gay marriages, UHHHH!! Options

[WeeeItsPanda]

So many people think homosexuals shouldn't be able to get married... But it's really not fair if you think about it. I mean, so many straight people (not all) take marriage for granted, and some even take advantage of it. So many straight couples are getting divorces these days - almost every one of my friends parents are divorced. I think that homosexuals wouldn't take as much advantage of having the freedom to get married because they are accustomed to not being able to get married anyways... So if and when they were able to get married, it really be true? You know?

And the constitution does say that every person has unaliable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and only under certain circumstances could that be taken away from them (As in, serious crime - meaning murder. Homosexuality exluded for you biggots out there) After all, America is supposed to be the land of the free... Right? I don't think that America is giving off that vibe much anymore.

And in case you were wondering, I myself am a lesbian. Damn proud of it too.

You should really check this picture out. It proves a good point.

http://www.deviantart.com/view/4705832/

[*NatiMarie*]

I frankly don't care. I mean I'm not with it, but I'm not against it. As long as it doesn't affect me in any way, go for it then. I mean, it's not like these gay marriages are going to kill me because I'm not going to be involved with them in any way. I am Catholic and it's wrong in the bible, but it doesn't affect me. I'm not involved in it, I'm not going to live my whole life protesting it and ruining their lives by being opposed to it. I'm just going to live my own life my own way, it's their business so I'm not going to intrude in it. Whoohoo, dang I'm getting a zit...

[*kryogenix*]

Kryo..But who says that definition is the correct one?

the billions of people who have married under that definition. the people who created the concept of marriage. and the US government.

[juliar]

ok. if a homosexual wanted to start shooting everyone, should we give them the right to do it?


it affects society because it will affect the birthrate. also, it does not fit the definition of marriage, union between a man and woman. breaking the law does affect society.

A homosexual doesn't have more rights than us. They should just have the same rights as us and the same restrictions as us.

[*kryogenix*]

A homosexual doesn't have more rights than us. They should just have the same rights as us and the same restrictions as us.

which is why they shouldn't be allowed to circumvent the law.

[juliar]

which is why they shouldn't be allowed to circumvent the law.

Bu tthey have our rights. Meaning they should have the right to marry. And the law should change because that law is shaky and under debate. So it can change or not change.

[Spirited Away]

Bu tthey have our rights. Meaning they should have the right to marry. And the law should change because that law is shaky and under debate. So it can change or not change.

They don't have our rights, but that's why they're fighting for it. I'm against gay marriages, but I'm not against gay people as they do not have a choice in their sexual orientations.

And to those who are saying that it doesn't have anything to do with us, it actually does because it affects society as a whole. Most importantly, it will affect children.

[*tweeak*]

while it is against my religon and sinful to me, stopping them from marrying is not going to stop them from doing what they want so we should not oppose it, i think

[F_L_I_P]

waoh this topic still open?!? i think its wrong but i think its ok if two people of the same sex likes each other.

[cornflakes]

Lemme guess, it is concerning your religion or think gay couples are morally wrong.

[T00000]

They don't have our rights, but that's why they're fighting for it. I'm against gay marriages, but I'm not against gay people as they do not have a choice in their sexual orientations.

And to those who are saying that it doesn't have anything to do with us, it actually does because it affects society as a whole. Most importantly, it will affect children.

i agree with you!! but you know, i feel it's right that gays should at least be offered some form of legal agreement that gives them the same benefits of being married- but not actually calling them husband and wife (or what...? haha). because i think that marriage is a really sacred thing, and if a gay marries another gay i mean it sort of makes it a joke... you know? but i think a legal agreement should be allowed. because if you love someone, and you live in the same house, and one of them is supporting you and then he dies, if you were gay you'd need some insurance money you know. plus all the tax benefits... yeah. just not actual MARRIAGE.

[WildGriffin]

Marriage is not sacred anymore.

When half the people in America swear to live together under god for the rest of their lives, then get divorced 3 years later...marriage has lost its sacradness.

Gay people love just as much as any man+women combo could, maybe even more so, so why can't they get married? Gay people arn't all gay butt sex and designing, their's real emotion there somewhere...and here you guys are telling them that they arn't good enuff to have some shi*ty ceremony that doesn't even matter that much these days. Let em have it.

[T00000]

Marriage is not sacred anymore.

When half the people in America swear to live together under god for the rest of their lives, then get divorced 3 years later...marriage has lost its sacradness.

Gay people love just as much as any man+women combo could, maybe even more so, so why can't they get married? Gay people arn't all gay butt sex and designing, their's real emotion there somewhere...and here you guys are telling them that they arn't good enuff to have some shi*ty ceremony that doesn't even matter that much these days. Let em have it.

marriage is still sacred, i understand tha many people get divorces and such, and that's so not cool, but the idea should still remain sacred.

also, i' not saying gays can't have the same legal rights as married couples, but marriage is defined by the websters new world college dictionary as
"uniting with a woman as her husband or with a man as his wife." I am against gays marrying but i am not against them having some sort of ceremony that gives them the same legal rights as married couples. i don't see how objectable that is... it's just calling it something different besides being married. because it IS different.


it's all good though, my 7th and 8th grade math teacher got married to her girlfriend haha. it was weirdddd. we always thought she was a lesbian, and then two years after we were out of middle school, multnomah county in portland started granting marriage licenses, and i guess she got one. ahhh damn, ms. currier. i wonder what her last name is now...

[WildGriffin]

also, i' not saying gays can't have the same legal rights as married couples, but marriage is defined by the websters new world college dictionary as
"uniting with a woman as her husband or with a man as his wife." I am against gays marrying but i am not against them having some sort of ceremony that gives them the same legal rights as married couples. i don't see how objectable that is... it's just calling it something different besides being married. because it IS different.

Love is love, there's no difference in that. They want to share their love the same way there parents did, why deny them that? Society tells us that marriage should be a man and women sacred event, society also unintentionally tells us that no one takes anything religious too seriously these days, espicially marriages. It should be sacred, but it isnt. But wait, what's so unsacred about two people in love of the same sex marrying? Even if marriage was somehow a sacred notion, homosexuals shouldn't be blamed for what makes it unsacred.

And maybe, just maybe, the webster's dictionary updates it's definitions every now and then.

[T00000]

Love is love, there's no difference in that. They want to share their love the same way there parents did, why deny them that? Society tells us that marriage should be a man and women sacred event, society also unintentionally tells us that no one takes anything religious too seriously these days, espicially marriages. It should be sacred, but it isnt. But wait, what's so unsacred about two people in love of the same sex marrying? Even if marriage was somehow a sacred notion, homosexuals shouldn't be blamed for what makes it unsacred.

And maybe, just maybe, the webster's dictionary updates it's definitions every now and then.

their parents were man and wife. i think there should be a difference between marriage between a man and a wife and a man and a man or a woman and a woman, like i said. it should be called something else. seriously. i'm not saying the same rights won't be allowed, but it shouldn't be called Marriage, because if a child is brought up confused as to what a marriage is, it will be confused as to what sex he is supposed to be attracted to. i know it's rude or whatever to say that, but when you're 4, you're not ATTRACTED to the neighbor boy you kissed, you're just experimenting. and the only reason why you kissed a boy is because society told you that you're supposed to. kids don't have enough hormones at the age of 4 to be attracted to whatever really allures them, so it will just confuse them.

[strice]

i'm with griff, marriage has really lost much of its importance. reality tv isn't helping a thing with the marriage shows and stupid crap like that. I'm for gay marriage, probably because i'm southern californian and i'm not religious.

"[gays] should be able to marry. why shouldn't they be as miserable as the rest of us?" -DA McCoy from law and order.

[T00000]

actually you know i changed my mind. . haha i feel stupid, but i used to be for it, and i changed my mind to against, but you know... it seems as if civil unions don't make them happy, so i'm all for just making them happy. i thought that if civil unions made them happy, that would be good, but apparently it doesnt. so yeah, i'm for gay marriage because it's what they want..


haha sorry... i was watching MTV....

[WildGriffin]

actually you know i changed my mind.

Oh snap (does anyone say that anymore), a debate actually succeeded in changing someone's mind on something. Meh.

[Spirited Away]

I already brought this up but no one answered, so here goes:

If gays are allowed to marry legally, then what's wrong with incest marriages? They are a group of people who love each other just like gays and straight people. Shouldn't they deserve the chance to marry, too? Why are homosexuals any more special than other groups?

No, I'm not into incest, please do not misunderstand, or even think of it as a joke. The point is, if one group is allowed to marry, why shouldn't the others be allowed to do the same?

I'm arguing against gay marriages btw.

[strice]

marriage to anybody. in denmark you can marry yourself, its not a big deal.

[T00000]

I already brought this up but no one answered, so here goes:

If gays are allowed to marry legally, then what's wrong with incest marriages? They are a group of people who love each other just like gays and straight people. Shouldn't they deserve the chance to marry, too? Why are homosexuals any more special than other groups?

No, I'm not into incest, please do not misunderstand, or even think of it as a joke. The point is, if one group is allowed to marry, why shouldn't the others be allowed to do the same?

I'm arguing against gay marriages btw.

that's true, but two gays can't produce a kid. if a sister and a brother married each other and created a child, that would be inbreeding, and it's illegal because the baby gets sick and they start reproducing and the entire country becomes weak. yeahh. so i mean, there is a difference.

Oh snap (does anyone say that anymore), a debate actually succeeded in changing someone's mind on something. Meh.

by the way, the debate didn't change my mind, i was watching MTV and i saw how passionate they were.

[juliar]

marriage to anybody. in denmark you can marry yourself, its not a big deal.

Ya. But this is America we're talking about here.

[cornflakes]

America is supposed to be progressive...
Gay marriage is a great thing, people are getting religion involved and that is wrong.

[Spirited Away]

that's true, but two gays can't produce a kid. if a sister and a brother married each other and created a child, that would be inbreeding, and it's illegal because the baby gets sick and they start reproducing and the entire country becomes weak. yeahh. so i mean, there is a difference.

Okay then, what if these incest couples do not want to have kids at all, because they do not want their kids to suffer. Lets say that all they want to do is consumate their love and be acknowledge legally as man and wife.

I know this is weird, but to be fair, we must consider all sides.

[juliar]

Okay then, what if these incest couples do not want to have kids at all, because they do not want their kids to suffer. Lets say that all they want to do is consumate their love and be acknowledge legally as man and wife.

I know this is weird, but to be fair, we must consider all sides.

Well then that wouldnt affect society at all. If two gays dont want to have kids like the incest couple, it wouldnt affect society either...