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[xTINAA]

I don't really get what people are saying. There is a plot. I see and follow the plot. It might not be as ingenious as we all wanted it to be, but it is still there.

I'm not saying it was the most amazing movie ever but it wasn't that bad, honestly. About all the sex seen in the movie...well it's rated R. You gotta be expecting SOME of that especially when it's about two boys from college. Sure, the movie could have been made with less of it and more of the actual torture part but then I'm pretty sure you all would be complaining "oh my god! that was such a horrible movie. there was way too much gore and killing and it was so disgusting. i could barely sit through it without wanting to throw up". And all the sex actually played a role in the plot.

Oh, and it was not scary at all. I didn't expect it to be scary in the first place. I expected it to be a movie somewhat similiar to Saw.

[i_liek_sushi]

^ Well, since you're pretty... and you like it, i'll probably like it too.

Oh, and it was not scary at all. I didn't expect it to be scary in the first place. I expected it to be a movie somewhat similiar to Saw.

Yeah! That's what I'm thinking.

[vash1530]

i saw it todai and i have to say that it wasn't bad. it had a decent and interesting plot that got boring at times but for the most part kept my interest. It did end kind of abruptly and that was the worst part of the movie for me. i thought it was very original and the blood and gore was excellent. i have to say that there were a lot of tits but, in case u didn't know, seduction plays a large role in the plot so there was bound to be something like that. i really liked the main charachter though. and the kid gangztas!!!!

[Teesa]

I don't really get what people are saying. There is a plot. I see and follow the plot. It might not be as ingenious as we all wanted it to be, but it is still there.

I'm not saying it was the most amazing movie ever but it wasn't that bad, honestly. About all the sex seen in the movie...well it's rated R. You gotta be expecting SOME of that especially when it's about two boys from college. Sure, the movie could have been made with less of it and more of the actual torture part but then I'm pretty sure you all would be complaining "oh my god! that was such a horrible movie. there was way too much gore and killing and it was so disgusting. i could barely sit through it without wanting to throw up". And all the sex actually played a role in the plot.

Oh, and it was not scary at all. I didn't expect it to be scary in the first place. I expected it to be a movie somewhat similiar to Saw.

Yeah we see and follow the plot, but some of us definitely did not think that the plot was very well done. And yes, the sex did play a role in it, but come on. Just because it's rated R, doesn't mean that half of the movie has to be like that. I hate comparing it to Saw, but that was a really good movie and didn't need any of that.

[JlIaTMK]

yes it sounds good on paper, but i wanted to watch a movie with the slightest hint of a plot, a movie that actually made sense, and a movie that was actually a "thriller".

hostel is basically... a soft porno for 60 minutes, and video from your knee surgery for the other half.

Ahaha. My friend said that it was basically about cutting people's knee caps off. Sad.

[vash1530]

^dont remember any knees getting cut off. jus brutal torture. i think the sex worked well with the overall movie.

[LuvsDogs387]

yeah shit was straight garbage!!!

here ill sum up the movie

first half of the movie was just ass and boobies.. ass and boobies.. then the second half uh oh... eye puss... torture.. gore..

movie over

complete garbage

i want 2 hours of my life back

garbage... trash.. litter.. waste.. missy elliot.. debris.. droppings.. juelz santana's cd.. excess.. kangsta.. "rubbish".. scraps.. junk.. sewage.. lil wayne...

WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT
SHIT IS POO POO.. DOO DOO.. ASS

watch munich instead

HAHAHA just as I suspected. Most [R rated] horror movies rely too much on gore now a-days and completly forget about the story. This would be the case for the piece of crap I saw yesterday, BloodRayne.

Haven't seen Munich yet, was it good?

[Lizzz.]

doesnt the toe cutting part remind you of Wentworth in PB , creepy.
Watching it on Saturday with a couple of friends.. Im to scared to watch the trailer... .
Oh what a disapointment, ass and boobies LOL. Ew, cutting people's knee cap off... ew, how strange.

[xTINAA]

Yeah we see and follow the plot, but some of us definitely did not think that the plot was very well done. And yes, the sex did play a role in it, but come on. Just because it's rated R, doesn't mean that half of the movie has to be like that. I hate comparing it to Saw, but that was a really good movie and didn't need any of that.

I don't really get what people are saying. There is a plot. I see and follow the plot. It might not be as ingenious as we all wanted it to be, but it is still there.

I already addressed the fact that the plot was not the best. By the way, you yourself mentioned that you weren't even sure if you understood (followed) the plot.

^Haha, of course you would like all of that But honestly, it was too much.
And I don't know if I quite understood the plot, but whatever. I wouldn't watch it again.

Of course Saw didn't need any of the sex. Sex was not part of the plot in Saw. The only reason these two movies get compared are because of the torture and gore otherwise really nothing is similar about them. The story lines are extremely different. There are several reasons why there was so much sex portrayed in this movie. Obviously it played a role in the whole plot so that's why it was there. To the extent it was there was to give more emphasis on it (because it really is the only reason why they go to the hostel thus making it important) and because sex sells. Hollywood will do what they can to make money and it has been proved time and time again that sex makes the money.

This post has been edited by M1SSxCHR1SSY: Jan 8 2006, 05:57 PM

[Teesa]

Okay, I should have stated it differently. I wasn't sure if I understood the plot throughout the movie, but afterwards, I just thought it was plain dumb. It's just my opinion, I didn't like the movie.

And I'm just saying that they could have cut out at least some of the sex. It was seriously like half of the movie.

[i_liek_sushi]

LuvsDogs387, I thought Munich was good. I just hated the ending... it ended in a stupid way. But good movie.

[Joss-eh-lime]

the trailer actually gave my nightmares...

yea not gonna see it

[xTINAA]

Okay, I should have stated it differently. I wasn't sure if I understood the plot throughout the movie, but afterwards, I just thought it was plain dumb. It's just my opinion, I didn't like the movie.

And I'm just saying that they could have cut out at least some of the sex. It was seriously like half of the movie.

Yes, they could have cut it out but it would have left out several important parts and it would also have had less of an effect/emphasis. It's honestly not even that much sex if you think about it. What could they have cut out? Hmm, perhaps the part where they meet the guy and there is a couple in his room having sex. That's about it. The part where they go and pay for the prostitutes in important in showing 1) they want sex that badly and 2) it develops Josh's character thus making it make more sense later on in the movie when he decides to go back to the hostel instead of staying at the bar. Hmm, another part where sex is shown...when they are at the hostel having sex with the girls. This is again important because 1) it shows how 'stupid' they were and careless because they just let Oli leave and 2) it shows how these girls decieved/lured them.

We talk about how much sex there is but what about how much drinking and smoking is going on? Should they have taken that out too? No. Because it is important to the plot and it needs to be there for emphasis.

So many movies have sex in them. Have you all seen Love Actually? It's supposed to be some romantic movie but one of the couples is a porno couple. Yes, they could have gotten rid of that couple, there would have been less sex, but the plot and emphasis would have been different.

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I apologize if I'm being a bitch but when I disagree, I really disagree.

[Teesa]

I think they could have just showed them going to the prostitute place, without showing all that. There are so many movies out there where it implies people are having sex or have had sex, without showing it. And it still makes the point clear.

And Love Actually, the porno couple to me was ridiculous. I didn't get why they were in it. Yeah, it was cute at the end where he asks her out or something, but the other couples were more central to the plot.

[NoSex]

I hate comparing it to Saw, but that was a really good movie and didn't need any of that.

I hate Saw. I thought that flick was trash. I'm thinking I'll like Hostel more and more. Heh heh

[xTINAA]

But it's rated R. A lot of those implied times are in like PG13 movies or on tv shows. And the times where it doesn't show it are usually when it's not as important to the movie or when there is something else to complement it. For example, in 40 Year Old Virgin, not all the times that everyone has sex in the movie is shown. It doesn't need to be shown. You can tell because of how raunchy and how they all talk and because of the title of the movie that you don't need every guy in the movie to be having sex.

Oh and in the prostitute place it actually doesn't SHOW them having sex. It really does imply it. After all, the doors are shut. All you see are the shadows and you hear them.

The porno couple was there to emphasize the point that love can happen to anyone, between any couple. Just like Hugh Grant was this politician and then the lady he fell in love with was basically a nobody, just like Colin Firth and how him and the lady he loved had a language barrier, etc.

[yo pusha]

aiyoooooooooo

holddup

tessa and chrissy dont you guys know eachother in real life? hahah did you go watch the movie together???

[Teesa]

^Haha, we did. She liked it, I didn't. And you didn't, right?

Yes, I get it, it's rated R. And I did not like 40 year old virgin either.

[pandamonium]

i thought it was a really good movie. esp the scences with the car.

[vash1530]

^ yes the car scene was very, very good!!!

[Rachel]

I don't really get what people are saying. There is a plot. I see and follow the plot. It might not be as ingenious as we all wanted it to be, but it is still there.

I'm not saying it was the most amazing movie ever but it wasn't that bad, honestly. About all the sex seen in the movie...well it's rated R. You gotta be expecting SOME of that especially when it's about two boys from college. Sure, the movie could have been made with less of it and more of the actual torture part but then I'm pretty sure you all would be complaining "oh my god! that was such a horrible movie. there was way too much gore and killing and it was so disgusting. i could barely sit through it without wanting to throw up". And all the sex actually played a role in the plot.

Oh, and it was not scary at all. I didn't expect it to be scary in the first place. I expected it to be a movie somewhat similiar to Saw.

Although I haven't seen the movie yet, I agree with you my dear. Nothing ever seems to be good enough for the moving going audience. Also, just a side note, I hear there was a loooot more gore/tourture but it had to be cut to do well in theatres. And also a different ending.

[*mzkandi*]

My friend saw it without me, damnit! Anywho, yeah I need to go see this, but with someone with me......

[NoSex]

I just saw it yesterday. I wasn't disapointed. I enjoyed it quite a bit.

The criticism based in the amount of nudity or sex shown is very shortsighted if you ask me. It misses the entire point of the film. We follow these boys as they take a trip across eastern Europe in an attempt to find hot Euro babes, legal (or non legal) drugs. They are chasing that thrill, and price isn't really much of an obstacle.

"Flesh-for-fantasy"

In the film's 2nd act, this is highly contrasted with an entirely different "flesh-for-fantasy" playing off nearly the same philosophy: Hedonism. Chasing that thrill, not caring much for those unfortunate to become of victim of your pleasure high, money not being much of an obstacle. These fantasies are right at your fingertips, but does that make it right? Just because it is so accessible?

The breasts, the sex, the drugs, the decadence, and seductive sceneries are sold-out for gore, blood, screaming, vomit, vile and disgusting imagery.

To me, it does not seem that Eli Roth was glorifying his characters actions in the 1st act of the film, rather, he was, in a way, demonizing them. In the end, they become the victims of that same chase for thrills that they set out for in the beginning.

To me, this was the most powerful message in the film. This is what sealed the deal for me. The contrast was so bold and vivid that the torture became just that much more severe and grueling. If it was not for the nudity, this emphasis would not exist.

(Also, I think the amount of "sex" was so exagerated. I was told to expect softcore porn. Sorry, no. It was not any where near that much sex.)

(Think about the movie more. Discuss it. I think there are some very interesting ideas being put forth here. Note the contrasted Euro chick "Love" for Americans, and the reality of the hatred of Americans at the "art show." Heck, Americans are the most exspensive. Think about our "Hero's" humiliation in the torture chamber, his "American" arrogance, and ignorance is stripped in a second as he pleads for his life. Abandoning his heritage, he speaks in German in an attempt to persuade his torturer. Think about the venge kill. Our "hero" just went through a pay-to-kill mill for rich and powerful. He just esacped, he's safe. And, instead of running further away, he drags himself closer, not only in proximity, but in philosophy, by consciously pursueing a venge kill. That's disturbing.)

[xscore]

i was going to watch it just because jay hernandez is on it, but my cousin threw up continuously after the movie, so no.

[synthase]

i DONT want to see it. because of many reasons that i do not want to discuss right now
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