode... it's not a continuous storyline like the first three seasons. Rambaldi is taking a back seat until who knows when. I understand that the whole story of Rambaldi is confusing to new viewers and that's why they're not focusing on him, but hello?! How can you have THE CHOSEN ONE, THE PASSENGER, and THE BIGGEST RAMBALDI ZEALOT working together AND NOT HAVE RAMBALDI?! That's just bull.

Oh my gosh...I know. What happened to those cliffhangers I loved and hated at the same time?

I had so many questions regarding last season and the season finale, and I feel like none of them were answered. The most important question being what the hell was SAB47... and they totally copped out and gave a pathetic answer. I in no way believe that those documents were about Jack requesting to kill Irina.. what does that have to do with SAB47? A project overseen by Jack and started on the date of Sydney's birth?! I wasted SEVEN months of speculation on SYDNEY when it was just about killing Irina.

I know...I honestly can't believe how much they're butchering the season. Did they get new writers?

Speaking of Irina, they've finally closed the door on her. So she's dead... Jack killed her... do I believe that she's dead? Do I believe that Jack killed her because she'd put a hit on her own daughter? No way. I know the writers had to take her out on way or another because Lena Olin refuses to reprise the role, but the way they did it was just... UGH. Irina Derevko is such an important part of the show and her death just... wasn't enough justice for her.

I know. Too bad Abrams refuses to just hire a new actress for the role - he thinks it's sacrilegious.

And I don't understand why VAUGHN is a part of APO (ridiculous name by the way, IMO). I understand Jack is there because he's the closest to Sloane, along with Sydney. And Dixon... because well, they killed each other's wives, and they've worked together for almost as long as Jack's worked with Sloane. Those three have worked with Sloane, they know him... they can keep an eye on him. But Vaughn? What do they need him for? Besides the fact that he's good looking and of course he has to work with Sydney... he has no ties to Sloane. Ugh. (I don't like Vaugh BTW, or the relationship he has with Sydney.)

I agree, but I Michael. Eh...Lauren made me want to throw a shoe at my TV.

Oh, and speaking of Dixon and Sloane working together... HOW CAN THEY?! They killed each other's wives, for crying out loud! Yet they show no objection and no hatred towards each other. Unbelievable.

And where is the Covenant? There's no word of them whatsoever... where's KATYA? She tried to kill Sydney, yet she doesn't seem to have anything to say about that... alllllllright...

Right - nothing ties together anymore.

It's just a web of unanswered questions. And I feel like there's no big aim for ALIAS anymore... no bigger reason why they're doing what they're doing. Before, everything was about Rambaldi... working to recover his works, to find out all they could about him, to find out what his endgame was. And now? Whatever they do in each episode is just that... they're not working to solve this big puzzle. It's just... blah.

I know...I honestly...want to know...where their writers' talent went. Perhaps they should hire us. I'm with you, too - I can't believe they completely...seem...to forget about Rambaldi.

I used to wait impatiently each week for this show. Last week? I slept through it and had to wait until Saturday morning to download it. And I wasn't even freaking out about it like I would have been two/three years ago. This used to be a smart show... it used to involve some thinking... and now it's just... Sydney goes out and kicks butt and takes down the bad guy of the day. And that's it.

Right - they don't even end the show in cliffhangers anymore. Why? Because NOTHING LINKS TOGETHER! Grar.

Oh, and I didn't even mention the new opening credits. Can you say network interference?! All those flashing pictures is distracting... and the twist to the theme music sucks. I liked the old credits much more.

DUDE! I was thinking the same thing. I liked the simple credits they first had. It seems like they're trying to change this season way too much.

[allen]

ALIAS<3. It was my newest obsession this past winter break. (: My sister came home with the Season 3 DVD and I was hooked. I think with Season 4 and how Rambaldi isn't incorporated into as much, you can watch the episodes separately, rather than in a series. I guess that's good for people who start watching in the middle of the season? But yeah, Alias is the shiz.

[RandomHero]

I have never watched an episode of it

[PurchasedRebelli...]

I believe it's still the same writers. But being that most of them are also writing for Lost... it seems they're losing their focus. And JJ apparently is still trying to get his other show starrin Greg Grunberg on TV. If that happens... Alias is even more doomed.

Back in the day, I was an S/V shipper. But then season three came along and I jumped ship. I'm now a converted Sarkney, even if it'll never happen. Vaughn in season three was just... UGH. He kept messing with Sydney's head... in Korea he tells her he loves her and she's the only one for him, they get back home and he runs right back to Lauren because her father is dead. Sure, he needed to comfort her, but did comforting her need to include jumping into bed with her? No. And now I just don't like Vaughn.

And I actually don't like Sydney very much either. She's too stubborn and she gets on my nerves. I actually only watch the show for Jack and Sark. And now that Sark is just a recurring character...

Hopefully the first three episodes aren't how the rest are going to be. I need some old faces to return and some questions answered, or at least have last season addressed. And Vaughn's "last year SUCKED" doesn't quite do it for me.

As for Irina, JJ should have contracted her for more than one season. I seriously don't think she'll be back. But I guess he has hope because he obviously left room for her return later on. But Irina is such an integral part of the show, not having her in season three is pretty much why it sucked so bad. I mean, c'mon. We knew about Irina way back in the beginning of the first season, long before we even saw her... countless episodes were devoted to her. It may be sacrilegious to recast her, but I'd rather have a recast than have the show sucking. Just write it so that Irina had to have surgery to change her appearance for protection. I'd believe that, it's Alias.

And reading the titles of the upcoming episodes... I'm just like, what the heck. They're so different from the first three seasons' titles.


allen, it sucks that you started watching season three first. You should really watch the first two... now they were awesome.

You know, hearing the actors and JJ hype up this season, I really thought it was going to be awesome. So far, I've been let down. This used to be a smart show and I guess that's the thing I miss most about it. Self containment works for shows like CSI because they've got lots of dead bodies and murders to solve and they only need an episode for each scenario. But Alias has/had a purpose.

[xnastyninjagrlx]

hmmm I started watching Alias too, Jennifer Garner is soo hot when she kicks ass...she is adorable but when she kicks ass dang..that makes her 10x hotter...but I don't get the show cuz I didn't see the other seasons..but it is quite interesting i have to say

[captured_serenit...]

i've never seen an episode, but i heard it was really really good...

[PurchasedRebelli...]

The objective word being WAS.

But I guess judging from a person who's never seen the first two episodes, this new season would be considered really good.


Well, new episode tonight... hopefully it rocks.


Speaking Sydney... in the first three episodes, she's been saved three times. Vaughn had to save her in the cargo of the train, Nadia had to save her from the water mask while Jack, Vaughn, AND Dixon were all running down the little bitty hallway to find her...

The old Sydney would have found a way to save herself. When did she become so dependent on other people?

[ghetto_gangsta30...]

i like it too...but i havent seen an episode in so long!

[MasterNe0]

I love this show!

Especially with all the undercover CIA stuff.

Jennifer Garner does a great job on this show and hopefully, it would keep on going.

Especially with the current storyline and all of that things in her life.

[*Kathleen*]

I actually only watch the show for Jack and Sark. And now that Sark is just a recurring character...

I KNOW! Oh my gosh...I Sark. I even miss Will...a lot. I was disappointed when he wasn't there for the third season...he was in what? One episode? *Sigh* Tonight, I'm going out somewhere and I'm just going to tape it. Now, if I really wanted to watch it, I'd stay home. This is how it was with "Buffy" and "Angel". And after watching the first and second seasons especially, I felt...really let down. I really thought they were going to pick it up after Lauren's complete slaughter of the show. But apparently not. And, I know Abrams tends to renovate the show by the end of the season (i.e. getting a completely different set), but this one...sucked. I mean...APO? Black Ops? Come on. They can do so much better. And you're right about the Irina thing - I completely agree. It's just so awkward not having her there. By the way, do you know why Lena Olin refuses to come back? I wonder...if we wrote to J.J....if he would listen to our suggestions...and focus on "Alias" a bit more. About Sydney, I failed to realize that until now. I see what you're saying, though. Eh. I hope it gets better...I'm so disappointed.

[PurchasedRebelli...]

There is no current storyline really. They're just Black Ops... there hasn't been an established big bad guy like the Alliance or Covenant...


Will was awesome. Not having Will and Francie last season really sucked. Not sure if he's coming back for an episode or two this season. Hopefully he does.

Lauren... eww. I have nothing against Melissa, but Lauren just sucked. It's so obvious JJ didn't intend for her to turn bad. The first time we saw her holding a gun, she was like, freaking out. And then later on... she's all bad ass chick sniping and killing a guy. Believable? Hell no. And not only did she ruin the show, she ruined SARK for me. He's always held Sydney in the utmost respect for her skills and whatnot... and then Lauren comes into the picture and he's all drooling over her and saying he's impressed by her skills. Ewww. And he actually killed Bomani... but I'm still convinced that he only killed Bomani to save himself... and making her in his debt... he didn't do it just to save her.

Lena lives on the East coast and Alias is filmed in LA... she doesn't want to spend time away from her family. They even offered her like, a million dollar an episode and she still refused.

The APO office is so white... it's like, blinding.

[mai_z]

I LOVE Alias! Jenifer Garner is awesome. The storyline's sorta slowing down now, not much of a plot, but still very awesome

[imafreakinazn]

i don't really like jennifer garner
i don't really like the show either
sorry
i only like the parodies on it
XDDDD

[*Kathleen*]

There is no current storyline really. They're just Black Ops... there hasn't been an established big bad guy like the Alliance or Covenant...

Speaking of the Covenant, did they actually...ever reveal who the big bad guy was behind that whole thing? I mean...I feel extremely stupid asking that, but...

Will was awesome. Not having Will and Francie last season really sucked. Not sure if he's coming back for an episode or two this season. Hopefully he does.

Yeah, I really hope so. Many of the old parts I loved from the first and second season are gone. One of them being her friends, Francie and Will...and I know it sounds sadistic, but I miss seeing Sydney have to balance out her homelife and her worklife. I don't know. I just thought that that was one of the themes to the show originally, and now it's no longer there. Eh. I don't know what I'm talking about. Haha.

Lauren... eww. I have nothing against Melissa, but Lauren just sucked. It's so obvious JJ didn't intend for her to turn bad. The first time we saw her holding a gun, she was like, freaking out. And then later on... she's all bad ass chick sniping and killing a guy. Believable? Hell no. And not only did she ruin the show, she ruined SARK for me. He's always held Sydney in the utmost respect for her skills and whatnot... and then Lauren comes into the picture and he's all drooling over her and saying he's impressed by her skills. Ewww. And he actually killed Bomani... but I'm still convinced that he only killed Bomani to save himself... and making her in his debt... he didn't do it just to save her.

To me, I kind of always thought she was bad. I mean, when Vaughn married her, I truly did suspect the whole parallel to Jack and Irina. And it happened. I don't know - maybe it was just me. I just kind of knew that there was something wrong about her. There had to be. All the other female characters on the show (with the exception of Syd's sister...so far) seem to have some sort of darkside to them.

Lena lives on the East coast and Alias is filmed in LA... she doesn't want to spend time away from her family. They even offered her like, a million dollar an episode and she still refused.

Oh wow. That's insane. Wow.

The APO office is so white... it's like, blinding.

It is, isn't it? I still can't believe they're working with Sloane...no matter if it's just to keep him busy and try to find his end game or not. I don't know - I just see no purpose in APO at all. Maybe that's just me...

Five minutes!

[Shorty435]

cool, I used to (as still do) love alias, but I haven't seen it in a long time. I used to watch the first season all the time though.

[SystemDamaged]

Alias doesn't seem like the type of show I would really like to watch, but by the looks of how you guys talk about it, maybe I should think about buying the first season

Oh, and if you haven't guess yet, haven't seen any episodes of this show.


Heyyy, Lena Olin was in two movie with Johnny Depp!
Hehe, sorry, off topic, hehe...heh..

[PurchasedRebelli...]

Nope, we have no clue who the head honcho of the Covenant is/was. I want to know who he/she is! And I really want to know who the heck was sitting at that table when Syd as Julia killed Ryan's brother. Cause I swear, from the profile, one of 'em looked like Vaughn. It's the nose...

Sydney being (more like tried to be) a regular girl was one of the biggest reasons I liked the show so much. Yeah, she'd go on missions and kick ass... but then she'd come home and Francie would be there, burning the turkey or Will would be kicking Francie's ass in a game. She had a semblance of a normal life and now they're just trying to get back to that. But she doesn't seem to know anyone outside of the CIA/APO. So it's not really THAT normal. She doesn't have her best friends anymore. And having Nadia live with her isn't going to really cut it.

I think JJ and crew actually thought Lauren was going to be well received. But then they realized they were wrong. So they did the only thing they could, they made her bad. And they were bad at making her bad. I mean, c'mon... the girl was calling and talking to her Covenant handler while she was in the JTF!!! And whenever she was in her bad spy mode, she'd wear all black and like, 10 pounds of eyeliner. She was just horrible. And what I hated most about her is that they keep/kept comparing her to Irina. Lauren is/was nowhere near Irina. Her betrayal of Vaughn doesn't even come CLOSE to the betrayal of Jack.

Yeah, I really don't understand why they created APO... having her work at the CIA was fine. They're doing the exact same thing.

As for tonight's episode... eh. It was lacking. I think I'm almost at the point where JACK isn't even able to salvage the show for me. They really need to figure out where they're heading with all of this and get there fast. I really HATE having these eps self-contained. And the preview for next week's ep? Wow... looks like it's going to suck. Who the heck came up with that idea?

Post 149 by Watch Out Sark (http://sd-1.net/index.php?showtopic=37867&st=140) is exactly how I feel.


SystemDamaged, season one is definitely awesome. It was when Sydney used to have a life, she used to not cry all the time, and the attraction and chemistry between Sydney and Vaughn was actually enjoyable to watch.