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post Sep 26 2004, 07:08 PM
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im catholic and a couple weeks ago at mass the deacon supposedly told all women who were using contraception/birth control not to recieve communion. i think that is going way to far as it is not killing babies because theyre not being concieved to begin with, especially as there is a chance of becoming pregnant even when youre using it.

what is your opinion on it? is using contraception/birth control alright or not?
 
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post Oct 11 2004, 11:16 PM
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birth control pills are also for other things, like someone said. Some people take themm to reduce their periods. The only thing I find wrong with it is that there are side affections :/
 
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post Oct 26 2004, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(my_papaya @ Sep 26 2004, 7:08 PM)
im catholic and a couple weeks ago at mass the deacon supposedly told all women who were using contraception/birth control not to recieve communion. i think that is going way to far as it is not killing babies because theyre not being concieved to begin with, especially as there is a chance of becoming pregnant even when youre using it.

what is your opinion on it? is using contraception/birth control alright or not?

Not using birth control is part of the Catholic faith. I think that people are Catholic and can be really strict with the morals of the teachings until something like this comes along, and they "bend the rules" to fit their own desires.

I am atheist.
 
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post Oct 26 2004, 03:41 PM
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i think it's fine. of course, i'm not religious. but whatever. do what you want. you don't want a kid, then don't have it.

i'm for abortion too. *shrug*
 
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post Oct 26 2004, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(my_papaya @ Sep 26 2004, 7:08 PM)
im catholic and a couple weeks ago at mass the deacon supposedly told all women who were using contraception/birth control not to recieve communion. i think that is going way to far as it is not killing babies because theyre not being concieved to begin with, especially as there is a chance of becoming pregnant even when youre using it.

what is your opinion on it? is using contraception/birth control alright or not?

I'm pretty sure the American Bishops Council has declared that you shouldn't deny baptised Catholics communion under any circumstances...
 
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post Oct 28 2004, 10:58 AM
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i think using contraception is not bad,it helps!
 
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post Mar 23 2006, 10:40 PM
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Yeah, I was raised Catholic and I am using birth control.

I have no problem with women using birth control, I mean, it's human nature to want to satisfy sexual urges.

I don't see why people keep wanting to bring new people in this world when there are already children who need taking care of.
 
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post Mar 29 2006, 10:35 AM
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I think that if a woman wants to protect her self then there is no problem. Not only does contraception/birth control help against babies but alsocondoms protaect women and men from stds. Is it wrong if you don't want to get an std. Sometimes i think its easier not to have sex at all
 
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post Mar 29 2006, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(acid_high @ Mar 29 2006, 10:35 AM) *
I think that if a woman wants to protect her self then there is no problem. Not only does contraception/birth control help against babies but alsocondoms protaect women and men from stds. Is it wrong if you don't want to get an std. Sometimes i think its easier not to have sex at all

Yeah, but I don't think that's really the issue. The issue is that people are against any form of contraception because it stops the end-product of what sex is SUPPOSED to be for - children.
 
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post Mar 29 2006, 01:13 PM
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about what kyro said if they are 14.....
i dont think it should matter
doctors are just idiots as smart as they may sopund they are really money hungry idiots
all they care about is if u actually pay for the product not if the product works
and as for religous people i guess you can think what you want but me i think its just doctors to get the last say and stuff
 
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post Mar 29 2006, 04:05 PM
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Birth control/contraception is perfectly fine with me. Having sex isnt just about concieving a baby (its definately a big reason though). It's for pleasure and if the two people having sex are in a relationship it brings them closer together.

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I think that if a woman wants to protect her self then there is no problem. Not only does contraception/birth control help against babies but alsocondoms protaect women and men from stds. Is it wrong if you don't want to get an std. Sometimes i think its easier not to have sex at all


It protects but not completely. You could still get an STD but it's a smaller percentage than if you didnt use protection at all.
 
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post Mar 30 2006, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(x Ragazza @ Mar 23 2006, 10:40 PM) *
Yeah, I was raised Catholic and I am using birth control.

I have no problem with women using birth control, I mean, it's human nature to want to satisfy sexual urges.

I don't see why people keep wanting to bring new people in this world when there are already children who need taking care of.


From the Catholic Catechism

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The regulation of births represents one of the aspects of responsible fatherhood and motherhood. Legitimate intentions on the part of the spouses do not justify recourse to morally unacceptable means (for example, direct sterilization or contraception).


CCC 2399

I'm pretty sure that the use of contraceptives is a mortal sin (not entirely sure, so please do some research). Those who have commited mortal sin with full knowledge and consent should not receive Holy Communion.
 
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post Mar 30 2006, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 30 2006, 7:54 PM) *
I'm pretty sure that the use of contraceptives is a mortal sin (not entirely sure, so please do some research). Those who have commited mortal sin with full knowledge and consent should not receive Holy Communion.

Yeah, but, it is still a sin if you aren't having sex? Cause I'm not..

I only started using it to clear up my acne because nothing else worked for me. I think it's unfair to call me a sinner when I was using it for different reasons.

And I know. I should stop taking communion. I feel guilty whenever I do. I don't even know if I believe in any god, so I don't deserve to take it.
 
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post Mar 30 2006, 09:12 PM
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Yeah, but, it is still a sin if you aren't having sex? Cause I'm not..

And I know. I should stop taking communion. I feel guilty whenever I do. I don't even know if I believe in any god, so I don't deserve to take it.


I'm confused. Why would you need birth control if you're not having sex? I think some people use it for acne. If it's for that purpose, I don't think it's a mortal sin, since you're not trying to impede with the creation of new life.
 
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 30 2006, 8:12 PM) *
I'm confused. Why would you need birth control if you're not having sex?

Sorry, I edited my post after you quoted me. ^
 
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post Apr 2 2006, 02:23 PM
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With the whole Catholic perspective, you have to realize this religion was formed so many years ago. They believed that sperm were little children, which also explains why men aren't allowed to masterbate either.

I personally believe that it's not okay to have sex with like 10 different people. If you believe someone you are with is going to be your husband or wife, go for it. But don't go have sex with the neighborhood hottie (lol). So use contraception, get tested for an STD, and use birth control if necessary.
 
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post Apr 8 2006, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(tweeak @ Sep 26 2004, 8:08 PM) *
im catholic and a couple weeks ago at mass the deacon supposedly told all women who were using contraception/birth control not to recieve communion. i think that is going way to far as it is not killing babies because theyre not being concieved to begin with, especially as there is a chance of becoming pregnant even when youre using it.

what is your opinion on it? is using contraception/birth control alright or not?


Tottaly OK. I mean its like you said its really not a matter of "abortion" so your not really sinning. UNLESS your not married but thats a whole other thread wink.gif Moving on i think thats kind of disrespectful on a part of the deacon. _unsure.gif Then again i dont enjoy mass very much.....yawn.gif
 
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QUOTE(Yemmerz @ Apr 2 2006, 3:23 PM) *
With the whole Catholic perspective, you have to realize this religion was formed so many years ago. They believed that sperm were little children, which also explains why men aren't allowed to masterbate either.


This is a misunderstanding. I don't know if Catholics believed that sperm were little children, but they don't believe so now. However, scientists in the past have believed that cold air causes disease, among other things. Is this to say we are not to trust science anymore?

Also, this doesn't explain why men are not allowed to masturbate. This is the Catholic teaching on masturbation:

CCC 2352

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By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."138 "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."



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Tottaly OK. I mean its like you said its really not a matter of "abortion" so your not really sinning. UNLESS your not married but thats a whole other thread wink.gif Moving on i think thats kind of disrespectful on a part of the deacon. unsure.gif Then again i dont enjoy mass very much.....yawn.gif


It is still against Catholic teaching.

CCC 2370

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Periodic continence, that is, the methods of birth regulation based on self-observation and the use of infertile periods, is in conformity with the objective criteria of morality. These methods respect the bodies of the spouses, encourage tenderness between them, and favor the education of an authentic freedom. In contrast, "every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible" is intrinsically evil:

Thus the innate language that expresses the total reciprocal self-giving of husband and wife is overlaid, through contraception, by an objectively contradictory language, namely, that of not giving oneself totally to the other. This leads not only to a positive refusal to be open to life but also to a falsification of the inner truth of conjugal love, which is called upon to give itself in personal totality. . . . The difference, both anthropological and moral, between contraception and recourse to the rhythm of the cycle . . . involves in the final analysis two irreconcilable concepts of the human person and of human sexuality.
 

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