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post Jan 4 2006, 10:36 AM
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I have been wanting to see Hostel for about a year now. Eli Roth showed alot of vision and promise in Cabin Fever and I was dieing for a follow up. Over the years, Eli has gained a great deal of respect for asian extreme cinema, most notably in the films of Miike Takashi. Mr. Takashi himself even has a cameo appearence in Hostel.

Lots of inspiration and influence are going to be thrown into this work and I can't wait to see it. It is my strong belief that Eli knows alot about his trade. He loves horror films and has worked in film, in some way, nearly all his life. Shooting short horror flicks as a kid on Super 8. Covering his borthers in ketchup and telling them to stay as still as possible. They're dead.

The guy is knowledgable and skilled. Expect a draw back to 1970's exploitation film. It's gonna be a wild ride. I'm sure.

Now, for my criticism. My criticism is in no way directed towards Mr. Roth. Well, maybe indirectly. It's directed to the distribution companies of Lions Gate and Screen Gems as well as Mr. Tarantino. Eli Roth has worked very hard to get this film made. Lions Gate had bought distribution rights to Cabin Fever, and Eli was very happy with them. They distributed the DVD and helped to build a wide theatrical release. One big problem seems to have arised that the public doesn't quite know about. For some reason, Eli has dropped the DVD distribution to Screen Gems and left a theatrical release to Lions Gate. Can you say contract obligations? I have an inkling that Eli doesn't like Lion's Gate for some reason, and they have his balls for another.

Moving along, this film has embarresingly been pimped out to big time and big names. Quentin Tarantino, love him to death, but he has to stop whoring his name out to every other 'big' release. I'm tired of seeing Tarantino's name larger than Eli's. Hero? The hell! I'm sick and tired of seeing Tarantino get just as much credit, if not more, for Sin City. Mr. Rodriguez and Miller did a fantastic job. The film will speak for itself, stop trying to patranize us Dimension.

Just on this forum alone, there have already been several people with the impression that Tarantino has made this film. Sweet Jesus! It actually works?!

Several people, knowing how much a fan I am of Tarantino's, have already come up to me. This was during the theatrical release of Saw 2. *sigh*

"Did you hear Tarantino has a new horror film?!"
"Grind House? Are you talking about Graind House? Please tell me you are talking about grind house."
"Grind House?"
"Yeah, it's Tarantino's horror film. Well, his and Rodriguez's. It's in pre-production right now"
"Oh? He has another one?!"
"No. Just that one."
"That can't be right. I just..."
"...saw Saw 2?"
"Yeah? How did you know?"
*cough*
"It's called Hotel."
*cough*

No wonder they do it. This shit actually works!

Sure, maybe this film wouldn't get as wide a release if Tarantino's name wasn't all over it. Sure, maybe more people will now see a great film. Maybe that's what Tarantino wants, maybe that's why he is whoring his name out. For the little guy. Maybe. But, what does Eli Roth want? And why has he changed distribution for the DVD to Screen Gems? Did Lion's Gate refuse to make Quentin's name a bit smaller? Maybe not screem it out at the top of their greedy lungs any more? For whatever reason, the truth of the matter is that someone high up at Lion's Gate borrowed some cash from Tarantino in, or maybe even after, post production.

Quentin Tarantino has absolutely nothing to do with any creative aspect or making of the film Hostel. He is just a presenter. At best, an "executive producer." He has nothing to do with the intellectual property. I like both Lion's Gate, and QT. I really do. Sometimes, they just piss me off. Poor uninfluential and insignificant Eli Roth. Maybe someday he'll get the recognition he deserves.
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 01:12 PM
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What makes you think Eli Roth has promise? Cabin Fever was absolutely atrocious. You're giving the guy too much credit for nothing.
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 03:08 PM
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this movie looks good =]

cant wait to see it!
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(veve @ Jan 4 2006, 1:12 PM)
What makes you think Eli Roth has promise? Cabin Fever was absolutely atrocious. You're giving the guy too much credit for nothing.
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Why do you feel that Cabin Fever was "atrocious?"
What do you consider a better more recent horror film?
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 09:09 PM
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Agreed with Acid Bath Slayer on the Tarantino issue. Dude is basically selling his name to any movie. But Cabin Fever was horrible.
 
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post Jan 5 2006, 01:02 AM
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^i also agree. this is sh!t that i could not imagine tarantino doin when he was makin those indie classics. what the fcuk is his next project aneways? is he still making that movie "inglorious bastards". ive been looking for a tarantino directed film for some time now.
 
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post Jan 5 2006, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(vash1530 @ Jan 5 2006, 1:02 AM)
^i also agree. this is sh!t that i could not imagine tarantino doin when he was makin those indie classics. what the fcuk is his next project aneways? is he still making that movie "inglorious bastards". ive been looking for a tarantino directed film for some time now.
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News on Inglorious Bastards seems to be chill. The film might not even have a "filming" script written up yet. So, expect it in late 2006 at earliest. Grind House, Tarantino and Rodriguez's new horror flick, is in pre-production. Nearly in production. On a live chat with Mr. Rodriguez, over at DVDFanatic, I heard him mention that he had even filmed some parts for his own segment in the film.

Expect Grind House before Inglorious Bastards.

This is the only real stuff of any true significance in serious consideration right now. Unless you want to count Kill Bill Vol. 3 or something silly like that.
 
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post Jan 5 2006, 03:07 AM
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looks like another SAW [II]

I don't mind the horror genre but when it comes to excessive gore I cant watch it.

A pychological thriller movie is much more interesting [to me] because it doesn't just rely on visual images. Something that has a scarry concept is much more likely to haunt you for a longer period of time then a few gory images. Because you can always tell yourself its fake/realize its fake.
 
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post Jan 5 2006, 07:30 AM
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^ and you didn't consider saw II a psychological thriller?

btw thanks for the update acidbathslayer.
 
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post Jan 5 2006, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(vash1530 @ Jan 5 2006, 7:30 AM)
btw thanks for the update acidbathslayer.
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Ohh yeah. No problem

Also, I didn't think Saw II was gory at all. Also, I thought it sucked. This is for sure not a Saw rip-off. Infact, Saw hadn't even come out yet until two years after the idea begun brewing in Eli's head to write and direct Hostel. It will be an original creation, I'm sure. I would expect alot more brutality, and actual gore. But, at the same time, I believe that there is a very real possibility that the gore hound buzz is just buzz and nother more. I guess we'll see.
 
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post Jan 5 2006, 11:52 AM
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I really want to see this movie.
I <3 Horror Films!
 
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post Jan 5 2006, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Jan 5 2006, 10:54 AM)
Ohh yeah. No problem

Also, I didn't think Saw II was gory at all. Also, I thought it sucked. This is for sure not a Saw rip-off. Infact, Saw hadn't even come out yet until two years after the idea begun brewing in Eli's head to write and direct Hostel. It will be an original creation, I'm sure. I would expect alot more brutality, and actual gore. But, at the same time, I believe that there is a very real possibility that the gore hound buzz is just buzz and nother more. I guess we'll see.
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i agree that sawII wasn't that gory but i dont think it sucked. i do agree that it couldve been a better movie if it were better casted among other things, but i definiteley dont think it sucked. getting back on topic, has the movie been edited at all from its original form? hollywood has done that with a lot of foreign films and i wanted to know if this was the same.
 
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post Jan 5 2006, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(vash1530 @ Jan 5 2006, 12:37 PM)
has the movie been edited at all from its original form? hollywood has done that with a lot of foreign films and i wanted  to know if this was the same.
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It's not really a foreign film. It's very much an american film despite a diverse range of nationality represented both in the film and in the crew. The writer and director, and most producers are american. Although it was shot in the Czech Republic, and most of the film takes place in Iceland, it's still an American film. I think something like nine languages are spoken in the film with no subtitles whatsoever. It's some kind of record.

Anyways, the film was first shown last year in november on the festival circuit in Iceland. Not long after it was shown in Canada at the Toronto Festival, the same festival Cabin Fever saw it's first big showing. It's theatrical release in Iceland is the same theatrical release here in the states. Tomorrow.

The rest of the world has to wait. Heh heh.

As for editing down from it's original form. That happens all the time. It's a given. However, insofar as I can tell, the cut that is going to be shown in Iceland is the same cut being shown in the states. So, don't worry about any washed down versions. We're pretty much all seeing the same material for the first time tomorrow.
 
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post Jan 5 2006, 04:53 PM
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damn, after reading about inglorious bastards, i can't wait till more about the movie comes out, seems like a good plot. like like war movies and ww2 stuff
 
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post Jan 7 2006, 01:28 AM
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Okay, I just saw it tonight.

I must admit, I was really disappointed. I didn't like it that much. sad.gif Oh, well, Jay Hernandez is still ever so beautiful.
 
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post Jan 7 2006, 01:38 AM
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yeah shit was straight garbage!!!

here ill sum up the movie

first half of the movie was just ass and boobies.. ass and boobies.. then the second half uh oh... eye puss... torture.. gore..

movie over

complete garbage

i want 2 hours of my life back

garbage... trash.. litter.. waste.. missy elliot.. debris.. droppings.. juelz santana's cd.. excess.. kangsta.. "rubbish".. scraps.. junk.. sewage.. lil wayne...

WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT
SHIT IS POO POO.. DOO DOO.. ASS

watch munich instead
 
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post Jan 7 2006, 01:51 AM
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^Haha, thank you Steven. What was up with all of the sex? The movie could have saved so much time without it and added more of the actual plot, instead of all that unnecessary hollywood stuff. ARGH.


edit//Okay, the eye part made me squirm.

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post Jan 7 2006, 10:38 AM
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I agree with the above. The movie was garbage. After seeing the trailer I thought that it would be awsome. I was in for a huge suprise. An hour of sex and girls naked and then thirty minutes of what the trailer presented. Except you didn't see much of anything. The plot was so weak, next time they need to take out all the bullshit and actually make a movie properly.
 
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post Jan 7 2006, 11:11 AM
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Looks interesting. I'd pay $6.95 to watch.
 
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everyone said it was stupid and should have ben much more gorryer.
 
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post Jan 7 2006, 02:44 PM
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Somehow, I think I'll like it. Everyone hates Cabin Fever, I love it. Everyone hates The Blair Witch Project, I love it. I guess I have an odd taste in horror films.

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I don't know though. I am skeptical.
 
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QUOTE(syntheikdoll @ Jan 7 2006, 10:38 AM)
I agree with the above. The movie was garbage. After seeing the trailer I thought that it would be awsome. I was in for a huge suprise. An hour of sex and girls naked and then thirty minutes of what the trailer presented. Except you didn't see much of anything. The plot was so weak, next time they need to take out all the bullshit and actually make a movie properly.
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WHAT?!

Damn I've been waiting for this movie... >___<

I like violent and disturbing movies, oh well, I'll still try it out to see if I like it. You said it had a lot of sex and naked girls? Sorry but that's a good thing. rolleyes.gif
 
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post Jan 7 2006, 05:59 PM
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^Haha, of course you would like all of that rolleyes.gif But honestly, it was too much.
And I don't know if I quite understood the plot, but whatever. I wouldn't watch it again.
 
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post Jan 7 2006, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(i_liek_sushi @ Jan 7 2006, 12:04 PM)
WHAT?!

Damn I've been waiting for this movie... >___<

I like violent and disturbing movies, oh well, I'll still try it out to see if I like it. You said it had a lot of sex and naked girls? Sorry but that's a good thing.  rolleyes.gif
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yes it sounds good on paper, but i wanted to watch a movie with the slightest hint of a plot, a movie that actually made sense, and a movie that was actually a "thriller".

hostel is basically... a soft porno for 60 minutes, and video from your knee surgery for the other half.
 
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eeek. the previews are scary. i wanna see it. :DDD
 

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