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i found out one of my sister does pot, is this the right forum?
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post May 16 2006, 05:25 PM
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I think you should speak to your sister about
Regardless of how close you are to her
And who knows?
Talking to her may be the thing that forms a bond between you two...
 
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post May 16 2006, 07:11 PM
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^ ARE f**king STUPID? JUST STOP TALKING. STOP TALKING NOW

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post May 16 2006, 07:16 PM
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try talking to her about it.
if she gets all mad give her some space..
 
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post May 16 2006, 10:35 PM
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i would ask her why shes doing it. and tell her if she does not stop your gonna tell your parents what she is doing. tell her you dont care if she hates you afterwards because you love her and want to protect her from anything that can harm her. just basically have a LONG conversation with her. and if she starts that old old old story older than time " my friends are doing it why cant i?" just smack her on her head. shifty.gif
 
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post May 17 2006, 09:41 AM
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Okay. Hopefully that comes out in a nice and intelligible way.

FACT: Studies have shown you can get hooked to pot.

FACT: I smoked pot once per day for two years and never got hooked.

I'm sure you'll say that "You did it for two years! It means you were hooked!". No. I did it by choice. Being high feels damn good but it's definetely not a feeling you can get addicted to. Unless you're a f**king weakling with no determination of course... Then you could get hooked to anything. God I've heard of people getting hooked to jacking off!! If they can get hooked to that then no wonder they'll destroy their lives with any drug that comes within their reach.

FACT: Studies have shown that ketamine creates a physical dependency.

FACT: I used the drug countless times and never felt any sort of dependency towards it.

Sometimes I would do it at parties with friends lots of times in a short period of time and then be off of it for 4-5 months before another opportunity presented itself where it would be fun to use the drug. Where did the dependency go??

Catch my drift?

I'm not preaching for drugs, but they are not as bad as these studies make them out. And I believe in what I've learned from my experiences more than in the studies from these so-called governement health experts. I've always followed my gut feelings first and foremost and it has not lead me the wrong way so far. Of course if you haven't tried any drugs you would be forced to believe in the studies, since you don't have any hard evidence of things being otherwise.

Now I do believe that you can get hooked to cocaine and heroin however, because I have known people who are addicted to these drugs. At first I thought that they were just weak of mind but after watching them act for a while I realised it was not the case. I could see the inner struggle they were going through every time their body wanted it's "fix".

One might argue that maybe the hormones in my body don't react as everyone else's and that this is why I didn't get addicted. This is a very real possibility, but remember that speed, X, and special K all have very nasty effects on your health. I used to be in top physical shape (I was quite athletic) before starting to use these chemical drugs but they have quickly deprived me of a lot of my energy. I lost weight, started having troubles sleeping, lost appetite and then one day I realised that it was time to end this. And so I stopped drugs altogether and starting living the healthiest life one could live. I eat 6 clean meals per day, work out 6 times per week and sleep 8 hours per night. I barely drink anymore and will never ever do any drugs again. I've gotten back the muscle that the drugs made me lose (and more) and now I have a 6-pack whistling.gif

Go tell me that drugs destroyed my life.

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post May 17 2006, 10:31 AM
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Why is this still open? Topic starter said she was going to talk to her sister, end of story. Lalal
 
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post May 17 2006, 10:39 AM
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There's still interesting discussion going on.
 
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post May 17 2006, 06:31 PM
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proudpk:

Damn. Talk about assumptions.

I never said that you needed to be addicted to whatever your drug of the moment is, and neither did I say you were a proud advocater of drugs.

Kudos to you, your strong body and determined mindset for being able to withstand any dependency/addiction. That's just f**king peachy.

AND
I hope you are aware that you're wonderful comments on 'f**king weaklings with no determination' was extremely and ignorantly f**ked up.

BECAUSE
Everyone in this world was not graced with a body of solid rock nor a mind with such fierce determination. Fact is, most people aren't AWARE that they're becoming dependent in the first place whether they started by choice or not. When it does dawn on them, the addiction is already pretty developed. Meaning, ITS HARDER FOR THEM TO KICK THE HABIT.

Telling the girl that was asking for advice to not worry about it AND that smoking pot wasn't addictive because YOU didn't become addicted was extremely stupid. Why? For the reason I mentioned above. You sir, seem to be one of those miraculous exceptions. *dry*.

If you don't believe the health experts, I suggest you look into some of the lovely medical books that show you diagrams of the damage drugs cause. Rent one of those videos that show you all those attractive broken down organs that are that way WHY? Because of drugs.

Once again, kudos to you and your gut feelings, but in this case, I'll have to disagree with it. Drugs are bad period. Whether you see the effect now, later, or as a ghost after you're dead.

Years of research has been done of the effects of drugs on your body. That being said, its not something that should be lightly dismissed.
 
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post May 17 2006, 07:50 PM
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Marijuana:

It can eventually kill a person.

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Sometimes marijuana makes users feel thirsty and very hungry—an effect called "the munchies."

Some users can undergo bad effects from marijuana. They may suffer sudden feelings of anxiety and have paranoid thoughts. This is more likely to happen when a more potent variety of marijuana is used.



Heavy or daily use of marijuana affects the parts of the brain that control memory, attention, and learning.


Tell the parents.
 
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post May 17 2006, 11:39 PM
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I never said that I did not believe drugs were bad for you. I explicitly stated that I stopped for HEALTH REASONS.

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I lost weight, started having troubles sleeping, lost appetite and then one day I realised that it was time to end this.


I perfectly and totally agree with the experts on the damage they will cause you. I know that I have felt this damage to some degree although I woke up and stopped in time to control it.

Sorry if my comment on drug addicts being weaklings was rude, but it's what I think. I'm not an idiot who hides behind a screen name to insult people, I say what I think here as I would say it to your face.

Now of course smoking pot is not a GOOD thing. I will however maintain my position that it is just a phase that almost all teens will go through. At least here in Canada it's the most common thing ever. Probably 90% of the people I know have smoked weed at least once, and 50% of these still do it regularly. That doesn't make them junkies. It's just like drinking beer before being legal... And I have found that casually smoking weed (1-2 times a week) was better than casual drinking. No hangover and your reflexes are still almost as fresh. Only your concentration is altered by weed and after you've smoked for a bit you can control the high at will and retain most of your judgement as well (unlike with alcohol).

Bottom line is: don't do any of these things cause they're bad for you, but if people are okay with drinking every week-end then in my opinion weed is just as acceptable.

peace.
 
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post May 18 2006, 01:04 AM
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Rofl? Are you insinuating that I hide behind a screen name to 'insult people'?

Interesting. Well, think what you like of me. If I WAS hiding behind a screen name, a lot of people on CB wouldn't know as well as they do. Ask, and they'll tell you I'm just as blunt IRL, but thanks for judging without knowing. Always makes people seem smart. *thumbs up*

Anyway, just because a lot of teens do it in Canada, does not make it acceptable. I never said all that try are junkies. I'm just saying many of those that try end up being junkies. You yourself said that 50% continue to do it. IMO, 50% isn't a small number. And I'm not even saying that all 50% end up becoming junkies. They just have a better chance.

If you helped them from the beginning, would that not have been better?

Now, the difference between under age drinking and pot is this. Pot is illegal for everyone regardless of age. Why? Because its effects are detrimental regardless.

Drinking is legal after you're 21. Why the age limit? Because first off, our bodies are still growing. We also tend to become drunk faster than adults. We have less discretion in our drinking habits, hence Teen DUI'S.

Now I'm not saying that adults don't have DUI's or that all of them are completely responsible. They just tend to be more.

If you'll remember, the age limit used to be 18. It was changed because of the statistics which came in pinning people age 21 and under for the majority of alcohol related accidents. Hence, the change.

That's the difference.
 
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post May 18 2006, 11:05 AM
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Nah I didn't insinuate that you were insulting people. I stated that some people did it and that I wasn't one of them. I'm sorry to disappoint you but I don't think I'll change my position because of some random argumentation on the internet with someone who lives half a world away. Our situations are not the same and HERE in CANADA smoking weed is SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE. Lots of parents know that their kids have smoked pot and don't do anything about it 'cause they think it's normal.

And think about that: the legal driving age is 16, while the drinking age is 18 or 21. So you would consider a 16 year old kid mature enough to drive a car, knowing that most of them are undoubtebly going to drive fast and recklessly, risking their lifes and other people's lifes, but you would not consider them mature enough to hold a beer in their hand? Laws are f**ked up... I'm for the legalisation of weed just because on the whole it would make people use a less potent version of the drug and the cocaine-laced sh*t would slowly disappear from the market.

You know that drinking before legal age is even more common than pot. Simply EVERYONE does it. At least this applies to all the people I know. I honestly have not met a single 16-17 year old person who didn't go to parties and who didn't drink.
 
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post May 18 2006, 11:14 AM
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I don't think she needs this answer solved anymore
someone brought it back up..
and the person that started it never came back
so i think she got her answer solved... mellow.gif
 
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post May 18 2006, 08:06 PM
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Hi. I'm Anisha. I don't drink at parties. Now you know know one.

The difference between driving a car and drinking is this:

Car: Maturity levels based on personality and morality alone. There are no momentary sway factors. There's a REASON we have driving tests. Its to take some measure to know that we know how to drive. Whether we choose to follow the speed limit is up to is, 16 or 61.

Alchohol: Changes our perception of things. Makes us do things we normally wouldn't do and sometimes masks our fiter mechanism.

So you're saying parents are aware that their children are smoking illegal drugs and aren't do anything?

You know what i call that?

BAD PARENTING.

I don't give a rat's ass if its socially acceptable or if your mom lets you do that.

Drinking is socially acceptable but that doesn't mean most kids don't get their asses filleted by their parents when caught. The cops aren't any more lenient either.

Just because its socially accepted, doesn't make it right.
 
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post May 18 2006, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(priyas @ May 17 2006, 5:50 PM) *
Marijuana:

It can eventually kill a person.

Drinking water:


It can eventually drown a person.
 
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post May 18 2006, 10:17 PM
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post May 19 2006, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(agiri @ May 17 2006, 4:31 PM) *
BECAUSE
Everyone in this world was not graced with a body of solid rock nor a mind with such fierce determination. Fact is, most people aren't AWARE that they're becoming dependent in the first place whether they started by choice or not. When it does dawn on them, the addiction is already pretty developed. Meaning, ITS HARDER FOR THEM TO KICK THE HABIT.

If the user was not aware of the harm it may cause, then it is the person's fault, not the drug.
QUOTE(agiri @ May 17 2006, 11:04 PM) *
Now, the difference between under age drinking and pot is this. Pot is illegal for everyone regardless of age. Why? Because its effects are detrimental regardless.

Detrimental? Lets see some proof, from the research I have done, marijuana does not contain any material that gives a physical addiction.
 
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post May 19 2006, 10:09 PM
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I wouldn't care, she can thank you in the long run. I'd let your parents know before she can get hooked.
 
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post May 19 2006, 10:49 PM
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If the user was not aware of the harm it may cause, then it is the person's fault, not the drug.


When did I say it was the drug's fault? A drug is a drug. Its effects are its effects. Its the users choice to use it. However, if they are unaware of their problem, but a family member is, isn't it their obligation to help them out? Hell, I'd fillet my sister out of love even though she's older. Why? TO HELP HER.

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Is Marijuana Use Addictive?

Long-term marijuana use can lead to addiction for some people; that is, they use the drug compulsively even though it often interferes with family, school, work, and recreational activities. According to the 2001 National Household Survey on Drug Abuse, an estimated 5.6 million Americans age 12 or older reported problems with illicit drug use in the past year. Of these, 3.6 million met diagnostic criteria for dependence on an illicit drug. More than 2 million met diagnostic criteria for dependence on marijuana/hashish. In 1999, more than 220,000 people entering drug abuse treatment programs reported that marijuana was their primary drug of abuse.

Enough?

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QUOTE(agiri @ May 19 2006, 8:49 PM) *
When did I say it was the drug's fault? A drug is a drug. Its effects are its effects. Its the users choice to use it. However, if they are unaware of their problem, but a family member is, isn't it their obligation to help them out? Hell, I'd fillet my sister out of love even though she's older. Why? TO HELP HER.
Enough?

.agiri

When have I ever said that you said it was the drugs fault? Unless this person has been living under a rock their whole life, I'm sure they would have some knowledge of drugs. I highly doubt they were compeletly oblivious the effects of marijuana.
 
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post May 19 2006, 11:01 PM
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Kev's a pot head. which is why he's sticking up for her. hahahaha
 
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Shut yer ass up foo! I dont do that.








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post May 20 2006, 12:52 AM
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^ haha. nice~ ^^

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When have I ever said that you said it was the drugs fault? Unless this person has been living under a rock their whole life, I'm sure they would have some knowledge of drugs. I highly doubt they were compeletly oblivious the effects of marijuana.


my bad, i thought you were saying i did. anywho, even if they are oblivious, everyone takes a wrong turn. imo, its family's duty, if known to them, to help them.

that's like saying saying to some that has their finger jammed in the door
"well, you knew what might happen if you put your finger there, now suffer." instead of opening the door and getting them a band aid.
 
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QUOTE(agiri @ May 19 2006, 10:52 PM) *
^ haha. nice~ ^^
my bad, i thought you were saying i did. anywho, even if they are oblivious, everyone takes a wrong turn. imo, its family's duty, if known to them, to help them.

that's like saying saying to some that has their finger jammed in the door
"well, you knew what might happen if you put your finger there, now suffer." instead of opening the door and getting them a band aid.

Well of course, but from so far it only seems like nothing much. If the situation were to get worse, then Yes, consulting a parent would be good.
 
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post May 20 2006, 01:08 PM
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^ lol. that's the advice i gave her ... i'm not telling her to run to her parents.
 

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