Death Penalty, is it right or wrong? |
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| *NatiMarie* |
 May 24 2004, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 24 2004, 4:21 PM) After I stage my military coup I will free all the prisoners in the Country and make them serve 3 years in my Grand Imperial Army. So they do have hope of release after a life sentence. *sigh* Sarcasm...I think? Anywhoo, I don't know whether to comment on that, were you trying to be sarcastic because I don't know  ...ok, I don't know, I just don't agree on 'Eye for an Eye' ideology...kind of sucks. So basically what you are all saying is that if you kill a person, you automatically die. What if it's for self defense? There have been trials that have tried a person for self defense because there wasn't enough evidence to save the person from this prosecution...
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| *Kathleen* |
May 24 2004, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE *sigh* Sarcasm...I think? Anywhoo, I don't know whether to comment on that, were you trying to be sarcastic because I don't know ...ok, I don't know, I just don't agree on 'Eye for an Eye' ideology...kind of sucks. So basically what you are all saying is that if you kill a person, you automatically die. What if it's for self defense? There have been trials that have tried a person for self defense because there wasn't enough evidence to save the person from this prosecution... He was joking.  Oh, and they wouldn't get capital punishment for that if it was self-defense. It has to be preplanned to get capital punishment.
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| *NatiMarie* |
May 24 2004, 08:30 PM
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lol, I was sure haha. That's good though. Don't mess with Natalie *angry face* J/k! =)
 hahaOkay let's see...oh no I lost my train of thought...come back! |
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May 25 2004, 12:26 AM
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 Hi! I'm Dani :)  Group: Member Posts: 5,637 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,369 |
well umm i dont realli think there should b a death penalty b cuz i think that pplz who have dun realli bad crimes deserve to rot in jai and suffer instead of die quickly frm da death penalty
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May 25 2004, 05:06 PM
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 Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(dani41790 @ May 25 2004, 12:26 AM) well umm i dont realli think there should b a death penalty b cuz i think that pplz who have dun realli bad crimes deserve to rot in jai and suffer instead of die quickly frm da death penalty But criminals on death row... do not 'die quickly'. The process can take years, decades... |
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May 25 2004, 05:17 PM
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well any contries that are part of the free trade union thingiee, it is SUPPOSED to be illegal, but people still do it anyways...
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May 25 2004, 05:33 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(jewishbabeygirl87 @ May 25 2004, 5:17 PM) well any contries that are part of the free trade union thingiee, it is SUPPOSED to be illegal, but people still do it anyways... Really? I mean about the free trade union making death penalty illegal. |
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May 25 2004, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 25 2004, 5:33 PM) Really? I mean about the free trade union making death penalty illegal. I think she means the UN... The UN declared teh Death Penalty to be against human rights. They didn't actually abolish it though. |
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May 25 2004, 05:55 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 25 2004, 5:48 PM) I think she means the UN... The UN declared teh Death Penalty to be against human rights. They didn't actually abolish it though. OHHH, now that I've heard of before... I was really confused about the free trade union bit. Thanks. |
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May 31 2004, 08:01 PM
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100% against.
I agree with a bunch of people on here; I don't believe that one human has the right to take the life of another. Even if the person is a murderer, killing them only proves that the government is just as low. Lock them up for life- they won't be a threat to society anymore. Really, what are the chances they'll escape? Almost 0%. Also, many of the people who end up getting the death penalty are not sane. They need to be kept in an institution their whole lives; what they need is treatment. Not death. |
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| *Kathleen* |
May 31 2004, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE Lock them up for life- they won't be a threat to society anymore. Really, what are the chances they'll escape? Almost 0%. Actually, if you read the first few pages of this thread, someone actually did state it does happen...there are appeals all the time. Not as many people get the death penalty as you think, you know. QUOTE Also, many of the people who end up getting the death penalty are not sane. They need to be kept in an institution their whole lives; what they need is treatment. Not death. You don't know that they're insane. To get capital punishment, the crime has to be preplanned. If this person was insane, he or she would not be able to plan out a murder. |
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May 31 2004, 09:32 PM
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i think its wrong no matter whut u do just let em stay in jail the death penalty is to much
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May 31 2004, 11:15 PM
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I am 100% against the death penalty. I guess its my belief that us killing the killers would make us equal...except equal to their level. I also believe in forgiveness but not to the extent where we let them roam free again, heck no. Give 'em life imprisonment, spare them from the same actions they committed.
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Jun 5 2004, 12:40 PM
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 dance starrie dance! Group: Member Posts: 205 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 20,294 |
i think that there shouldnt be a death penatly .. i know this sounds stupid.. but like why kill the person right away? they'll feel nothing. you should do to them what they did to other people. let them suffer. make them feel what others felt when he/she did to others. its not fair that he gets a simple death. he/she should experience what they did to others...
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| *Kathleen* |
Jun 5 2004, 01:53 PM
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Um...he wouldn't be living at all...just like his victims...
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Jun 5 2004, 01:56 PM
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Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 31 2004, 8:07 PM) You don't know that they're insane. To get capital punishment, the crime has to be preplanned. If this person was insane, he or she would not be able to plan out a murder. Hitler was insane and he planned quite a few murders... Even if you buy into the revisionist theory that the Holocaust was planned by his underlings, there was still the Night of Long Knives. For those of you equating the death penalty to murder, that's like saying putting people in prison is kidnapping, or imposing fines is robbery. Retalitory force is perfectly just, it's intiative force that is inherently unjust (and in most situations criminal, or should be). |
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| *Kathleen* |
Jun 5 2004, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE Hitler was insane and he planned quite a few murders... Even if you buy into the revisionist theory that the Holocaust was planned by his underlings, there was still the Night of Long Knives. We're not talking about Hitler here...this is the United States...in 2004, mind you.  QUOTE For those of you equating the death penalty to murder Not just any murder...pre-planned murder...besides, this is a more serious crime than kidnapping... |
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Jun 5 2004, 02:10 PM
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Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jun 5 2004, 2:07 PM) We're not talking about Hitler here...this is the United States...in 2004, mind you. Still... I just proved that a crazy person can in fact plan and carry out murders, thus defeating your argument. Even crazy people today. Craziness hasn't changed much. It's like if you say the Earth is really old. If someone brings up evidence showing that the Earth is actually relaly young and you don't address it, you can't just evade by saying "well, the Earth WILL be really old in 60 billion years." |
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| *Kathleen* |
Jun 5 2004, 02:17 PM
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Well, Hitler being crazy is an opinon...is it not?
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Jun 5 2004, 02:20 PM
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Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
Well he would be considered crazy by psychological definitions today.
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| *Kathleen* |
Jun 5 2004, 02:24 PM
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Are there not different types of crazy by psychological definitions?
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Jun 5 2004, 02:44 PM
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 WWMD?! - i am from the age of BM 2 Group: Member Posts: 5,308 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,848 |
it depends on the crime. if a guy went and made a mass murder of like 3000 people, there should be. but, however, you should be able to make the guy suffer for a while. kill him slowly. cause he deserves it, the fricker..
but, if the guy kills one person, i dont think that deserves the death penalty. maybe life sentence. |
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Jun 6 2004, 04:26 PM
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ok i had to do a debate on this for school and i said "the death penalty is wrong because its taking an eye for an eye. sure they might have killed someone but to punish them just throw them into a cell with a six foot, six fat man named bubba to be his wife for life and let God kill him!"
i got props for that |
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| *Kathleen* |
Jun 7 2004, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE ok i had to do a debate on this for school and i said "the death penalty is wrong because its taking an eye for an eye. sure they might have killed someone but to punish them just throw them into a cell with a six foot, six fat man named bubba to be his wife for life and let God kill him!" i got props for that Didn't I just refute this in the last page? QUOTE Lets say person A rapes then murder a little girl, and I want him to die through the death penalty, but I believe so much in peace and not 'an eye for an eye' and let him be jailed. Now, years later, he's paroled and when he gets out he finds some other little girl to rape and kill....
it wouldn't be an eye for an eye any more.. it'll be an eye for two eyes... In this situation then, "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" cannot be applied, because two innocents have been killed. |
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Jun 7 2004, 04:41 PM
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Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."
--Machiavelli |
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