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Environment vs. Economy
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post May 20 2004, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 20 2004, 7:28 PM)
Economically, the definition of public good is a "commons" -- something that you can take from freely. That's not what the economy is.

Everyone participates in the economy. It belongs to everyone.

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post May 20 2004, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 20 2004, 7:41 PM)
Everyone participates in the economy. It belongs to everyone.

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Where do you live, Communismland?

In a capitalist society, the economy is private. ALL INDIVIDUALS each on their own PART of the economy. No one owns it as a whole.
 
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post May 20 2004, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 20 2004, 7:43 PM)
Where do you live, Communismland?

In a capitalist society, the economy is private. ALL INDIVIDUALS each on their own PART of the economy. No one owns it as a whole.

And where do you live? whistling.gif

Who would restricts you into participating in the economy? Who's this private owner?

Edit::No one can restrict a person from being a buyer or a seller because the economy is for public use.

Owning a market, DOES NOT mean you own an economy.

Edit:: Remember that our economy is not a pure capitalist either.
 
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post May 22 2004, 07:24 AM
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QUOTE(xjjajeengx @ May 13 2004, 7:13 PM)
Well, I'm not a outdoor kind of person, but i feel that we already have so much polution and crap because of economy, industry, etc... I think enviornment should be first. I mean, what if the human race dies because of a lack of good enviornment? True, economy effects mankind greatly, and the system is awesome and yea... But, too many people dont go out these days and i think that its partly the economy to blame for this because of all the new technology and stuff coming out. Also, economy goes down but it can always go back up. As for enviornment, once you ruin it, it takes so long and so much hard work to make it fresh and clean again. Also, running down trees for the economy really has an impact on our lives because sooner or later, it will cause the temperatures to rise and all that other junk that comes along with bad enviornment. This is only my opinion tho.

^^ wow im scared to think of what kathleen is going to say. I've noticed that she is like a crazy debater who has her facts straight. laugh.gif

i agree with u, grace... im not that outdoor kind of girl... i think environment shud be first like wat grace said.. it's so slow to get all environment back to its original place... and for like economoy.. as once u lose it u can get it back by jus rebuilding it with other many tools... in environment there are no tools to make something up fast.
 
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post May 22 2004, 02:27 PM
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i agree with u, grace... im not that outdoor kind of girl... i think environment shud be first like wat grace said.. it's so slow to get all environment back to its original place... and for like economoy.. as once u lose it u can get it back by jus rebuilding it with other many tools... in environment there are no tools to make something up fast.

So considering the half a trillion dollar deficit we currently have, you suggest FURTHER spending on the environment and adding to that deficit?
 
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post May 22 2004, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 20 2004, 7:46 PM)
And where do you live? whistling.gif

Who would restricts you into participating in the economy? Who's this private owner?

Edit::No one can restrict a person from being a buyer or a seller because the economy is for public use.

Owning a market, DOES NOT mean you own an economy.

Edit:: Remember that our economy is not a pure capitalist either.

Everyone owns PART of the economy. If I buy up a stock exchange, I can restrict you from trading on it--thus I restricted your participation in my part of the economy.

The economy is NOT a public good. And thank God it isn't.
 
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post May 22 2004, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 22 2004, 4:28 PM)
Everyone owns PART of the economy. If I buy up a stock exchange, I can restrict you from trading on it--thus I restricted your participation in my part of the economy.

The economy is NOT a public good. And thank God it isn't.

Actually, you buy stock, you would own part of that stock market. Not the economy of stock, because there's no such thing.
 
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post May 22 2004, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 22 2004, 4:30 PM)
Actually, you buy stock, you would own part of that stock market. Not the economy of stock, because there's no such thing.

The economy is ALL goods produced, and consumed in a given geographic area. I can control part of it. If I control the supply of say, cheap pens, then I can restrict your consumption of them--thus restricting your participation in the economy.

The market IS the economy.
 
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post May 22 2004, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 22 2004, 4:32 PM)
The economy is ALL goods produced, and consumed in a given geographic area. I can control part of it. If I control the supply of say, cheap pens, then I can restrict your consumption of them--thus restricting your participation in the economy.

The market IS the economy.

Markets make up an economy. Economy is a word that describes the transactions of markets, managment of resources... etc, and does not mean markets alone.
 

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