Columbine High School Shooting Massacre, Way back in April 20, 1999 |
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 Apr 4 2006, 03:23 PM
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Suicide is played out, if your going to die take people with you.
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Apr 4 2006, 03:35 PM
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^That's real deep...
 I saw that movie and I remember when it happened. Just plain sad 
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Apr 4 2006, 04:21 PM
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 daughter of sin Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 |
QUOTE(yanners @ Apr 4 2006, 7:22 AM)  ^ That's because the website you got it from, was from the guy - Michael Moore who DIRECTED and PRODUCED Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 911. Anyhow, there's a thread on Bowling for Columbine in the Entertainment section. So... Yes, and guess what - he has back up for everything he says. Perhaps you should read it.. Especially the facts about 9/11 - some of them shocked the hell out of me.. And I know there's another thread, but someone closed it.. so where should I post? Taylor`` |
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Apr 4 2006, 04:51 PM
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There'll be no distance that could hold us back Group: Member Posts: 137 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 388,163 |
I'm not sure if I ever watched Bowling for Columbine. I think I started one time, but never finished... I don't know.
I have seen Fahrenheit 9/11 and some other Moore films. I do believe he occasionally stretches the truth to a degree, but for the most part, he does back everything he says very well. The dirt he can dig up on people amazes me. I'd love to have his job... Heh I remember when that happened rather clearly. Of course, I didn't fully understand because I was only 9 years old, but knowing people got shot in their own place of education immedately installed fear in me. Quite unsettling... not to mention terrible for the people who were close to the victims. I can't imagine what their parents might've gone through.. Wow. |
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Apr 4 2006, 07:31 PM
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really not a big deal kids get shot all the time in the hood, harris and kleibold are f**kin idiots for not blowing up those bombs in the kitchen, then they REALLY woulda been legendary
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Apr 4 2006, 07:36 PM
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i remember when it happened. i was really young. like 7 or 8. my dad was really upset about it so he bought the book "she said yes." i was too young to read it then, but i did read it last year. i made me cry. it actually changed me. and i know ppl say that all the time to be dramatic, but it really did. i began to realize that i could die at any moment. i began to pray a lot more. i'll go over the Nicene Creed in my head and say Hail Marys in class. i really loved that book.
QUOTE really not a big deal kids get shot all the time in the hood, harris and kleibold are f**kin idiots for not blowing up those bombs in the kitchen, then they REALLY woulda been legendary ^i can't believe you just said that. she died because she believed in God. she didn't back down. she knew she was going to die if she said yes, but she said it anyway. |
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Apr 4 2006, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(colleen92 @ Apr 4 2006, 7:36 PM) i can't believe you just said that. she died because she believed in God. she didn't back down. she knew she was going to die if she said yes, but she said it anyway. Why should we feel sorry for her then? She practically commited suicide! That's just real crack head behavior. “I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong.” - - - Bertrand Russell |
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Apr 4 2006, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Feb 2 2006, 7:53 PM) I remember it really well. I was in seventh grade when it happened. There had been a rash of school shootings in the previous months, but nothing like this. I just remember that everyone went crazy about it. Suddenly we weren't learning about fire drills or tornado drills; we were learning how to lock down doors, and where to hide in a classroom to avoid gunfire. We were learning how to signal to SWAT teams that were were in a room, or that there were wounded students with us. We were getting randomly searched for weapons, and pretty much every semi-depressed kid seemed to be a suspect for a major shooting. Teachers were required to lock their doors, except at the beginning and end of classes. I guess the thing I remember most was that things were never quite the same again. Even years later, schools still seemed on edge. Doors weren't required to be locked, backpacks weren't searched, and dark, depressed kids weren't suspected of harboring thoughts of a bloodbath. But even so, it was still dangerous to say something like "I'm so mad I could kill that guy" or make any joke remotely alluding to blowing up the school. I don't think about it much now (partly because I'm not in an elementary or secondary school anymore) but I still have memories of how the massacre at Columbine changed everything. It really did leave a mark all across the US. yeah thats pretty much exactly how it was for me. they even had a fake predator to test us...
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Apr 4 2006, 09:13 PM
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i think you're stupid. Group: Member Posts: 608 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 388,203 |
QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Apr 4 2006, 9:03 PM) Why should we feel sorry for her then? She practically commited suicide! That's just real crack head behavior. “I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong.” - - - Bertrand Russell she didn't commit suicide. she was willing to die for what she believed in. she loved God that much. i respect her because, i love God and i would like to think that i would die for him, but i think i would freak. i respect her because she didn't lie even though she knew it would cost her life. |
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Apr 4 2006, 09:23 PM
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in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
QUOTE(colleen92 @ Apr 4 2006, 9:13 PM) she didn't commit suicide. she was willing to die for what she believed in. she loved God that much. i respect her because, i love God and i would like to think that i would die for him, but i think i would freak. i respect her because she didn't lie even though she knew it would cost her life. It's like, lie or get shot in the face? Sorry, but I think I would rather lie. Also, do you honestly think God is so egotistical and insane that he would rather have you shot in the face? Wait, yeah. You're probably right. I'm sure God was very pleased. 
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Apr 4 2006, 09:28 PM
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i think you're stupid. Group: Member Posts: 608 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 388,203 |
QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Apr 4 2006, 10:23 PM) It's like, lie or get shot in the face? Sorry, but I think I would rather lie. Also, do you honestly think God is so egotistical and insane that he would rather have you shot in the face? Wait, yeah. You're probably right. I'm sure God was very pleased. how did even get from the things that i've said that i think God is egotistical and insane? that's bull. and are you honestly telling me that you think she died for nothing? if she died for nothing why would anyone have made such a big deal about it in the first place? answer me that. |
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Apr 4 2006, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(sillakilla220 @ Apr 4 2006, 5:31 PM) really not a big deal kids get shot all the time in the hood, harris and kleibold are f**kin idiots for not blowing up those bombs in the kitchen, then they REALLY woulda been legendary Yeah but their bitch asses don't rack up big numbers. All they do is shoot, run/drive away. You don't see that in the hood, do you. |
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Apr 4 2006, 10:26 PM
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Man.. I remember it, as well. I was in seventh grade and it was my first year in a new school. I had just started going to a new church with a friend of mine on Wednesday nights and I was brainwashed (pardon my choice of words) into being terrified of the same thing happening to me. I actually quite liked Bowling for Columbine. I know that every year on 4/20 from then on in school we had a moment of silence at.. 9:02, was it?
Bit of useless information, April 20th is my engagement anniversary. |
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Apr 5 2006, 06:24 AM
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in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
QUOTE(colleen92 @ Apr 4 2006, 9:28 PM) how did even get from the things that i've said that i think God is egotistical and insane? that's bull. and are you honestly telling me that you think she died for nothing? if she died for nothing why would anyone have made such a big deal about it in the first place? answer me that. Try to go back and read the posts. You might be able to catch on. I'm suggesting that any kind of decent God would have rather had her lie and save her life than die by uttering his name. I'm saying any God that would rather have her shot in the face would be sick, twisted, egotistical, and insane. Also, yes. I think she clearly died for nothing. It's unfortunate she was made to feel so guilty in respect to fairy tale characters. People make big deals out of all sorts of things, that doesn't ever mean anything. This happens to be one of those things. It's like an argument from popularity. Heck, the real fuss and "big deal" being made out of this should be an open dialouge on how easily she could have saved her life as opposed to praising her for doing something so foolish. If we could look at this more seriously, practically, and sensibly, then maybe we can cut down on all that silly martyrdom. Save a few lives. I mean, I hate to apologize for rather having the girl alive than dead. I guess, if you truly like her better that way. But, I guess that would be taboo to say she died for nothing. So I better not say it, huh?  Popular sure doesn't mean right. 
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Apr 5 2006, 08:25 AM
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The story that the girl died because she professed her belief in God is a nice story, but it's not true, by all witness accounts.[1] (Some, however, do attribute the exchange to a girl who, in fact, survived—which can bring up a whole new element in this discussion, it would seem, but that's tangential to the point at hand.)
Of course, it seems dishonorable to her memory, at least in this context, to discuss the irrationality of her actions (assuming the story is true, which it is not) and whether or not she deserved to die because of her assertions. |
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Apr 5 2006, 09:45 AM
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hey thats my birthday... i turned 8 that day.
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Apr 5 2006, 02:21 PM
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i think you're stupid. Group: Member Posts: 608 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 388,203 |
QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Apr 5 2006, 7:24 AM) Try to go back and read the posts. You might be able to catch on. I'm suggesting that any kind of decent God would have rather had her lie and save her life than die by uttering his name. I'm saying any God that would rather have her shot in the face would be sick, twisted, egotistical, and insane. Also, yes. I think she clearly died for nothing. It's unfortunate she was made to feel so guilty in respect to fairy tale characters. People make big deals out of all sorts of things, that doesn't ever mean anything. This happens to be one of those things. It's like an argument from popularity. Heck, the real fuss and "big deal" being made out of this should be an open dialouge on how easily she could have saved her life as opposed to praising her for doing something so foolish. If we could look at this more seriously, practically, and sensibly, then maybe we can cut down on all that silly martyrdom. Save a few lives. I mean, I hate to apologize for rather having the girl alive than dead. I guess, if you truly like her better that way. But, I guess that would be taboo to say she died for nothing. So I better not say it, huh? Popular sure doesn't mean right. How can you call martrydom foolish? It takes so much wisdom to be able to choose what's more important: your soul or your life. Your soul lasts forever; your life doesn't. She knew she'd go to Heaven, so she didn't hesitate. She knew it'd be ok. How can you call someone that made that kind of choice foolish? They had to make a harder choice than you and I will probably ever have to make. I wouldn't second guess someone like that. I hate to apologize for rather having her be proud of her beliefs. I'd much rather have had her cower...  I don't see how you can't have the least bit of respect for her.I'm not saying you can't say she died for nothing, I'm saying I can't believe you actually did. |
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Apr 7 2006, 01:44 PM
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in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
Believe it now motha f**ker!
Tonto to jump on it! Jump on it! Jump on it! Kimosabi jump on it! Jump on it! Jump on it! Coaster jump on it! Jump on it! Jump on it! Apache jump on it! Jump on it! Jump on it! Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
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Apr 7 2006, 01:49 PM
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Ok...She died for her beliefs, that IS a good thing, nobody should question it. If you won't die for your beliefs (if you have one), that's your shit...now leave the dead girl's shit alone.
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Apr 7 2006, 01:53 PM
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in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
QUOTE(Weird addiction @ Apr 7 2006, 1:49 PM) Ok...She died for her beliefs, that IS a good thing, nobody should question it. If you won't die for your beliefs (if you have one), that's your shit...now leave the dead girl's shit alone. You're so right! Dieing for your beliefs is always a good thing and no one should ever ever question it! I guess she didn't even die the way we have been told for so many years. It's just a nice, sweet, and "uplifting" urban legend. She said nothing.  Ahunga Ahunga Ahunga! [Edit; 4/7/2006 1:57PM: At this point I don't care anymore. If you havn't noticed. I'm awfully sleep deprived and these comments are making me sick. So, instead of taking them seriously, I'm making it a huge joke. At what exspense? Eh. And the real irony: In the time I explained myself here, I could have taken this more seriously at this point and avoided the problem altogether. Whatever, that's just what I believe. I guess I'll go die for it now. Be proud!] |
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Apr 7 2006, 01:55 PM
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...damn...just damn. Soooo...
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Apr 7 2006, 02:53 PM
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What I don't get is how this argument started (I only read up to the post after sillakilla's). This girl quoted Sillakilla saying how harry and kleibod were idiots for not bombing the cafeteria and all of a sudden she says, "That girl died for her beliefs"...what the hell?
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Apr 7 2006, 03:44 PM
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^^^what she said. Also, I have lots of respect for the two shooters. Not only did they plan an efficient attack they executed it smoothly (except for the bombs). It also took alot of balls to do what they did. I don't want people to think I'm glad people got killed, but those kids showed some balls and brains to do that.
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Apr 7 2006, 06:30 PM
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^I would've agreed with you but they commited suicide. If they didn't kill themselves after the whole shiit then I would consider them brave enough to go to jail.
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Apr 7 2006, 07:04 PM
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 The Russian™ Group: Member Posts: 212 Joined: May 2005 Member No: 136,554 |
Oh my gosh.. I remember this... it happened to me when I was in 5th grade, everybody's backpacks were searched. And everyone was incredibly paranoid.
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