God Options

[likeachild]

with pleasure...

alright, to begin...

so you hear that people who have faith in God/Adonai and Jesus/Yeshua, whatever language you call his name by, are going to be much happier in their lives if they do... oh man... WRONG!

dude, if you really have faith in Christ and his Father, you will know that life is going to be like a prick in your @$$. Theres going to be so many spiritual warfares and trials to go through, its unbelievable. Your boss is gonna cuss you out and fire you, and you dont even know WTF just happened. ofcourse the smart believers know that satan/the devil, whatever you call em, was in charge of that crap. Yes God allowed it to happen. He wanted to see if you would curse Him out if it happened. it was a trial.

so your a happy camper believer, but gossip starts around you, and now your friends are hatin on you for some reason. WTF RIGHT? spiritual warfare. satans messin with ya. but never forget God is there, hes watching. he's seeing your reactions. hes testing you. he wants to know if your the RIGHT guy/girl to be with Him in His presence. Oh but i forgot, He already knows that you belong with him, Hes God. He knows all. He just wants you to realize that you belong to Him. God works in mysterious ways. Ways we will never comprehend.

cough: i need to preach in a black church :cough

moving on...

oh so you dont believe in him now, you dont SEE him now.. hunh.. oh boy.
when you come face to face with Death, and you see that there is no way out, OH MAN, your gonna SEE HIM, your gonna SEE HIM and His mighty Glory, and your gonna break down, surrender and cry out to Him, and he will Save you, because you SAW HIM.

You know what, yeah, cuz i said so. Your gonna go to church one day, and your.. hmm.. ok I'm pray on this. your gonna become a preacher someday and be preaching to everyone. YEah i can see this happening. God loves you, and when you find out, you will surrender

I need a drink of water. i see now why pastors drink water in front of the church. goodness..

pretend life is an airplane
you are on the airplane
and christianity is a parachute

so a flight attendant gives you a parachute

and tell's you to wear it, claiming that it will "improve your flight"
you put it on, put it's heavy and uncomfortable
other passengers laugh at you and
finally, you take it off

but the problem is the the airplane of life will crash
no matter what. It is inevitable

what the attendant should have said was that
the airplane was going to crash at any time
and the parachute would save your life
then would you take it off?
even if everybody laughed at you
you would hold on because you know that they won't be laughing when they have to jump out the plane without a parachute

I hold on to my faith I know it will save my soul

what is your soul?

pretend these eye doctors are looking for a pair of healthy eyes
they will pay $20 million for one eye and $100 million for a matching pair

would you be willing to sell one of your eyes, let alone both of them?
No person in their right mind would sell their eyes

you value your eyes
but your eyes are only windows
close your eyelids and you can't see out
how much more valuable then is your soul, the very essence of your being?

you can never kill a man's soul
it is eternal
but would you rather live in eternal torment or eternal blessing and joy?

it's true, being a christian means trials and temptations,
but is not the prize so much greater?

Fix your eyes on the finish line and keep on running

[whomps]

[quote=jewishbabeygirl87,May 15 2004, 3:22 AM] what was wrong about what i said??

other people have said that they dont belive in G-d or jesus and you didnt say anything to them now did you??!!
i mereley stated that though i belive in G-d i think jesus had something wrong in his head, didnt come back to life, and yes was properly shunned by the jews for trying to change the torah.
gee i thought that this was a debate.




no it wasnt. i was a quote for someone else who told someone that they were uninspired because they didnt belive in jesus.




especially jesus christ? how ironic. what makes your religion more significant than anyone else's?

I used to be Agnostic, then I asked myself why I wasn't fighting something that kills thousands of people every year. So I moved on to Athiest. Now I'm content. [/QUOTE]
well you no what mireh you people bash my religion everyday by talking all about your idol worship of jesus and mary and such. i am a beliver in G-d. not a beliver in jesus. you tell people to belive in jesus all he time. everyone does. i dont.
dont tell people what to do. ask them about what they belive instead. [/quote]
You said "retarded school teacher named Jesus".
Other people have said that they don't believe in God, but at least they didn't call Jesus retarded. Now that's just rude.


I think you have a problem realizing what "bashing" other people's religion is. Mireh isn't bashing your religion everyday by saying in what she believes. It has to do with her beliefs, not your religion.

Yeah, you're right, this IS a debate. It's not a "bash other people's religion" topic.

pretend life is an airplane
you are on the airplane
and christianity is a parachute

so a flight attendant gives you a parachute

and tell's you to wear it, claiming that it will "improve your flight"
you put it on, put it's heavy and uncomfortable
other passengers laugh at you and
finally, you take it off

but the problem is the the airplane of life will crash
no matter what.  It is inevitable

what the attendant should have said was that
the airplane was going to crash at any time
and the parachute would save your life
then would you take it off?
even if everybody laughed at you
you would hold on because you know that they won't be laughing when they have to jump out the plane without a parachute

I hold on to my faith I know it will save my soul

what is your soul?

pretend these eye doctors are looking for a pair of healthy eyes
they will pay $20 million for one eye and $100 million for a matching pair

would you be willing to sell one of your eyes, let alone both of them?
No person in their right mind would sell their eyes

you value your eyes
but your eyes are only windows
close your eyelids and you can't see out
how much more valuable then is your soul, the very essence of your being?

you can never kill a man's soul
it is eternal
but would you rather live in eternal torment or eternal blessing and joy?

it's true, being a christian means trials and temptations,
but is not the prize so much greater?
 
Fix your eyes on the finish line and keep on running

interesting enough i thought that this debate was about G-d, not trying to convert people to christianity. maybe i'm just stupid but ya no the title ia "god"
maybe though, you just misread it.

You said "retarded school teacher named Jesus".
Other people have said that they don't believe in God, but at least they didn't call Jesus retarded. Now that's just rude. 


I think you have a problem realizing what "bashing" other people's religion is. Mireh isn't bashing your religion everyday by saying in what she believes. It has to do with her beliefs, not your religion.

Yeah, you're right, this IS a debate. It's not a "bash other people's religion" topic.

yah well if she can say that she belives in jesus than i should be able to say what my religion teaches me.
jesus was a school teacher.
he was properly shunned by the jewish community for trying to change the religion to [wrongly] focus on him. he also tryed to seak out converts and followers, which is something jews grealty discourage.

there now i have said what i belive are you happy??!!
no probably not.
but that is not religion bashing. that is my belief.

[whomps]

just not in a retarted school teacher, properly shunned mind you, named jesus.

Religion bashing^

Religion bashing^

you obviosly didnt read the last post i made.

[whomps]

I did read your last post.


So I'm guessing that it's also your belief that Jesus is "retarted" right?

[Mireh]

Exactly! I totally agree with Eve.

well you no what mireh you people bash my religion everyday by talking all about your idol worship of jesus and mary and such. i am a beliver in G-d. not a beliver in jesus. you tell people to belive in jesus all he time. everyone does. i dont.
dont tell people what to do. ask them about what they belive instead.

How the hell do we bash your religion? Just give me one GOOD example of how we bash your religion.

We're not the ones calling your leaders "retarded school teachers who got shunned", now are we? How the heck are we bashing your religion!?

you people bash my religion everyday by talking all about your idol worship of jesus and mary

Haha. This is the part that makes me laugh. How does talking about religion and worship for OUR religion, hurt YOUR religion so much? Just because we talk about our "idols" does NOT mean you have to listen!

What ignorance.

what was wrong about what i said??

other people have said that they dont belive in G-d or jesus and you didnt say anything to them now did you??!!
i mereley stated that though i belive in G-d i think jesus had something wrong in his head, didnt come back to life, and yes was properly shunned by the jews for trying to change the torah.
gee i thought that this was a debate

Did you read the guidlines?! Obviously not!

[waccoon]

jewish, this isn't a topic to try to convert people to agnostism or atheism, or christianity. you were the one that started to bash, that started to make fun of jesus. i'm telling you now to stop. getting back on topic.

[*krnxswat*]

i'm telling you now to stop. getting back on topic.

Yes yes, or I'll strictly prevent you from posting in this forum.

[onenonly101]

[quote=jewishbabeygirl87,May 15 2004, 5:22 AM] what was wrong about what i said??

other people have said that they dont belive in G-d or jesus and you didnt say anything to them now did you??!!
i mereley stated that though i belive in G-d i think jesus had something wrong in his head, didnt come back to life, and yes was properly shunned by the jews for trying to change the torah.
gee i thought that this was a debate.




no it wasnt. i was a quote for someone else who told someone that they were uninspired because they didnt belive in jesus.




especially jesus christ? how ironic. what makes your religion more significant than anyone else's?

I used to be Agnostic, then I asked myself why I wasn't fighting something that kills thousands of people every year. So I moved on to Athiest. Now I'm content. [/QUOTE]
well you no what mireh you people bash my religion everyday by talking all about your idol worship of jesus and mary and such. i am a beliver in G-d. not a beliver in jesus. you tell people to belive in jesus all he time. everyone does. i dont.
dont tell people what to do. ask them about what they belive instead. [/quote]
I'm going to ask this reaaly wanting to know the truth. What is wrong with you? when i said i quoted uninspired i meant the person with the s/n uninspired.
You are saying people are discriminating against you but maybe you haven't realized that that is what you are doing. No one is trying to convert anyone. People asked what you believed in and they responded giving the reason for their belief. There is no reason you should start bashing others. I don't agree with buddahism or being atheist but do you see me saying something against it? Calm down, people usually get hyped up because they are umm lets see being hypocritical

[iheartsimba]

you guys, lets not make this like I wanna kill you if yyou don't belive in god.
You belive, or you don't.
We can't just convince people online.
and v@por, I liked what you said.
But lots of poeple just don't see it like that.


Lets make this a debate, not trying to convert people.

[x shrimpuff x]

im not goin against god but id have to go with Winter...

[Spirited Away]

no it wasnt. i was a quote for someone else who told someone that they were uninspired because they didnt belive in jesus.

especially jesus christ? how ironic. what makes your religion more significant than anyone else's?

WildGriffin got the correct definition of agnosticism. There are also several branches of agnoticism as well, and mine is agnostic humanist.

Anyway, I'm uninspiredFae because I don't believe in Jesus? It was more like, I'm uninspired because I was inspired to be original and had something different than what others had. So I got uninspired, from inspired... Well it made sense to me back then...

Anyway, I'm content with my life and my beliefs, I don't care for you judging me because, as a Christian would say, God will judge me when the time comes. Why are you so worried that I'm uninspired?

I am inspired enough to have logical ideas for my debates right?

[WildGriffin]

I am inspired enough to have logical ideas for my debates right?

Damn straight. And people, remember that we all have opinions that we believe in so please try not to come of as a flamming arse. It's a debate, not a shout out/down/whatever. Too many debates are becoming member bashings rather then factual/logical arguments.

[*Kathleen*]

So does anyone else have another, unspoken opinion about God (that doesn't include bashing him or Jesus in anyway)?

[BeyondElite]

For God created you, please do not debate about our God if you don't mind!

[juliar]

For God created you, please do not debate about our God if you don't mind!

If you don't feel comfortable on this subject, don't debate here. Maybe other people would like to debate on this.
Well, I believe in God in some aspects and in others just blahh. Forexample, the whole creation thing...no. I don't know, sometimes I think God exists, sometimes I don't.
Blahh.

[BeyondElite]

You all should be ashamed of your selves! In the commandment, we should follow. These are the words:


"I am the Lord your G-d, Who has taken you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of slavery"


"You shall have no other gods but me"


"You shall not take the name of your Lord in vain"


"You shall remember and keep the Sabbath day holy"


"Honor your father and mother"


"You shall not murder"


"You shall not commit adultery"


"You shall not steal"


"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor"


"You shall not covet your neighbor's goods. You shall not covet your neighbour's house. You shall not covet your neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his bull, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbour's."


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You are doing the 3rd one! And some of you are doing the 9th commandment!

It would be better rather than saying God, say G-d if you are in these following religions:

☺ Jewish
☺ Christians (Roman Catholic, Protestants, and Orthodox)
☺ Islam

For Islam, please, you can say Allah, but if you have Ten commandments, say All-ah.

THIS TOPIC SHOULD BE CLOSED AND STOP

[juliar]

You all should be ashamed of your selves! In the commandment, we should follow. These are the words:


"I am the Lord your G-d, Who has taken you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of slavery"


"You shall have no other gods but me"


"You shall not take the name of your Lord in vain"


"You shall remember and keep the Sabbath day holy"


"Honor your father and mother"


"You shall not murder"


"You shall not commit adultery"


"You shall not steal"


"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor"


"You shall not covet your neighbor's goods. You shall not covet your neighbour's house. You shall not covet your neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his bull, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbour's."


==========================

You are doing the 3rd one! And some of you are doing the 9th commandment!

It would be better rather than saying God, say G-d if you are in these following religions:

☺ Jewish
☺ Christians (Roman Catholic, Protestants, and Orthodox)
☺ Islam

For Islam, please, you can say Allah, but if you have Ten commandments, say All-ah.

THIS TOPIC SHOULD BE CLOSED AND STOP

WHAT IF WE ARE AGNOSTIC OR ATHEIST? And you just said God yourself.

Agnostic is a synonym for atheist. 

Not really. Agnostic means you don't necessarily believe there is no god, you just will believe it willingly, with proof.

[m@dcow]

hmmm... jesus is true, but i don't believe in God. The simple matter is if you want to believe in Him or not, and what is with all this Christianity stuff?... other religions

[melface]

It's called freedom of speech... You should take other people's beliefs and/or religion into consideration... Just because you're a faithful christian doesn't mean we're the same. By the way, this is directed to the kid with the 10 commandments. It's just like Juliar said, if you don't feel comfortable here.. then don't come here telling us not talk about your "God"... be considerate.

[onenonly101]

You all should be ashamed of your selves! In the commandment, we should follow. These are the words:


"I am the Lord your G-d, Who has taken you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of slavery"


"You shall have no other gods but me"


"You shall not take the name of your Lord in vain"


"You shall remember and keep the Sabbath day holy"


"Honor your father and mother"


"You shall not murder"


"You shall not commit adultery"


"You shall not steal"


"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor"


"You shall not covet your neighbor's goods. You shall not covet your neighbour's house. You shall not covet your neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his bull, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbour's."


==========================

You are doing the 3rd one! And some of you are doing the 9th commandment!

It would be better rather than saying God, say G-d if you are in these following religions:

☺ Jewish
☺ Christians (Roman Catholic, Protestants, and Orthodox)
☺ Islam

For Islam, please, you can say Allah, but if you have Ten commandments, say All-ah.

THIS TOPIC SHOULD BE CLOSED AND STOP

ok....um most of what you said had nothing to do with the debate.You need to calm that down. All this topic is abuot is do you believe in God or not. Also there isnnothing wrong with typing the word God as long as it is used i nthe right context. If it were wrong then that would be sayign the bible was wrong because it has God in print and that plays that talking about God and have it written down in the program is wrong. If typing/saying God's name was wrong(not using it in vain) then He wouldn't tell us to preach the gospel and give us different talents, such as writing to express and glorify Him.

[ComradeRed]

Hmm, that's quite true - my biology teacher pointed that out. I don't think anyone said anything about that. Good job. BUT, why didn't they just say four billion years, huh?

Cause the Earth is really old, of course .

It's a shame you didn't read that book I got you .

[*Kathleen*]

Cause the Earth is really old, of course .

It's a shame you didn't read that book I got you .

*Sigh* Minda, Minda, Minda...I will eventually, don't worry. Just so I can learn how to refute it. Anywho, what is your opinion on that? I know you go to a Catholic school, but do you honestly believe in God? You said so yourself your biology teacher made you believe in evolution haha.

[ComradeRed]

*Sigh* Minda, Minda, Minda...I will eventually, don't worry. Just so I can learn how to refute it. Anywho, what is your opinion on that? I know you go to a Catholic school, but do you honestly believe in God? You said so yourself your biology teacher made you believe in evolution haha.

Haha, yes I believe in God, but I'm not Catholic.

I don't really believe in the point of a Church. To me, God is a very personal thing. Religiously, you could call me a Jeffersonian Deist :). I believe that God does not have a part in politics, though.

My bio teacher brainwashes us alot. But I believe in evolution even before that.