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Bush vs. Kerry: who will win?, you're opinions |
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![]() silver bullet ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 130 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,806 ![]() |
I personally think it will be a tight race, but I'm not sure America would want to change Presidents in the middle of a war, so I go Bush.
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![]() Master Debater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,066 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 15,719 ![]() |
I say Bush. We're in the middle of a war and people vote for him for god knows what reason.
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i think kerry, cuz bush has lots of stuff against him
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*Kathleen* |
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QUOTE I say Bush. We're in the middle of a war and people vote for him for god knows what reason. Haha I second that. It's true - Bush started it...he should finish it just as well. |
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 ![]() |
Here's my prediction: a 286 to 252 win for Kerry. The key battleground state in 2004 will be Ohio, which I think Kerry will pick up on jobs.
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![]() original member. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 4,825 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,460 ![]() |
I'm not sure. Its going to be fooking tight though.
People (like myself) are going to vote (bah...I can't vote though. ) for Bush because he has taken us so far into this Mire. Lets see what he has left for us. Maybe he can veer us out of this. Kerry = ![]() |
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QUOTE Kerry = ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 ![]() |
QUOTE(Mireh @ May 17 2004, 4:04 PM) I'm not sure. Its going to be fooking tight though. People (like myself) are going to vote (bah...I can't vote though. ) for Bush because he has taken us so far into this Mire. Lets see what he has left for us. Maybe he can veer us out of this. Kerry = ![]() haha a pro-Bush liberal. I'm a pro-Kerry conservative. The way I see it most presidents do more bad than good. Hopefully, Kerry will be hogtied by the Republican Congress so that nothign gets done in four years and then we can get a real president. Bush isn't really a conservative anyway. He's raised spending (including social spending) far more than any president to date, including Clinton. |
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![]() i'm too cool 4 school ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 ![]() |
I think Bush will win, because as much as these voters bash him they still vote for him and his ideas in November. Personally I hope Bush wins. Kerry.. i just don't believe in him.
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 ![]() |
QUOTE People (like myself) are going to vote (bah...I can't vote though. ) I'm registered to vote. I shall vote Bush for the lot of you. |
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QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 17 2004, 4:26 PM) I think Bush will win, because as much as these voters bash him they still vote for him and his ideas in November. Personally I hope Bush wins. Kerry.. i just don't believe in him. Well, I'm sure you've had to agree with SOMETHING Kerry said ![]() No, but seriously, Ohio has a very strong union vote. War or no war, Ohio is probably going to vote democrat on job loss. Same with West Virginia. If Kerry wins Ohio, it's over for Bush. |
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![]() Master Debater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,066 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 15,719 ![]() |
lets hold a vote for who uninspiredfae will vote for.
direct voting + water = electoral college voting electoral college voting + water = our vote for who fae should vote for. |
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 ![]() |
QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 17 2004, 5:25 PM) lets hold a vote for who uninspiredfae will vote for. direct voting + water = electoral college voting electoral college voting + water = our vote for who fae should vote for. Haha, Fae shall vote for BUSH. No need to poll on that one Griffin. <-- don't like Kerry. |
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![]() i'm too cool 4 school ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 ![]() |
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 17 2004, 5:14 PM) Well, I'm sure you've had to agree with SOMETHING Kerry said ![]() No, but seriously, Ohio has a very strong union vote. War or no war, Ohio is probably going to vote democrat on job loss. Same with West Virginia. If Kerry wins Ohio, it's over for Bush. Yeah but then again people thought the same with Florida and that Gore would win. I think again Nader will upset the vote. I do agree when he says he shouldn't ship companies overseas, but then again his wife's company Heinz has shipped most of its jobs overseas |
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 ![]() |
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 17 2004, 5:45 PM) Yeah but then again people thought the same with Florida and that Gore would win. I think again Nader will upset the vote. I do agree when he says he shouldn't ship companies overseas, but then again his wife's company Heinz has shipped most of its jobs overseas I'm not AGAINST outscouring. I think outsourcing is good for the economy. I have done extensive research on this topic. Basically only ONE out of every SIX Americans works in an industry vulnerable to outsourcing. For the other FIVE, outsourcing means lower prices and MORE jobs. Without outsourcing, we'd actually have about teh same amount of net jobs, and higher prices for the consumer in the street and higher inflation, hurting us all. I'm just saying that it's an issue people will vote on. Nader will NOT upset the vote. I've heard that he plans to drop out of the election and 'save' it for the democrats, so that he can get even more votes in 2008. Besides, if the Libertarian Party nominates the movie producer Aaron Russo, he could potentially take away enough Republcian votes in Nevada to switch the state to Kerry, which combined with West Virginia would win the election also (When Russo ran for governor of Nevada as a libertarian, he got 47% in the polls before dropping out for bladder cancer). |
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 ![]() |
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 17 2004, 5:51 PM) I'm not AGAINST outscouring. I think outsourcing is good for the economy. I have done extensive research on this topic. Basically only ONE out of every SIX Americans works in an industry vulnerable to outsourcing. For the other FIVE, outsourcing means lower prices and MORE jobs. Thank you! At least now there's someone else who understands outsourcing for what it is! |
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![]() Master Debater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,066 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 15,719 ![]() |
*clears throat*
THEY TUK OUR JERBS!!! I heard outsourcing was failing though due to the shoddy work of underpaid, undereducated foreigners. I'm not one to argue against outsourcing though, my mom works for Misys which outsources it's software development stuff. Keeps food on my plate ![]() |
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![]() 3,565, you n00bs ain't got nothin' on me. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 3,761 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,565 ![]() |
Bush will win. Republican is tied together, there's no Green Party to take away votes from the Republicans. Also, Bush may have stuff against him, but remember, Florida and Texas are mostly on his side, as demonstrated in the 2k election.
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![]() Master Debater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,066 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 15,719 ![]() |
QUOTE Florida and Texas are mostly on his side, as demonstrated in the 2k election. I'm not sure about florida. come to think of it, are they even allowed in this year's elections? |
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 ![]() |
QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 17 2004, 6:43 PM) THEY TUK OUR JERBS!!! I heard outsourcing was failing though due to the shoddy work of underpaid, undereducated foreigners. I'm not one to argue against outsourcing though, my mom works for Misys which outsources it's software development stuff. Keeps food on my plate ![]() My parents said the sameeee thing: "Our jobs are going overseas". I told me Mom: "Don't worry, by the time some foreigner's doing your job, I would already be making enough money to take care of you". *Collective 'AWs' in the dinning room* |
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 ![]() |
QUOTE(juliar @ May 17 2004, 7:49 PM) Bush will win. Republican is tied together, there's no Green Party to take away votes from the Republicans. Also, Bush may have stuff against him, but remember, Florida and Texas are mostly on his side, as demonstrated in the 2k election. ![]() Bush only won like 271-267 in 2000 even with Florida. West Virginia will switch to Kerry I can guarantee that. They always vote democrat. Gore only lost cause he was an environmentalist. Kerry will pick up. Ohio is going to be the key battleground state this time around. Kerry has a very good chance there. And if he wins Ohio, it's all over. |
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Kerry says what the people want to hear.
Moldable minds aren't presidential material. - Card-carrying Republican, and voting for Bush. |
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i vote kerry... i think bush has a better chance of winning though
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 ![]() |
QUOTE(juliar @ May 17 2004, 7:49 PM) Bush will win. Republican is tied together, there's no Green Party to take away votes from the Republicans. Also, Bush may have stuff against him, but remember, Florida and Texas are mostly on his side, as demonstrated in the 2k election. ![]() Haha, only there IS a green party to take away votes from the Republicans: The US Reform Party, led by Pat Buchanan. I wrote a lengthy article on why Buchanan would take away so many votes for Bush that Bush would lose the election, but it got moved to the Lounge. Basically the gist of it is this: Bush has pretty much split the Republican Party in two through his neo-conservatism, just like his daddy did. All the hardline conservatives (not neo-cons, I mean conservatives: pro-balanced budget, anti-war, religious right-wingers) are likely to support the Reform Party, as they did in 1992. Ross Perot got 15% of the vote in 1992 as the Reform Party. I'm willing to bet Buchanan will get at least 5%, switching the vote to Kerry. Add to that the factor of job loss, and I think it's reasonable to say that Kerry has a much better chance of winning than Bush. No one thought Clinton would win in 1992, and he won because Bush Sr. was a neo-con who alienated a third of his own party. This is exactly what Bush Jr. is doing? The Reform Party magazine, American Conservative (www.amconmag.com) is selling very well I hear. |
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![]() Liv's Secret Lover *shhhh* ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 201 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,229 ![]() |
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 17 2004, 5:00 PM) I'm registered to vote. I shall vote Bush for the lot of you. Thank you!!!!!! You represent alot of us underaged republicans! hahaha... ![]() |
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