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new hiring process, pros and cons
sadolakced acid
post Dec 10 2005, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 6 2005, 10:10 PM)
what i suggest is that such members may write out a short application in a thread, which each mod can read and decide if they wish to nominate the members.

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something like that, mayhaps?
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 12:15 AM
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^But didnt even you say some qualifed member may be turned off by the whole application type process and may not apply? I do believe you said you wouldnt have applied if applications were involved.
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 12:34 AM
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i mean in addition to nominations the way they were.

just like a thread where you can post if you wish to be nominated and for what.
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 12:38 AM
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Then whats the point in nominating at all. I think that has been suggested anyway. If some members have to go through an application type process then they all should go through it to make it fair.
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 01:13 AM
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well, i think application should be:

i wish to be considered for nomination to people staff.
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 01:17 AM
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Self nominating....hmmm.. See I thought this was about Mod nominations. I think mods knows who best to work with and what not. If any nominations should take place then it should be by us. We will know whether a member is qualifed or not without a member telling us, dont you think? Make sense? I think so. Of course we did have a community input thread in the lounge to influence on who we should nominate, but yeah half the members didnt even use that thread correctly.

Or course like you said, so members may even shy away from that.
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 10 2005, 12:13 AM)
well, i think application should be:

i wish to be considered for nomination to people staff.
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AHHHHHHHHHH thats what i was saying but sammi didnt get it.

wait nvm...because i dont nominations. once again, they are just like endorsements which is one of the first things we got rid of.
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 01:23 AM
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well, i think people should be able to request that mods review them for nomination.

keep same system as we used.

add in a thread where you can request mods individual choose whether they wish to nominate you or not.

like, if we had nominations, then each mod would go and nominate the people they thought would do well.

if someone who feels they should be nominated isn't, they should be able to post somewhere

"i wish to be considered for nomination"

at which i'd (along with the toher mods) would consider if we'd forgoten about them, and mayhaps look through some of thier old posts. if i feel they should be nominated, i'd nominate them. if not, i'd either just not, or PM them and say why i decided not to nominate them.
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 01:26 AM
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So, have the qualifed and the not so qualifed nominations seperate....i see, i see











Like Sammi said, I think some of you are missing the true essense of nominations...


In case you forget, let me school you

nomination
A noun
1. nomination
the act of officially naming a candidate.

Not mod reviews, actually naming a candidate. We have 30 plus members on the mod team, if you arent recognized by at least one you aint doing nothing all that special.
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 10 2005, 1:13 AM)
well, i think application should be:

i wish to be considered for nomination to people staff.
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yeeeesss


i still support the idea of mods nominating, but members should be able to say that they're interested.
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 12:13 PM
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If thats the case, I support the fact that if you are really are oh so qualifed you wont have to call too much attention to yourself by saying so.
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 12:30 PM
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I agree with Sammi more. I didn't like apps at all. I think we should keep the nominations process. The mods did a great job of nominating people who were qualified, good members. Yes, there were some that I didn't think should have been nominated, but every person had that. Overall, I think we should keep the nominations process as is.
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 01:13 PM
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keep nominations like now, except add a thread where people can post "i'd like to be considered for nomination"

i doubt anyone who has to resort to that to be noticed would be hired, but we can certainly let them try.
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 10 2005, 1:13 PM)
keep nominations like now, except add a thread where people can post "i'd like to be considered for nomination"

i doubt anyone who has to resort to that to be noticed would be hired, but we can certainly let them try.
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i dont see whats wrong in just posting that you're interested.

for example:

i'm interested in being people staff or xanga staff.

thats it.

no reasons, like "im really responsible and I know what a mod does and i absolutely HATE spam" and blah blah blah.
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 01:26 PM
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I don't see why you need to do that. The way we have it now really weeds out those who deserve to be considered from the ones that don't. It would have wound up the exact same way and the exact same people would have been nominated if there was a thread to say "I want to be nominated" in. There's no reason to implement it.
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(disco infiltrator @ Dec 10 2005, 1:26 PM)
I don't see why you need to do that. The way we have it now really weeds out those who deserve to be considered from the ones that don't. It would have wound up the exact same way and the exact same people would have been nominated if there was a thread to say "I want to be nominated" in. There's no reason to implement it.
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not "i want to be nominated"

just have the people who are interested. that way mods arent nominating members who dont want to be staff. and they know what the members think they'd be best for. of course, most of it should be left up to the mods.
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 02:29 PM
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^ but if they're nominated they might change their mind.

see, i wouldn't have applied because i thought most mods would be against me becuase of my past actions and my nature. however, when i saw how many people nominated me, i changed my mind and accepted the nomination.
 
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post Dec 10 2005, 03:28 PM
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i dont think they'd change their minds.

maybe there could be a .. rule maybe that if they say they're interested it should mean that if they were nominated and would accept their nominations.


that didnt make any sense.

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post Dec 27 2005, 07:29 PM
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Pros: New staff members

Cons: Take into consideration, everyone isnt liked by everyone, which means if someone that has greate potential for a place as a staff member isnt liked by everyone they dont have a great chance of being picked.

editt///Perhaps maybe only staff members can nominate for new staff members..
 
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post Dec 28 2005, 07:06 AM
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that pro is silly. ANY new hiring process would give us new mods.

as for your con, that is why the member input is only part of the process. the mods also have a say. if a member cant stand out enough to be mentioned either by the members OR by the mods, then hey shouldn't be on staff anyway
 
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post Dec 30 2005, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(RupertGrintluvr15 @ Dec 27 2005, 7:29 PM)
Pros: New staff members

Cons: Take into consideration, everyone isnt liked by everyone, which means if someone that has greate potential for a place as a staff member isnt liked by everyone they dont have a great chance of being picked.

editt///Perhaps maybe only staff members can nominate for new staff members..
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Uh, only staff members can nominate new people..that's how it is.....

I don't know why this is even still up for discussion. The new way was voted in. That's that.
 
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post Dec 30 2005, 04:41 PM
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so, we shouldnt review things after, to make sure no problems were noticed?

ok then

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post Jan 1 2006, 02:27 PM
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I do believe there were some incidents in which others complained that things were still trying to be put out of the by-laws even after they were voted in.

But, whatever. Unless someone can think up a better way to do this, that serves the same purpose as this intended to {weeding out those that really shouldn't be there anyway}, then fine by me, but I have yet to see such a thing.
 

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