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 May 20 2004, 11:38 PM
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 The Return of Sathington Willoughby.  Group: Member Posts: 313 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,724  |
If i'm drafted i'm going to prison. f*ck the war, i'm not going to kill anybody for oil.
"war is old men talking and young men dying." |
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May 20 2004, 11:45 PM
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Whats the prison sentence for refusing a draft?
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May 20 2004, 11:52 PM
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The Return of Sathington Willoughby. Group: Member Posts: 313 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,724 |
2-3 years, normally.
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May 20 2004, 11:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,795 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,421 |
Hm.. maybe I'd go and study abroad.. like at Oxford, or Cambridge, hehe
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May 21 2004, 12:03 AM
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The Return of Sathington Willoughby. Group: Member Posts: 313 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,724 |
vote you bastards!
unfortunately we can't escape to canada anymore. i'll try asia, hopefully i'll get away. |
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May 21 2004, 12:06 AM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,795 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,421 |
QUOTE vote you bastards! that kind of language wont get ppl to vote... alright i just voted, now can you vote on my post in "humor" lol (spam i know, sorrie) hm.. why not canada anymore? |
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May 21 2004, 12:09 AM
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The Return of Sathington Willoughby. Group: Member Posts: 313 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,724 |
according to my friend whose father is a lawyer say sthat they made a deal that they could draft americans in canada. they obviously learned after vietnam.
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May 21 2004, 12:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,795 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,421 |
blech
 i'm not caught up on politics at all.. how realistic is this draft? can you fill me in on the details? |
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| *kryogenix* |
May 21 2004, 05:50 AM
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QUOTE(strice @ May 20 2004, 11:38 PM) If i'm drafted i'm going to prison. f*ck the war, i'm not going to kill anybody for oil. "war is old men talking and young men dying." umm, are you talking about a draft for the Iraq war or draft in general? and we're not killing people for oil. if i was drafted, i would go. |
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May 21 2004, 05:55 AM
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 Mr.Politicly Incorrect Group: Member Posts: 579 Joined: Sep 2005 Member No: 8,405 |
IF i was drafted i would go...but after Nam..the draft was outlawed unless it is in the case of another major world war.... but either way....if i was i would fight...not only because i will defend my country...but also because my grandfather was in WW2 and the Korean war....i will also fight if need be... and then there is the fun part of being given guns and explosives and told to go have fun...that is the great part.....
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May 21 2004, 05:55 AM
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No way am I going to war.
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May 21 2004, 07:44 AM
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 Wow it's been a long time!! Group: Member Posts: 1,672 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,954 |
if my boyfriend got drafted i'd cry and i would rather have him in prison where his safety is guarunteed than at a war, where he'd be murdering people and risking his life.
evanio dying would be a sad, sad story and that won't happen! or i'll commit suicide |
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May 21 2004, 11:16 AM
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I'm against war and all that, but if you live in a country....and get drafted..take a wild guess what the right thing to do would be.
Getting drafted doesn't mean you have to kill, I'd prolly become a medic or something. People died for your "freedom" and such, time to repay the debt. |
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May 21 2004, 12:37 PM
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i would go to war
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May 21 2004, 01:01 PM
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Since the 80s they have not sent a person to prison. Don't worry about it.
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| *Kathleen* |
May 21 2004, 04:22 PM
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I would definitely fight for my country...I've lived all these years already in a great country, and I've never been able to pay them back - why not do that with this?
Also, it is quite unrealistic, as everyone has said previously. |
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May 21 2004, 06:03 PM
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 i'm too cool 4 school Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 |
You sure would NOT see me fighting. I would be in Nigeria if they were drafting me but that would only happen if ALL the men were gone and then the older women before me and then i was born in July so i'd have a long time to wait to be drafted
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May 21 2004, 07:13 PM
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Mr.Politicly Incorrect Group: Member Posts: 579 Joined: Sep 2005 Member No: 8,405 |
I find it interestin that although many people are very patriotic and say that they would do nething for they country but when it comes time to prove that you will many would rather run from it.....
"Speak Softly..Carry a big stick" ~ Teddy Roosevelt Prove what u say or dont say it...and defend what u say cuz if you arent goin to y should our army defend it for you.... "I may not agree with what you have to say.....but i will die defending your right to say it" |
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May 21 2004, 07:19 PM
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The Return of Sathington Willoughby. Group: Member Posts: 313 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,724 |
heres the article. and if i really had to join the military i'd be a medic. it sa gruesome job, but it has to be done.
i dunno who said this quote but its good. "People always talk about fighting for their country but never dying for it." |
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May 22 2004, 06:47 AM
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 i'm susan Group: Official Member Posts: 13,875 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,029 |
QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 21 2004, 2:22 PM) I would definitely fight for my country...I've lived all these years already in a great country, and I've never been able to pay them back - why not do that with this? Also, it is quite unrealistic, as everyone has said previously. nooo kathleen !! i dont want u to get killed in the war !! well thats good that u got the pride to ur side. n_n hmm... im afraid to go to a war...oh btw they kill ppls to get oil? hahaha nuh uh |
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May 22 2004, 11:17 AM
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neither, ill go 2 canada
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May 22 2004, 04:19 PM
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 Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
QUOTE(strice @ May 20 2004, 11:38 PM) If i'm drafted i'm going to prison. f*ck the war, i'm not going to kill anybody for oil. "war is old men talking and young men dying." Okay, let's see: Most Democrats oppose the draft because they see it as war-mongering. Most Republicans oppose the draft because they see it as leftist social-engineering and big government meddling. That doesn't leave a whole lot of a base for political support. There's only two "mainstream" groups of draft supporters: Communists, who think that if we draft everyone there will somehow be less war, because the rich will have to fight too. Radical Neo-Cons, who think that people are property of the state. If I were dictator, I would expel both of the aforementioned group to Canada. If the draft does pass in Congress, it will be murdered in the Supreme Court on 5th and 13th Amendment Basises. The Draft hasn't been upheld in a court of law since 1917. In 80 years, alot of our attitudes towards things like the draft have changed. EDIT: So to answer the question: If I were drafted, I would get a bunch of my ridiculously rich friends and their well-connected families together, hire a team of fat-ass Harvard lawyers, take the case to the Supreme Court, argue that it is Involuntary Servitude (which, by the way, it is), create a huge lobby among young Americans, get Congressman Ron Paul (TX-R) to do a massive filibuster in Congress, have massive public demonstrations partially funded by the US Libertarian Party and their strongly anti-war Aaron Russo, win the case on a 6-3 vote (All judges voting in favor of abolishing except Sandra Day O'Connor, Clarence Thomas, and Anthony Scalia), and then get teh draft abolished forever. It would be the most patriotic thing to do. We would be ridding America of the last vestige of the Specter of Slavery, and creating a more free society on line with what our Founders were thinking of. It is NOT patriotic to go to a war and by doing so submit to a slave system. If you are a real patriot, you would want to uphold the law of the land, and that is the Constitution. IT says clearly: "NO INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE". And also: "NO MAN SHALL BE DEPRIVED OF LIFE LIBERTY OR PROPERTY WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF LAW." When you're a soldier, you take an oath to defend the Constitution. We patriotic civlians should do the same. Fight the Draft! |
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May 22 2004, 04:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,795 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,421 |
Thank you Minda
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May 22 2004, 04:34 PM
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Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
I read an article in the Congress Digest on the Draft... it was their focus this time.
Four Congressmen and other people wrote on both sides... It was really sad seeing the draft supported by democrats, and opposed by Republicans (most famously Ron Paul, probably the biggest Reaganite in Congress). That's one more reason the Democratic Party's message has moved away from liberty, and towards communism. |
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May 22 2004, 04:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,795 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,421 |
QUOTE I read an article in the Congress Digest on the Draft... it was their focus this time. Four Congressmen and other people wrote on both sides... It was really sad seeing the draft supported by democrats, and opposed by Republicans (most famously Ron Paul, probably the biggest Reaganite in Congress). That's one more reason the Democratic Party's message has moved away from liberty, and towards communism. Dang.. that makes the election a lot more difficult... on one hand, you have Bush.. and on the other hand, you have the slightly communistic democrats.. |
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