Nintendo Revolutions Controller, Lets check it out.. Options

[sadolakced acid]

^ thanks for your wonderful contribution. now please read the thread.

[AngryBaby]

its like a "handicap" controller or somethin.

LMAO! you gotta admit that was pretty funny

[jEllyBeaNs]

^  thanks for your wonderful contribution.  now please read the thread.

ahh your welcome, and thank you for lovely lil comment. ohh and by the way i read the thread, so thanK you very much.

[EddieV]

^ I made this topic for people to put their thoughts, alright I know you kind of did, but that's just pushing it.

[jEllyBeaNs]

^^what are you talking about? :/

[KrunkMuzik]

Wow, is this little controller REALLY that serious? I see all these LOOOONNG replies for one SMALL controller. By the way, Thanks!

[ThunderEvermore]

"It's a brilliant controller, and as usual we can credit Nintendo with being innovative and neat and fresh and fun. They continue to pioneer in our industry…they make some of the best games in the industry…and we look forward to partnering with them."

From EA. Without a doubt the BIGGEST third party developer in the industry.

Theyre already underway on developing for the Revo with the newly released alpha development kits.

"This [controller] isn't just targeted to new users, but was also designed with making good past games more easily played. First person shooters should be more easily played. So, we came up with the idea for a nunchuk attachment. You move around in 3D using your left hand and point with your right hand,"

From Shigeru Miyamoto, the Godfather of Gaming, explaining the simplicities of the Revo controller.

He later stated;

"Also," Miyamoto added before exiting the stage, "there are still secrets to this controller, and these will be revealed next year."

Any ideas as to what these left secrets are?

[AngryBaby]

okay, you dont like sony correct? but i bet Sony can give you a write up on how great their stuff is also. but does that mean you'll agree with them or be convinced? no.

and hey, you wonder how i can imagine the rev controller being awkward.

same way we know that the ps3 controller will be awkward. but its funny, im willing to bet if a kid came on and said how the ps3 controller sucks, you guys wouldnt say anything in its defense.

its funny, that you guys :glares at kryo: can constantly judge ps3's controller in the past, but if i talk about this controller all hell breaks lose.

remember this kryo?
http://ps3banana.ytmnd.com/

it was sad how you were totally manipulating people to hate ps3 in that thread. it was almost...a little ridiculous

one kid said this

i personally like the controller design, looks unique. the bottom will probably not be totally smooth so it wont just slip right out.
as for the price, sony wants you to "work more hours"
but seriously, dont u have enough time to get money? from here to spring is pretty much half a year, and even at 5 bucks a day you should have enough for it when it comes out

and heres what you said directed at his comment

The controller looks awful. The segmented arrows aren't even put on straight.

i mean look what you did with the young man's opinion that it was unique.
i swear every few posts people would make in between you were trying to come up with something to say to try to manipulate people into hating it. it was quite funny i must say

wow, you had the GALL to call me a "fanboy"?

[sadolakced acid]

^ i believe the word your looking for is gall, not gull.

[ThunderEvermore]

Haha.

I believe in another seperate post Kryo later pointed out a new pic where the PS3 controller was against a man's hand and it looked much smaller than previously imagined. He had said that it might just be a bit comfortable yet.

At any rate, he was talking about the looks, not the actual comfort of the controller.


Anyway, I made a point earlier that Shigeru Miyamoto had said that there is still one big secret yet to be out on the Revo controller. Anyone have any thoughts as to what it may be?

[*kryogenix*]

okay, you dont like sony correct? but i bet Sony can give you a write up on how great their stuff is also. but does that mean you'll agree with them or be convinced? no.

and hey, you wonder how i can imagine the rev controller being awkward.

same way we know that the ps3 controller will be awkward. but its funny, im willing to bet if a kid came on and said how the ps3 controller sucks, you guys wouldnt say anything in its defense.

its funny, that you guys :glares at kryo: can constantly judge ps3's controller in the past, but if i talk about this controller all hell breaks lose.

remember this kryo?
http://ps3banana.ytmnd.com/

it was sad how you were totally manipulating people to hate ps3 in that thread. it was almost...a little ridiculous

Your point? The Rev controller looks like a nunchaku (I believe Nintendo even refers to it as a nunchaku), the 360 controller resembles the Dreamcast controller. The PS3 controller resembles a banana/boomerang. The controller is a departure (IMO for the worse) from the dual shock. Although, I do believe I also mentioned somewhere that Sony kinda had its hands tied because of the lawsuit involving the dualshock's patents, so the move was understandable, but you failed to mention that, didn't you? Also, you forget to mention the picture I posted with a guy actually holding it.

one kid said this
and heres what you said directed at his comment

i mean look what you did with the young man's opinion that it was unique.
i swear every few posts people would make in between you were trying to come up with something to say to try to manipulate people into hating it. it was quite funny i must say

How can you not be alarmed when a controller's arrows aren't even on straight?



Usually up arrows point up, not up and to the right.

wow, you had the GALL to call me a "fanboy"?

You missed the point of that image. The point was to illustrate that Nintendo innovates, the competition builds off of it. Nintendo's innovations (you call them gimmicks) tend to be initially scoffed at by their competition, then eventually incorporated into the competition's design. In fact, Sony is already working on a wand for use with the EyeToy, similar to the Revolution controller.

[sadolakced acid]

Anyway, I made a point earlier that Shigeru Miyamoto had said that there is still one big secret yet to be out on the Revo controller. Anyone have any thoughts as to what it may be?

the secret? i'll bet you it has a camera in the tip.

or something like that.

[*kryogenix*]

I heard a rumor it's an HD visor.

[ThunderEvermore]

Wouldnt it be cool if there was like a built in memory chip that you could save files and stuff on and take it to your friends place and itll immediately load on his Revo?

Of course memory cards work for that too, but I know alot of people who have their special controller.

Who knows what else it could be.

[AngryBaby]

How can you not be alarmed when a controller's arrows aren't even on straight?



Usually up arrows point up, not up and to the right.

to be honest...i never thought that was the final controller. so i didnt really care, it just seemed like a show thing. especially when the first time they showed what it looked like in a magazine i read it said the controller wasnt final. and how are you're gripes about the buttons any different from my concerns on where the rev buttons were placed?

Although, I do believe I also mentioned somewhere that Sony kinda had its hands tied because of the lawsuit involving the dualshock's patents, so the move was understandable, but you failed to mention that, didn't you?

maybe its just me, but that statement didnt strike me as something meant well for Sony, it struck me more as a statement leading to the accusation that you think sony steals ideas...
and if you would be so kind, can you provide with some official information on this "patent" situation? because i dont understand why any company would wait until now to file a lawsuit about it....

The point was to illustrate that Nintendo innovates, the competition builds off of it. Nintendo's innovations (you call them gimmicks) tend to be initially scoffed at by their competition, then eventually incorporated into the competition's design. In fact, Sony is already working on a wand for use with the EyeToy, similar to the Revolution controller.

yeah but there's a difference, the wand is for the EYE TOY, Sony's not gonna try to make it their primary controller. plus, eye toy isnt the most popular thing in the world so i doubt it'll be a big deal. and about these innovations...hmm, the innovations is why you think the rev controller is soooo cool, why you think nintendo is better than the others, well, i think the best example i could use for this is...the DS and PSP comparison. like i said before i own both, and though the DS may be oh so "innovative" doesnt mean its any more fun than my PSP. to be honest, i have a little more fun with the PSP. why? because of the games right now i own metal gear acid,liberty city stories, and THUG remix 2 for PSP. and maybe its just me but i have more fun playing GTA than i do nintendogs, no matter how innovative nintendogs may be. again like i said before, i think nintendo is too focused on HOW you play the games than the games themselves, a touch screen can only do so much for me, and only work so well with some games. i own mario kart DS, Super Mario DS(fave)and nintendogs , all for DS. those games are still fun, but i just like my GTA and Metal Gear better... my point is, just because something is more innovative, doesnt necessarily mean it will be more fun

[*kryogenix*]

to be honest...i never thought that was the final controller. so i didnt really care, it just seemed like a show thing. especially when the first time they showed what it looked like in a magazine i read it said the controller wasnt final. and how are you're gripes about the buttons any different from my concerns on where the rev buttons were placed?

I also made post saying that it was announced that it was in fact the final design.

Your complaints about the Revolution buttons can easily be overcome on the developer's side of things. Simply don't require two hard to reach buttons to be pressed at the same time.

Meanwhile, the digital buttons on the PS3 controller aren't even on straight, and there is nothing anyone (but Sony) can do about it.

maybe its just me, but that statement didnt strike me as something meant well for Sony, it struck me more as a statement leading to the accusation that you think sony steals ideas...
and if you would be so kind, can you provide with some official information on this "patent" situation? because i dont understand why any company would wait until now to file a lawsuit about it....

I was saying, in Sony's defense, they have a reason not to simply make a new Dualshock, since they were sued over it. But since you mention it, yeah, they do copy ideas.

I posted the lawsuit a while ago, and the link is also dated to earlier this year:

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000727037940/

  yeah but there's a difference, the wand is for the EYE TOY, Sony's not gonna try to make it their primary controller. plus, eye toy isnt the most popular thing in the world so i doubt it'll be a big deal.

Doesn't change the fact that the Revolution controller influenced it. And the Eye Toy was quite successful, it is one of the things I praise Sony for making. However, there will be limitations with the EyeToy wand that won't be found in the Rev Controller.

and about these innovations...hmm, the innovations is why you think the rev controller is soooo cool, why you think nintendo is better than the others, well, i think the best example i could use for this is...the DS and PSP comparison. like i said before i own both, and though the DS may be oh so "innovative" doesnt mean its any more fun than my PSP. to be honest, i have a little more fun with the PSP. why? because of the games right now i own metal gear acid,liberty city stories, and THUG remix 2 for PSP. and maybe its just me but i have more fun playing GTA than i do nintendogs, no matter how innovative nintendogs may be.

That's my problem with the PSP. The controls are usually terribly. The analog nub just doesn't cut it, and the digital arrows are still the same crappy segmented buttons that all the playstations have used. Most PSP games just feel like PS1/2 games with poorer controls.

Games (and how they are controlled) are the reason why the DS is outselling the PSP. DS Brain Training (a game geared towards adults) was a huge hit in Japan, and it propelled the DS to huge sales. Jump Super Stars and Nintendogs also helped big time.

again like i said before, i think nintendo is too focused on HOW you play the games than the games themselves, a touch screen can only do so much for me, and only work so well with some games. i own mario kart DS, Super Mario DS(fave)and nintendogs , all for DS. those games are still fun, but i just like my GTA and Metal Gear better... my point is, just because something is more innovative, doesnt necessarily mean it will be more fun

I reccomend you try out Meteos or Kirby Canvas curse. They do a good job of using the DS's controls to make the game fun. Advanced Wars Dual Strike is a good one too. IMO, Metal Gear was disappointing and I haven't played GTA yet, so I will reserve judgement.

[vash1530]

gta is relly fun on the psp (myfriends were playing it all during the xboxlaunch)
u cant really get mad at anyone for doing sumthing influenced by another idea in the buisness. This is a copycat world, where ppl do what looks like it will

[ThunderEvermore]

Ok, Im sorry, but Metal Gear as a card game? I could never do that.

[vash1530]

yea im skeptical on that game too tho the "solid eye" sounds interesting. it's completely ugly tho.

[*kryogenix*]

Let's get back on topic...

[ThunderEvermore]

Let's get back on topic...

Right.

At any rate. I think we've pretty much exasperated the possibilities of this new innovation. We've all gotten our ideas out as to what itll do for Nintendo. But I think one big question we're missing is what games we're looking forward to, and what innovations do we think can be added to existing franchises to become as Revolutionized as the controller?

[sadolakced acid]

i think the controller should be shaped less remote like. make it more molded so it melds more to your hand. with a swivel top, like those black and decker electric screwdrivers.

that way, you can easily make it into a light gun or a sword.

[uLoVeMikeRoch]

But the ps3, as ugly and uninnovative as it may be, is designed for comfort and easr of use. You have a less chance of developing a hand disorder or something like that.

But anyways, yeah. Umm.
Like everyone else now. I wanna see some games using this.
Except that Nintendo has this problem where they think that people are out to get them, and keep their ideas so secret and heavily guarded. It's sorta stupid. I mean, i could understand secrecy. But I think nintendo goes over the line somewhere.

In anycase, I wanna see some games! With it!

ALso, someguy made a sort of duplicate Rev controller. Using a 1 handed ps1 controller, and something else. He programmed it to play Half-life 2. I have to find it somewhere.

[ThunderEvermore]

i think the controller should be shaped less remote like.  make it more molded so it melds more to your hand.  with a swivel top, like those black and decker electric screwdrivers.

that way, you can easily make it into a light gun or a sword.

Its really hard to put a D-Pad on that though.

[vash1530]

i can't imagine a design featuring a joystick woeking on the main rev. controller. btw don't you think we shud give it sum kind of nickname.